Speeding fine

[bitingmidge]

Wow I had no idea there were so many members of this board that never speed, such angels, they must be the ones who drive in the middle lane on three lane highways with no-one on their left.:eek:

And I like that. It gives me a clear run at a Brazillion miles an hour in the express lane (the one they build on the left of all roads for little-willy people).

Strangely enough, I've driven in other countries where the lane in which one drives is not an indicator of penis size, and it all seems to work there.

Speeding is dangerous. Creating angst and anger in other drivers by travelling slowly in the inappropriate lane is apparently a good thing, it makes them go faster, miss seeing the radar traps through the red mist, then they learn their lesson! It's all about education.

Cheers,

P

[silentC]

I rarely speed. Well, I go with the 10 percent rule anyway. I have cruise control on the car. I dial up the speed I want and it's surprising how easy it is to sit back and do the speed limit (within the 10 percent rule) and not get impatient like I used to with my foot on the accelerator.

I don't sit in the middle lane, because hardly any of the roads I drive on have them. Infact hardly any of the roads here have more than one.

[Rossluck]

Of everything that has been said, this is the bit that worries me the most. Kinda sums up my impression of most 'professional drivers'. I used to drive up and down the Hume/Federal highway a lot. Used to see lots of 'gambling'.

My old man is always on about speed traps and revenue raising. Fact is you are supposed to be doing 60 when you get to the sign, not 100 metres after it. Good on 'em for pinging you, should happen more often.

What I was searching for on this forum was some realism and honesty, but a whole lot of apparently perfect people responded with rosary beads, technical manuals, and “tut tuts”.

By gambling I don’t mean that I purposely break the law in a contest with the police. Anyone who drives breaks the law every time they drive. If you think that you don’t, then hang on to those rosary beads because you’re going to need them. Any realistic traffic cop out there will agree that they could fine any motorist they followed for some technical breach of the road rules. It could be as simple a thing as a brief toot on the horn as you pass a friend, not coming to an absolute standstill at a stop sign, or not putting your indicator on the required distance from an intersection (a favourite of all of you perfect people, from my experience).

Anyone who tells me that they ALWAYS pass speed limit signs at the reduced and required speed is yanking their chain. This includes the police. Not only would this require the rigid conformity of a nun (why not extend the metaphor), but also the vacant dullness of a sheep.

Get real. You can’t all be better drivers than me. You can’t all comply rigidly with the law all of the time. Doesn’t some spirited, human aspect of your intellects advise you that you’re being pendantically and condescendingly sanctimonious when you know full well that a lot of what I said is right.

Imagine this scenario: you’re driving along at the speed limit, you round a bend, you see a 60KM roadworks sign, you completely back off the accelerator, look up away from the sign to assess the situation, and there is a police officer is waving you over. That quickly. Count through it: 101, 102, bang!. That, my perfect friends, is an unfair trap.

My argument is a simple one. Every now and then, say 2% or 3% of the time, the police around ity w:st=[/IMG]Brisbane ity>and the Gold Coast set a radar trap that tends towards the unfair. It happens. It is my contention that when it does occur, it is the type of things that attracts the (perhaps unfair) tag of revenue collecting.

[HappyHammer]

And I like that. It gives me a clear run at a Brazillion miles an hour in the express lane (the one they build on the left of all roads for little-willy people).

Strangely enough, I've driven in other countries where the lane in which one drives is not an indicator of penis size, and it all seems to work there.

Speeding is dangerous. Creating angst and anger in other drivers by travelling slowly in the inappropriate lane is apparently a good thing, it makes them go faster, miss seeing the radar traps through the red mist, then they learn their lesson! It's all about education.

Cheers,

P

Is this an admission to intentionally driving in the middle lane despite the keep left unless overtaking signs? Do you have these signs in QLD?

HH.

[Wongo]

Revenue raiser or not, the best way to beat it is stick with the speed limit. If you can’t read numbers then come to uncle Wongo and I will give you a free lesson.

[HappyHammer]

Sign me up Wongo

HH.

[Iain]

One of our heads of Traffic Police stated that fines for speeding were completely voluntary, if you do not want to contribute, it's your call.
I have two fines for speeding since 1967, and one was questionable given the speed limit signs location, but, I wore it and paid.
The other I was getting impatient as I overtook the dawdling unmarked car going up a hill

[bitingmidge]

Is this an admission to intentionally driving in the middle lane despite the keep left unless overtaking signs? Do you have these signs in QLD?

Not by me.

I thought I was clear: I intentionally drive in the left hand lane, because it's always vacant. The signs exist, but they don't seem to be understood.

A bit like the 60 signs apparently!

Rossluck, I don't think you are going to win! You didn't decelarate at all, (from 80 to 81 remember?) If you'd got down to 74 you may not have been booked, but you were doing more than 20 k's over the limit.

A quick stab on the brake would have done it for you, nothing dangerous, just a quick stab.....

Cheers,

P (who would have been done doing 68!)

[HappyHammer]

Good on yer Midge, the left lane is there for a reason and we should use it. This would prevent hot heads overtaking on the inside and adding to the dangers on our roads.

I think Ross luck was prolly doing 85 and slowed to 81 rather than sped up??

HH.

[Rossluck]

Rossluck, I don't think you are going to win! You didn't decelarate at all, (from 80 to 81 remember?) If you'd got down to 74 you may not have been booked, but you were doing more than 20 k's over the limit.

A quick stab on the brake would have done it for you, nothing dangerous, just a quick stab.....

Cheers,

You're right. I want more like you, and fewer sheep. The debate shouldn't have been about me, but the issue.

[Clinton1]

Ross,
I think the scenario you are describing is that you might have been doing 85, saw the sign, eased off the accellerator and were pinged at 81... taking a long time to drop speed due to the load you were carrying?

I'd still go with the penalty review board avenue, if you think the radar gun was located too close to the sign that changed the limit.
If the situation was unfair and outside the guidlines for radar guns, then at least by writing a letter you make the person in charge of setting that radar gun consider and write a reply... chewing up some of their time. If its all fair and above board, at least you'll get an answer that you can consider.
It might not get a result for you, but you will know why they set it the way they did.

[silentC]

Dunno about QLD but down here, they have these "Roadworks Ahead" signs about 500m from where the speed zones change so you can't use that excuse.

I'm not a sheep. I hate getting speeding fines. I paid $450 in a three month period about 15 years ago and swore off them. Have had two since then. Not bad going for me.

I also have a bit of an issue with truck drivers, but that is another story.

[Wongo]

Sign me up Wongo

HH.

No worries Hammer but you need to do some homework first.

Study these numbers

50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 110.

[silentC]

Scott, you forgot the most important number: 40. Look after our kids!

Hey, did you see that guy on the TV who put the blinking lights at the crossings outside the schools at Lugarno and around abouts? He's a friend of ours, used to work with my wife. He's the same guy with the humungous christmas lights display at Lugarno - gets on the TV every year. He has this obsession with blinking lights

[Rossluck]

Dunno about QLD but down here, they have these "Roadworks Ahead" signs about 500m from where the speed zones change so you can't use that excuse.

I'm not a sheep. I hate getting speeding fines. I paid $450 in a three month period about 15 years ago and swore off them. Have had two since then. Not bad going for me.

I also have a bit of an issue with truck drivers, but that is another story.

Sorry about the vitriol. I was a little stung by your "glad you were pinged" statement. It seemed to match a lot of the more personal and abusive responses to my initial post.

You're right, you are not a sheep. And I'm not a truck driver.