block survey ?

[dzcook]

ok just seeking some advice here
my block ( odd shaped ) corner block has no fences except for the boundary fence between nieghbours and i ( side neighbours none at rear) yesterday was working out where fences should be and found that block is even more odd shaped than i was thinking

appears that i mught have extra 10 to 15 mtrs of backyard the block measurements are shared fence 51 mts front 73 mts side fence 84mts rear 28mts as said odd shape

if take the one and only right angle off side fence the front fence on my block is on the front of hse ie no frt yard at all

if take verge measuremants and measure from kerd to front of where i think fence should be ( same distance as next door hse ) works out where the letterbox and water meter is then i appear to have long side fence cutting thru the middle of shed in back yard and ends in the middle of side st and shared fence ends up at a angle some 6 mts into my yard at (their ) back fence line so a real muddle


so what do u guys suggest
go to coucil and ask them what is going on ?
get it surveyed and see where everything ends up and then go to coucil ?
sell up fast and get rid of it ?

am at stage dont knoiw what to do hope you blokes can get what i am talking about and any suggestions would be good shed in backyard would hate to have to move it and "new " land at rear is full of rubbish and rocks i thought my block finished level with back wall of shed but now appears not to
anyway thks for any input

[echnidna]

the only safe way is to get it surveyed

[bsrlee]

Wot echidna says. And make sure the surveyor is fully licenced & insured, so if he stuffs up you have some comeback with his professional insurance - don't go the cheapo 'I can do if for a slab on me days orf' deal.

[Carry Pine]

You should be able to get a plan from council that will have some sort of reference mark somewhere near your property. Go from there and get a better idea for yourself before bringing in the big guns.

Carry Pine

[Bleedin Thumb]

In my experience the Councils plans aren't that accurate. I'd go the surveyor but beware that once you know where the boundaries and you sell the property on the basis of an old survey...the purchaser could have a comeback.
How long have you had the property? What survey plan was the property purchased under? Have you any comeback (if you have a problem) to the old vendor?

[masoth]

I'm assuming you have recently purchased the land so amongst the paperwork you should have been supplied a copy of the land title - now this may, or may not, include a diagram of the land. There should be, at least, a description with angles, dimensions, compass bearings, and any easements.
With that iinformation finding the survey pegs should be a bit easier - if you don't have this you'd be foolish to erect ANY building until a licensed surveyor has measured-up and pegged out the block according to the sub-division plan which should be available from your local council, or the Land Titles Office.

soth

[dzcook]

bought the land about 2 yrs ago with house on it

only got a lot plan in the paper work which shows plan of block ,length of fence lines and thats all no compass bearings etc

absolutely no survey pegs anywhere and no mention of any landmarks to take bearings from

have managed to get a 1942 block map that dose have compass bearings on so will look at that first only thing is with taht , is block is measured in something other than feet as the 86 mt side is 400 and something long

but will still be able to use the compass bearing to work it out ?


think part of problem is that the maps show side street as angleing off main rd straight but the road thats there now has a nice curve in it that seems to be taking it very close to where the back fence should be


really think i will just get a rough idea of where its all supposed to be and then will go to the coucil and see what they say

[pawnhead]

I built an extension on my sister's house and since I was building right up to the minimum 900mm side boundary set back, I got a surveyor in before I turned a shovel. It turned out that the opposite neighbour had pinched a foot of my sister's land, and she had pinched a foot from the neighbour where the extension was going. The sub division dated back to when there were cows roaming in a paddock.
So after a six month delay, with the surveyor trying to get the boundary formalized, it turned out that everyone had 'squatters rights' because the fences had been up for so long and no one had complained. So the moral of the story is, if someone puts a fence up on your boundary, you'd better check it or you might be losing a bit of land, never to be returned.

It also reminds me of a story that my old man once told me about a block in the city. I don't know if someone told him a tall tale, or if he read it somewhere.
Anyway, a bloke started putting up a building right on his boundary, and his neighbour came along with a surveyor and told the bloke that he'd pinched an inch of his land and he wanted it back. The first bloke tried to buy the inch of land off him for a reasonable price, but the guy was an 4$$hole and wanted a fortune for it because he knew it would cost the first bloke a fortune to tear down what he'd already built. The first bloke wouldn't pay, so he just tore down what he'd built and started again. But here's the clever bit. He moved it back two inches, not just one.
So when the second bloke came along and slapped up his building hard against the first bloke's building, he ended up having to pay the first bloke a fortune to buy an inch of his land.
Even after paying to demolish and re-build, the first bloke made a profit out of his 4$$hole neighbour.

It might be BS, but it's a good 'karma' yarn anyway.

[ausdesign]

dzcook the measurements will be in links - 1 link = 201.168mm
by all means check it out yourself as much as possible but at the end of the day get a professional survey done.
murpheys 5th law [translated] states - if you do nothing you will get bitten on bum !

the council will most likely will not be of assistance. they would normally come back to you suggesting you to get a survey.

[Darcy888]

Anyone know how much a boundary survey would cost for an average suburban block (straight lines and no easements)?

[ptc]

cost me $850.00.

[Darcy888]

cost me $850.00.

Really that much? Thought it would only be half a day's work at most for a suburban block.

[Tools]

It would only be half a days work, but they need an assistant, and need to do title searches etc as well.

Tools

[dzcook]

well i think that the new neighbours have started survey their block anyway as i have had a survey post found in the corner of my yard that was about 4inches underground and it wasnt me digging it up is a round metal plague says something like offical survey peg and is in line with where i thought that my front fence should be

thing is they havent said anything about starting a survey for their fences and never said taht they where looking either but the one peg really dosent help me that much as none of my corners are square anyway but dose give me a start

Now when i start the fences should my fence post go alongside the survey peg or inside of it or where ?

[Cliff Rogers]

cost me $850.00.

Cost us about $400 on a small block in Cairns 10 years ago.