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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer View Post
    The reference to "sheilas" came from Andy Mac's reply...
    Ah, got it, missed that.

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    I spend more of my awake hours in my workshop than I do in my bedroom or my kitchen. Some people would think it was inappropriate to bang nails in the walls of the bedroom to hang up your clothes, same with nails in the kitchen wall to hang your pots and pans.
    Interesting perspective. I must admit I started this a little hot under the collar feeling a bit snubbed about the nail issue - but you've given me something else to think about. I remember John Lucas (I think) the guy that runs the Woodshopdemos site always says he builds his workshop stuff to look good as well as be good 'cos its his workshop and he wants it to look good. Might have to adjust my attitude.

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    If you are really clever, you could convince me to use nails and then offer to take my drawers and shelves for free!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer View Post
    Chumley,

    I am agreeing and disagreeing with you but nothing for you to take to heart.

    The reference to "sheilas" came from Andy Mac's reply where he said ...
    Which is his opinion.

    Thanks for starting the great thread.
    Hi WB,
    You misinterpreted me completely! I agree with the idea of making your workshop a comfortable and homely place- 100%. I don't see that act as feminine in the least! I agree with him about nails too, I just have a bit of an issue with the word he used, that's all! 'Nesting' is a word women tend to use when they are heavily pregnant, and usually means chucking all the blokes stuff out and filling the place full of soft furnishings and nursery rhyme pictures! And as I said, if the word nesting is used in a workshop, it has a completely different meaning, which is fitting a layout within a given space for minimum waste.

    And yes I agree its a good thread, a comparison of magazines available in Australia.

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    You misinterpreted me completely!
    I did and I apologise.
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    'Nesting' is a word women tend to use when they are heavily pregnant, and usually means chucking all the blokes stuff out and filling the place full of soft furnishings and nursery rhyme pictures!
    I dont reckon there is anything wrong with the term "nesting". Yes it has slightly girly connotations....but gender issues aside it still describes how I feel about being in the shed (which is what I thought the article mentioned was about)

    One definition of a nest is : a snug retreat, or resting place

    ....so the act of nesting is to create such a place. I for one feel much more snug and restful in my shed then I would in a room full of soft furnishings and nursery ryhme pictures .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wood Borer View Post
    I did and I apologise.
    No probs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Dog View Post
    I dont reckon there is anything wrong with the term "nesting". Yes it has slightly girly connotations....but gender issues aside it still describes how I feel about being in the shed (which is what I thought the article mentioned was about)

    One definition of a nest is : a snug retreat, or resting place

    ....so the act of nesting is to create such a place. I for one feel much more snug and restful in my shed then I would in a room full of soft furnishings and nursery ryhme pictures .

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    A snug retreat it is, and I'll reluctantly admit I can't come up with a better term than... nesting

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    I misread the title of the AWR article at first - I was thiking of "nesting" in the sense of those Russian nesting dolls and the article was going to be about clever ways of storing stuff so that things take up less space in the workshop...

    I reckon that since the activity that we are engaged in is frequently characterised as retreating into our own (usually male) domain ("hiding in his cave", is the usual description I hear), it is not quite right to describe it using a prototypically female term. What we are talking about is making the space comfortable to the user for the use (s)he is going to make of it. I am still looking for the right word, but I don't think "nesting" is it. In my case, the image I have is more like the tattered comfort of a battered jumper and a confortable armchair....
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    'Nesting', a feminine tendency? Personally everything in my shed is either hung off a nail or ... um... cluttering up the workbench . Although there was a chicken nesting in there the other day....

    I like both mags. Woodsmith explains things clearly, lets me get my head around things by providing simple diagrams (I need them), and gives me things I can do, while AWR makes me stretch my brain a little more and gives me inspiration for the future, when I'm more practiced. I like what some have dismissed as the artiness of their designs. But it's lucky we all like different things, isn't it; life would be pretty dull otherwise.

    One more thing, though: I have really noticed the Americanisms in Woodsmith, in writing style, design style, timber suggestions and the fact that every second project requires a dado! American is fine, but if you are going to pretend to be Australian, then at least do a good job of it.
    "Look out! Mum's in the shed and she's got a hammer!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72 View Post
    AWW is the one who needs to pick their game up... its still got the 1970's amateurish magazine feel to it. But I still buy it anyway!

    I agree with you there

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    I prefer AWR, but I *could* be biased LOL
    How much wood could the woodchuck chuck if the woodchuck could chuck wood?

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    Hmmm I wonder why...
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    Beats me :P
    How much wood could the woodchuck chuck if the woodchuck could chuck wood?

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    What do you think of the tool reviews in AWR Dean?
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    Bloody first class mate! Best I have ever read
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    I reckon the guy who does the tool reviews at AWR should get out, he has no idea on what he is talking about
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