We Need To Make A Stand

[NCArcher]

Never use a petard near your hoist.

I'll admit I had to look that up. But good advice none the less Cliff.
Oh and in my opinion FC is spouting a lot rubbish but if you don't agree with him then ignore him. He certainly knows how to bait a hook though

[woodbe]

A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.

This raises an interesting point. Who decides who the bigots are, and when does that person then fit the description of being a bigot themselves?

What I'm getting at is, bitingmidge suggests some of the detractors of FC's initial post are bigots, but in so doing he himself displays a level of intolerance towards those detractors. (no midge, I'm not calling you a bigot )

Ultimately, we are all potential bigots, even the most broad minded of us have a limit. At some point, the 'disagree but respect your right' position runs out of legs...

woodbe.

[Grunt]

On the other hand, the bigotry shown by many of the detractors on this thread never ceases to amaze me.

I'm not a bigot. I hate everyone equally.

[Bleedin Thumb]

Hence my suggestion ...we should blow up all bigots!

The only downside of this is that it would leave only non bigots alive....

They could sit around and think pure thoughts... and everything would be just peachy.................sounds like heaven.

Theres no heated discussions, no differences of opinion in heaven.... they must give you a frontal lobotomy as you're passing through those gates

[Gra]

Hence my suggestion ...we should blow up all bigots!

Its official BT is Ted Bullpit.....

[Bleedin Thumb]

I thought it was a Monty python line............don't tell me I've been quoting Ted Bullpit!!!!!!!!!

[bitingmidge]

When did you ever see a woman on Norm Abrams' program? It's shocking, and something ought to be done about it. We have been silent for far too long.

Rocker,

The fact that you've never seen a woman on Norm's Show doesn't mean they aren't there doing valuble jobs behind the scenes.

Who do you think brings the beer, and cleans up afterwards??

P

[Gra]

I thought it was a Monty python line............don't tell me I've been quoting Ted Bullpit!!!!!!!!!

Ted Bullpits favorite say was "Some should blow XXX up" XXX being whatever annoyed him usually the nuns up the road or the kids from the catholic school.

[Cliff Rogers]

We could also hoist them with a petard but I used them all up & it is done to death anyway..... What's for lunch?

[MurrayD99]

We could also hoist them with a petard but I used them all up & it is done to death anyway..... What's for lunch?

You can have lunch tomorrow.... if you are out of stock on petards, someone on your staff should contact the manufacturers (in Taiwan?) and get an urgent requisition actioned

[Sebastiaan56]

Hence my suggestion ...we should blow up all bigots!

I agree "Kill all extremists!" But lets leave a few bigots around, its fun playing the name and shame game.

And dont worry Funky, there will come a time and then they'll all know. brew ha ha ha ha.... And as John Belushi said "well... me and the Lord... We've got this thing going..."

Sebastiaan

[Brown Dog]

Isn't taking drugs frowned upon by all religions? I think someone forgot to tell FC shhhhhh

Not all religions

Some actually get preferential treatment in relation to the use of drugs

US supreme court ruled that a New mexican church should be exempt from the law, which everyone else has to obey.
http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2005/2005_04_1084/

something I didnt know before reading Dawkins

I didn't say debate was a waste of energy, just this one. Besides, it's against the rules

I disagree this debate is a waste of energy. The above info is one example of why I think this is so.

IMO religion gets a little to much quiet respect. Whats wrong with asking questions ? and debating the answers you are given ?

I also dont see how respectful debate is against the rules.

you will not use this Bulletin Board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law

It is pointless to debate with someone about whether or not their invisible friend is real. All the logic and science in the world wont help you. Their belief hinges upon their faith that he exists despite all evidence to the contrary, so it is an argument that cannot be won, because there is no way you can prove that he does not exist.

why is it pointless ?...Your right there is no conclusive proof that a creationist God does not exist, any scientist will agree...based on scientific evidence. However the scientific evidence that is available suggests that the case for evolution is a lot more probable. That is worth debating I think, especially imagining what the consequences would be if every part of daily life was infiltrated by religion . As an atheist I could imagine I personally would be in a bit of trouble if that were to ever happen. While Europe (and you could maybe include Australia) is becoming incresingly secular, You only need to look at the US or the middle east to see examples of how pervasive and powerful a force religion is.

Debate raises consciousness and I think that that fact means it is never a waste of energy.

cheers
BD

[Bleedin Thumb]

We could also hoist them with a petard but I used them all up & it is done to death anyway..... What's for lunch?

You know what you can do with your ....... petard don't you cliff?

No Gra, the reference I was alluding to was from the monty python scene about the peoples liberation front/ the front for the peoples liberation etc etc I cant even remember if it was a movie or off the TV show...come on Cliff make yourself useful and refresh my memory.

[AlexS]

FC, I may disagree intensely with your opinions, but I will fight to the death (or morning tea, whichever comes first) for your right to expose yourself to ridicule and merciless p!ss-taking by posting them in a woodwork forum.

(The above is not true, but it sounds reasonable.)

[silentC]

why is it pointless ?

It's pointless because you are never going to convince a believer that they are wrong to believe. You may come to realise that one day, or you may just go banging on and on about it. Up to you, but I reckon it's a waste of energy.

I also dont see how respectful debate is against the rules.

Discussing religion on this forum is frowned upon, as you will no doubt find out if this keeps going much longer.

Edit: And by the way, as an agnostic, I find your atheist stance every bit as illogical as Funky Chicken's. So there you go