So, this Sunday forum outage....

To Ueee and , judging from your reply to my posting, you seem to have a different belief than Neil about the colours being logged to be fixed. My angst is about basic readability, not just a cosmetic thing. If I can't read things I am not in a good position to contribute to the site as I am used to. I applaud the effort that goes into this website, and recognise that functional upgrades will be of benefit. But ignoring well documented knowledge about human visual acuity is unhelpful.
Over and out.

Couple of things for members to note, please....

1. The forums need to be re-indexed, this will take a long time due to all the posts (1.5 million), this should cure a few problems, E.g. searching, settings etc Hopefully it will be finished tomorrow.

2. The Administrators are flat knacker at the moment trying to smooth things over so please try to only comment on stuff that appears to be broken.

3. The colours we know about.

4. The colours we know about.

5. Performance will be slower until the indexing is done.

6. Pictures. The admins are working on tracking this one down and hope to have it sorted asap.

7. Some of the forums are still being sorted out e.g. Market Place.

8. I recommend that you do not tinker with your profile settings until the forums are stable. It is easier to fix one problem for everyone with the same settings.

9. I have merged four threads into one, please do not create new upgrade problem threads all over the place on the forums.

10. iSpy is not available, use Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums instead (save it to your favourites).

11. Did I mention we know about the colours? :D

12. Please have patience, all will be fixed in good time.

13. THE PROBLEMS WE KNOW ABOUT ARE LISTED HERE, ALONG WITH THEIR STATUS.

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Originally Posted by Chrism3

To Ueee and , judging from your reply to my posting, you seem to have a different belief than Neil about the colours being logged to be fixed. My angst is about basic readability, not just a cosmetic thing. If I can't read things I am not in a good position to contribute to the site as I am used to. I applaud the effort that goes into this website, and recognise that functional upgrades will be of benefit. But ignoring well documented knowledge about human visual acuity is unhelpful.
Over and out.

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Chrism3, I made the same observation in the admin area early this morning, as did another mod. If we can influence a change to make unread posts stand out better we will. I can tell you that for the amount of posts I read I find it a real nuisance and understand what you are saying.

For those who believe this is just a eye or monitor setting problem, think again. I use three monitors at home and it is difficult to see on all of them, as it is on my laptop and iPad.

For now though there are other tasks that need attention.

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Originally Posted by Sumbloak

Looks great. Much better than the old version (which frankly was not very appealing IMHO).

Anyway, bug report. The admins may have noticed already, but since I can't see a report about it..............

My options page in the UserCP gives a php error:

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Parse error:  syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /home/woodwork/public_html/profile.php(2083) : eval()'d code(98) : eval()'d code on line 1

Warning: fetch_template() calls should be replaced by the vB_Template class. Template name: option in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 4734

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Also, the Profile page appears to have some minor CSS glitches in FF15 on W7. Overlapping content. Both should be easy enough to fix. :)

ETA: Another thing is that people's avatars are not displaying in their posts. This may be related to the settings problem.

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These all seem to be sorted now. If you're really fussy, .rightcol .description could do with a bit more top margin (like another 0.5em or something). Have checked in FF, Chrome and IE9. Don't have Opera installed at the moment.

After a short while using the new forums, only one issue really stands out to me.

Why is the thread heading on the LHS of the page (first column), and the forum it is in hard up against the opposite side of the page? These two bits of information go together. I find myself scanning the extreme right hand column to find forums I am interested in, then trying to associate thread headings on the other side of the page with these. Maybe I'll have to get a much smaller screen.......

There has been a minor colour change to a blue font in the thread listings. I find it easier to read now, hopefully others will too.

Admins made the change in the middle of the night and will make some more changes as time permits. The indexing is close to completing so we hope things will speed up a bit soon.

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Originally Posted by Mr Brush

After a short while using the new forums, only one issue really stands out to me.

Why is the thread heading on the LHS of the page (first column), and the forum it is in hard up against the opposite side of the page? These two bits of information go together. I find myself scanning the extreme right hand column to find forums I am interested in, then trying to associate thread headings on the other side of the page with these. Maybe I'll have to get a much smaller screen.......

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Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.

I'm having a minor drama that I don't think anyone else has listed yet...

When I reply to posts (including this one!) I keep having to save the text into notepad first...because as soon as I hit the "Post Quick Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....

Maybe it's me, maybe my software (W7 & IE), I don't know....computer luddite.

I would like to offer my gratitude to the moderators who are trying to herd all the cats required to get this upgrade online and working.


Oh, has anyone mentioned the colours yet? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Chief Tiff

I'm having a minor drama that I don't think anyone else has listed yet...

When I reply to posts (including this one!) I keep having to save the text into notepad first...because as soon as I hit the "Post Quick Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....

Maybe it's me, maybe my software (W7 & IE), I don't know....computer luddite.

I would like to offer my gratitude to the moderators who are trying to herd all the cats required to get this upgrade online and working.


Oh, has anyone mentioned the colours yet? :rolleyes:

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Same here with drop outs on the reply attempts.....

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Originally Posted by Groggy

There has been a minor colour change to a blue font in the thread listings. I find it easier to read now, hopefully others will too.

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MUCH better. Thank you! :2tsup:

The dropouts are noted but should disappear when the indexing is complete. The server resources are stretched so give it another day please.

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Originally Posted by Groggy

Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.

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Greg, I think Mr Brush is referring to the New Posts page and I agree that the separation of the Thread Name (first column) and the Forum Name (last column) makes it hard to scan that page. It has already improved markedly with the change from Red text for the Forum Name to Blue text. Making the Blue text Bold for the forum name, same as the Thread Title would improve things even further.

Overall though I find all the pages now much easier to read and focus on what is important and what is not.

I'm sure we'll get there in time.:2tsup:

Has anyone noticed that the dog t**d pictures are upside down?

I hope that email notifications are high on the priority list, along with image thumbnails.
Or am I the only one not getting notifications?

This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.

I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version.

This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)

Cheers

Stinky.

Stinky the Tapatalk app problem has been captured already.

The other app that I use occasionally is forumRunner, it still works so you may want to try that.

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Originally Posted by Sir Stinkalot

This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.

I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version.

This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)

Cheers

Stinky.

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Stinky I use ForumRunner on both my iPhone and iPad and they are working, never did like Tapatalk.

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Originally Posted by Sir Stinkalot

This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version. This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)CheersStinky.

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I believe that the Tapatalk issue was mentioned in post #45. I am sure that it will be re-activated in the near future (at least I hope so)

Ok Thanks ...... I must have missed that it had previously been mentioned as I was trying to skip over all of the people complaining about the colours :q.

I have tried ForumRunner previously but had a preference for Tapatalk ...... just what you get used to I guess. Hopefully it can get running again in the future.

Cheers

Stinky.

I might mention that having entered a post today, on going back to edit it ... possibly changing to Go Advanced ... it lost all the pagination and became a no CR'd block of text. It wasn't a huge deal - had to put the CRs back in - but then it was only a few lines long.

Also you would have noted that some new and old posts have images visible, but most don't.
I know you are looking at it - the pictures - i just thought the inconsistency was interesting.

Paul

Also - contrary to a message I received from the software yesterday - I did create a post today with two vimeo videos in it ... mostly by accident.
They had two almost similar URLs (different by 1 number) ... but actually came up as two instances of the first video.
I only mention it 'cos you guys probably don't have enough to do, and messing around with the software is just what you wanted to do all week.
:duck: :D

Paul

Looks like the email notification part is working. Great work to all those concerned. Loving the new look and layout :)

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Originally Posted by sjt

Looks like the email notification part is working.

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It's not working here. Still getting zero subscription post notifications.

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Originally Posted by Groggy

Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.

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I'm in "New Posts", which is where I start out 99% of the time - easy to scan recent activity for items of interest in a variety of sub-forums.

The post heading is on the LHS of the screen, the sub-forum it relates to is as far away as possible on the extreme RHS of the screen. The sub-forum information should be right next to the post heading in the second column, so the eye goes from one directly to the other. Keep related information together for readability?

Obviously nobody else has this problem, so I'll just bugger off back to my corner.....

No Mr Brush, your not the only one, especially with no ispy and not being able to filter the new posts search. The other thing that would be really handy would be those whirlwind "mark as read" thingies on threads, so you could ignore a thread if it is of no interest to you and not have it come up in the new posts search.

In all honesty i though the upgrade was only going to be a behind the scenes thing, although i did think the thought of asking for suggestions may have been a good one, i guess the responses would be overwhelming in numbers and there would be so many opposite opinions that it wouldn't be worth while.

Sorry everyone, we have been rather busy behind the scenes. Updated issues list available here (grey is fixed). I'll put some of the more recent comments in the list later, maybe tomorrow, depending on what is happening..

The upgrade made it impossible to post quick responses with my phone (Nokia N900) and Opera Mobile.

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Originally Posted by engblom

The upgrade made it impossible to post quick responses with my phone (Nokia N900) and Opera Mobile.

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Have you tried today - recently?

Is there any setting to enable one to go straight into 'Advanced' when posting replies?

I haven't read all ten pages of this thread, so it may have already been covered, but I'm not receiving email notifications. I've done all the usual things like logging out, rebooting, checking my settings etc. but to no avail.

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Originally Posted by Woodwould

I haven't read all ten pages of this thread, so it may have already been covered, but I'm not receiving email notifications. I've done all the usual things like logging out, rebooting, checking my settings etc. but to no avail.

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We've got that one on the list

Some of the people some of the time..... :)

Did I miss something?? We used to be able to edit which Forums were shown in New Posts. I cannot seem to find this function any more.
Forget it, I think I have worked it out.:-

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Originally Posted by Humphrey9999

It's not working here. Still getting zero subscription post notifications.

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One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.

any idea how long before tapatalk is usable, or the mobile version is more user-friendly?

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Originally Posted by johnredl

any idea how long before tapatalk is usable, or the mobile version is more user-friendly?

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Have you tried ForumRunner

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Originally Posted by Big Shed

One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.

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If you are using FireFox you can use the Auto-refresh add-on which is great. I don't need to get email notifications by using this. For PMs you can enable the auto-popup window (a forum facility, not Firefox) so that you get a notification as soon as it happens (combined with auto-refresh). Very slick, as it turns the system into "push" rather than "pull" for notifications.

Other browsers may have the auto-refresh facility, I couldn't comment.

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Originally Posted by jmk89

We've got that one on the list

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Good-oh!

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Originally Posted by Big Shed

One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.

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This appears to be fixed now. I got a flurry of notifications this morning.

While I'm at it, just want to say thanks to Neil and the team for putting in all of this effort.
Must be a nightmare, but it's getting there.:2tsup:

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Originally Posted by Mulgabill

Did I miss something?? We used to be able to edit which Forums were shown in New Posts. I cannot seem to find this function any more.
Forget it, I think I have worked it out.:-

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Nope it did not work!
Under the old version we were able to go to UserCP/Options and edit the Forums we could view in New Posts. I have not been able to find it under this version. Is it still available?????:?

I've got a bit behind the curve here due to other stuff (150-160 spammers banned over the last few days by mods). I'll do my best to get an update done tonight. Please ensure you read THE KNOWN PROBLEM LIST before reporting new items. I've bolded the key words to help you find things faster.

EDIT - Mulgabill, the answer for now is no. It may came back later, I will ask for you.