Joinery 'systems' get together (JSGT)

[crowie]

My oh my the craftsmanship or is that craftswomanship runs deep in the Flett family.... beautiful cabinet!

[DaveTTC]

Talented girl your number 3

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[ian]

Hi fletty

that cabinet is very similar to the Pier cabinet that is on my to build list.

I know it's a bit of an ask, but can you tell me the cabinet's dimensions, especially the sizes of the door styles and cabinet sides.
please

[fletty]

?.......can you tell me the cabinet's dimensions, especially the sizes of the door styles and cabinet sides.
please

No problem,
main case 355wide X 600 high X 140 deep
door outside dimension 310 wide X 470 high
door rails 40 wide
door stiles 40 wide
plan view of top 400 X 165
material Bunnings pine stained ( we think) Watyl traditional cedar

[Keith_1]

Very skilled D3

Regards

Keith

[Bushmiller]

D3....A chip off the old block?



Regards
Paul

[dropstix]

Whilst I do appreciate the comments and advice regarding jigs, and learned more about alternatives along the way, I've stumped for a Leigh D4R pro and a few extras and will post a few comments and pictures once I get some time on it. The versatility and width swayed me, although the cost does mean mince on toast for longer than I would like. I guess time will tell if it was worth it. If anyone has ever seen my comments about various products I've bought over the years, if it's good I'll sing its praises and if it's rubbish, well, I'm not shy about saying so.

[fletty]

For those who attended the gtg, you may remember that the Hegner finger jointer had fried its motor the day before it was due to be demonstrated and we got it going on the day by swapping one of the Trend trim routers from my Gifkin router table plate into the Hegner. PJP, the new owner of the Hegner, did his online homework which came to a successful conclusion today.
The router mounting for the Hegner requires a 43mm diameter boss at the 'sharp end' of the router and the Trend router has a 42mm boss so it was packed out with plastic tape on the day. An online search showed that the GMC 500w trim router also has a boss at the 'sharp' end and "looked a lot like the Trend router". He then found one on-line FOR $70 and received it yesterday.
A check across all 3 routers, showed that, other than a few cosmetic differences, all 3 were identical except for the unexplained 1 mm difference in boss diameter?
I installed the GMC router into the Hegner jig this morning (PJP had an operation on his hand on Monday ) and so the Hegner is now back in action AND I've got my Trend router back!
The relevant costs are;
Hegner replacement router $360 plus P+P ex Germany
Trend router via retailer $360
GMC router via online sale, $70
So, if you are looking for a second hand Hegner and find one that has fried its motor, you can get it going for as little as $70 by using a much more available Trend or GMC trim router.
PJP is probably in his workshop right now tearing off his bandages

fletty

[FenceFurniture]

Perhaps PJP could supply a link to the GMC for you to post here fletty? Was the GMC new?

[fletty]

Perhaps PJP could supply a link to the GMC for you to post here fletty? Was the GMC new?

I will check but I think it was a private sale via Gumtree, unused with the box still vacuum wrapped (!), ex Newcastle?

[fletty]

For those who were at the gtg, I have done some more work on the lock mitre joint jig. It got 'too hard' to align the router jig to the mitre slot on the router table so I cut a 'slider' from the same plywood as the jig, mounted a square fence and a toggle clamp....
IMG_6240.JPG
.... so that the workpiece is mounted on the slider and the edge between the slider and jig becomes the datum instead of the fragile machined edge once it is past the cutter. The results so far are encouraging...
IMG_6241.JPG

[DaveTTC]

That looks impressive

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

[Chris Parks]

The lock mitre gauge/jig invented by the same bloke who invented the IBox jig. Reputedly works on a very wide range of different bits including shapers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBMWj3-b4P4

[crowie]

Great video Chris,
After seeing the video and Alan's demonstration at the GTG; if I can't find a Hegner Finger Jointer, THIS is a good option, the router bit & that infinity gauge; thank you...
Cheers, Peter


PS - Would one purchase the Infinity Gauge and Router Bit from the Infinity website or in Australia from someone??

[fletty]

Thanks Chris, those Infinity bit alignment jigs were demo'd on the day and they are excellent for the set up but, the main problem with cutting the lock mitre joint is that, after the workpiece has passed the router bit, you are relying on a fragile 45degree knife edge running along the fence to maintain accuracy. This is particularly critical on the vertical cut where the operator has to push down against this knife deg which frequently results in the edge crushing, giving poor alignment and hence a poor joint? I was intrigued to watch the video especially when he said he got a good joint on his first try? I then burst out laughing, which is dangerous given the gastric bug I picked up yesterday , to see that the video edited out both the horizontal and vertical cuts as soon as the workpiece had gone past the cutter!
The jig I'm working on above means that the knife edge is not the datum 'surface' and results so far have been very good. HOWEVER, I'm still working on a simple way to do the same thing on the vertical cut.
The lock mitre joint has so many benefits that it is worth putting in a bit of work to also make it simple.