Nanny-state Safety

[mark5009]

I guess this is simply a vent. I recently bought a nice shiny new dust extractor and, like most powered tools, it has one of those no-start-til-power-on safety switches. On a dust extractor? Really? So rather than being able to start the machine remotely, I have to wander over and power it up from the machine. And this is for my benefit? Wow!

Anyone have any thoughts about bypassing these devices? It is a Jet DC-1200 and the control box doesn't really want to open... sigh

.. mark.

[DavidG]

Keeping with the nanny state and the fact people sue........

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[BobL]

If you hunt around you will see this topic has been "Done to death" and MANY simple solutions are available

A recent thread on this topic is this one; https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/r...tractor-225741

The safety switch is there for a real purpose - check out this post
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/r...41#post2123493

[old1955]

Welcome to the forum Mark.

[Bohdan]

A simple solution is to simply jamb the start button down. It will then power up as soon as the power comes on.

But keep in mind that on one day in the future that, due to a power failure possibly caused by a faulty power point, you will open the collector to see why it stopped. You might notice some rubbish in the fan blades and as you reach in to remove it, the power comes back on.

[mark5009]

If you hunt around you will see this topic has been "Done to death" and MANY simple solutions are available

Thanks, Bob. From a quick search, you have done this a few times, haven't you? )

As I mentioned at the start, more of a rant than anything else. Not the best way to start posting here, but very millennial of me (except I'm older and should know better). So it goes...

All the best!

[mark5009]

Thank you!

[mark5009]

A simple solution is to simply jamb the start button down. It will then power up as soon as the power comes on. But keep in mind ...

Yup. I read that thread BobL posted and the nastiness that can ensue from lack of attention. Then, as woodworkers, a lot of what we do is risk management. Start spinning up a 19mm straight router bit and present it some spotted gum and life can get very interesting very quickly. And then there are all the dangers of using the table saw. For me, the duct collector and its enclosed blade is one of the less dangerous pieces of kit in my shop. I'd put it below the chisels, and knocking stuff off the rafters, but that's me )

Thanks for the replying!

[doug3030]

If you are turning your DE on just before the dust-making activity, it is too late. If you are turning your DE off as soon as you have finished making dust it is too early.

Turning it on earlier helps get the air flowing into the ports to help catch the invisible dust and leaving it on after helps collect any that did not go in straight away.

The inconvenience of having to walk to the DE can be a good thing by encouraging you to leave it running longer.

[Mobyturns]

Keeping with the nanny state and the fact people sue........

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Why not add to the "

We strongly advise contacting a Licensed Tradeperson for all electrical work.

"A person who performs electrical work in Australia must have an electrical work licence authorising the work. Licensed electrical workers are required by law to ensure electrical work is performed in accordance with legislative requirements and any applicable codes of practice and technical standards. "

We have nanny state regulations for a reason, because idiots perform illegal DIY electrical work, illegally modify electrical installations, equipment and build extremely hazardous items such as fractal burners.

Rant over!

[Mobyturns]

Anyone have any thoughts about bypassing these devices?

No! For one its illegal and its unsafe!

[Spyro]

The safety switch is there for a real purpose - check out this post
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/r...41#post2123493

You'd think that people who push sticks against spinning blades with their bare hands for entertainment purposes on a daily basis would know to unplug a machine before sticking their hand in it. Honestly if they don't it's probably best you get them out of there immediately and introduce them to the fascinating hobby of collecting stamps.