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3rd February 2006, 09:22 AM #1
Connecting the earth?
My circuit breaker box is internal.
It has 6 circuit breakers plus main power switch and safety switch.
How should the earth wire be connected for each circuit breaker?
I have the main earth wire connected to the neutral bus bar [no problems].
Each earth wire for the circuit breakers are connected to the main earth wire by revealing a section of the main earth bare.
So about 60mm back from the bus bar the insulation is removed for around 30mm on the earth wire.
They are connected with glue, not solder.
Off course all the wires are covered with insulation tape.
Is this standard installation?
Yes the sparkie who installed it said its normal, now I'm in the bush its not that easy to have someone check someone elses work.
Thanks
Pulpo
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3rd February 2006, 10:12 AM #2
Originally Posted by Pulpo
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3rd February 2006, 10:22 AM #3
Is the glue a conductive solder type epoxy?
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3rd February 2006, 02:13 PM #4
All the earths should really be either soldered to the main earth or connected to a bolt either with solderless lugs or crimped lugs to which the main earth should be connected to.
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3rd February 2006, 03:27 PM #5
I'm sure it sounds normal, technically, though the MEN link is what connects form the main neutral bar to the neutral bar. The main neutral can be a soldered connection also.
Cheers
Pulse
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3rd February 2006, 06:49 PM #6
Glue! Get the soldering iron out, smartish!
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3rd February 2006, 07:02 PM #7
Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon
Also, wont solder melt if the wires get hot?
Al :confused:
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3rd February 2006, 07:17 PM #8
But, the Earth is, like, interconnected, man..you know, the web of life and...
Oh.
Peace,
Rusty.The perfect is the enemy of the good.
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6th February 2006, 02:03 PM #9
I am not a sparky but I am fairly sure that protective earths (which is what is used for power cabling) must not be soldered but be a mechanical joint/compression/friction joint. As ozwinner said, if there is a fault and the wires get hot, you don't want the solder to melt and joint fail.
There must be a sparky out there who answer this properly.....
Jon
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6th February 2006, 02:29 PM #10
glue and/or solder are insufficient.
use stainless steel bolts or copper with well fitted nut and bolt connections. A "positive", permanent and non corrosive connection is required especially if you are exposed to the elements.
do not fark about with earths - rules and regs are quite stringent expecially as earth leakage and trip fuses rely on good earths to protect you (and your famil) from being zapped.
get a sparkie to redo the work and claim the bill back from the guy who "Glued" <scoff!!> the original connections.
friggin butchers! if the work is substadard you should report the bastard!! Glue my @rse!Zed
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6th February 2006, 02:35 PM #11
Originally Posted by Jon
Climbing down from soapbox now
Here it is from AS/NZS3000:2000
Rule 5.6.4.1
In every electrical installation a main earthing terminal/connection or bar shall be provided at the main switchboard and the following conductors shall be connected to it:
a) Main earthing conductor
b) MEN Link
c) Protective earthing conductors
d) Functional earthing conductors if required
e) Equipotential earthing conductors
NOTE: A main earthing terminal/connection may be a soldered connection.
So there it is nothing about glueing conductors.
Melting point of solder is about 180C, domestic cable insulation about 75C (V75 rated) so your cable is more likely to burn you house down than any solder connection. Hopefully if you've wired it yourself I can be close enough to cook some marshmellows.
Cheers
Reg
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6th February 2006, 02:36 PM #12
Listen to Zed, don't monkey around with earths.
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6th February 2006, 02:53 PM #13
Originally Posted by Zed
Where are you going with that glue gun??:eek:
Al
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6th February 2006, 02:54 PM #14
This is out of AS3000.
I told you this earlier now do you believe me.
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6th February 2006, 03:07 PM #15
Originally Posted by ozwinner
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