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  1. #16
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    I am with Midge #5 word for word.

    It is up to the parents to teach responsibility and the value of money.

    I am not in favour of using the money to buy the car either they wont have the same appreciation as if they slaved and saved themselves, contribute to the deposit or buy him some small thing ocassionally.

    Who ever heard of paying their bills and then getting the money refunded in full for no good reason.
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    I reckon 20-25% of his pay is the go, to cover room & board, meals, washing, ironing, etc. Not negotiable. Def. not to be given back to him. Encouraged to leave home & stand on own feet as soon as reasonably possible.

    As long as it is a cheaper & easier option to stay home the harder it will be for him to move out.

    I reckon the sooner adolescent kids learn the realities of life, ie. rent, cooking, washing, ironing, etc. the better adjusted they will be to the world out there.

    Good luck with SWMBO, though. Don't give up the good fight.


    Cheers...................Sean


    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    I reckon 20-25% of his pay is the go, to cover room & board, meals, washing, ironing, etc. Not negotiable.
    No washing, no ironing.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum View Post
    To all you tightasses i just hope when your in your 70`s+ and you need looking after your kids take half your pension to do it

    Perhaps if you have been a responsible parent, and taught the true value of money, responsibilty, and life, they will appreciate what you have done for them, and realise the pitance charged as board when a youngster only strengthend these values.

    Maybe then they will come to know the true cost of the sacrifices made willingly for them when
    m they were growing up, and will do all they can to ensure you dotage is as happy and stress free as possible.
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    I got kicked out of home when I was 16. I was living with a prostitute by the age of 17 and still put myself through uni and tech.

    Do the right thing by your son and boot him out.
    Its character building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb View Post
    I was living with a prostitute by the age of 17
    Bet that cost more than board at home..................and the penicillin
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    easy
    sell the the house and buy a small unit
    oh and make sure he knows he aint invited and there wont be a plce for him to sleep

    If you aint carefull he will move his chick in and then you will be stuffed

    That happened here the new girlie person came for the weekend and never went home and that was a year ago. I call them the royal couple and they do SFA around the place.

    However I do the cooking so guess who eats at maccas 6 or 7 nites a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowboy View Post
    Don't forget that the trend now is to stay at home well into one's twenties, so a baseline needs to be established now.
    Forget it? It's a recurring nightmare of mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by TassieKiwi View Post
    How about a compromise - ask him what his mates are paying for rent/food/bills - have him open a new account and have this agreed amount automatically banked from his pay each week here.
    Unfortunately his mates parents don't ask for board at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    ...you're stuffed mate, if the missus gets her way he'll still be there at 30...
    Arrggghhh, no.

    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    make him pay something for board and save for a car, it's the only way he'll learn about the wonders of adulthood with disappearing pay, taxes, lost dreams etc etc etc
    I am now leaning towards the $80 figure with no returns. It will also mean his entertainment costs come out of his pay but I'll cover most other things. I did want to make him buy his own clothes etc but I know the missus will undermine me on that as shopping "is her thing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lignum View Post
    To all you tightasses i just hope when your in your 70`s+ and you need looking after your kids take half your pension to do it
    If I don't get him to learn the value of money then he'll need my full pension to look after us! Besides, he's not a bad or stupid guy by any means, just lacking life experience. I don't want him growing up thinking he has a larger disposable income than reality allows for.

    Also, if he leaves home thinking I'm a tightass then he is already lost - he has done pretty darn well and knows it (thankfully).

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    I reckon $100 is a fair amount each week. Even on an apprentice's wage, I can manage to afford it and still splash the rest around.

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    Hey Greg rather than charge the poor bugger rent get him to clean your workshop, that would take about 40 hours per week and he will have earned it.

    Al

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    I still think you should sell the children into slavery.
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    not really on the topic but there is a awful yank show on tv called wife swap last week had two familys one lot ( the rich ones ) made their kids even the young ones pay for their share of holidays etc and they where so careful with the money and stuff would really like to see what they will be like in 20 yr but i also thought that iit wasnt bad to teach the kids values early nothing in life is free

    And i was only watching because there was nothing else on the box


    but have noticed that kids dont really have any idea about what real life is like paying bills meeting rent seems with a lot nowdays is all good time and fun first and not pay the rent if that leaves you short for a party on friday

    think i must be getting old lol sounding like my parents

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    Hi, from a perspective of a 28 year old "child" who has never left home.
    I have been doing my own washing and cooking since the age of 15.
    When I finished school (year 12) in 1996 I was working with my father, (builder/ carpenter/ concreter/ stonemason) I wasn't getting paid, and I wasn't on the rock 'n roll.
    I got an allowance of $20 a week, in 1998 he bought me a car, $800 1970 model.
    In 1999 he paid for my license. In 2001 I got a permanent part time job, and was still working with him when not at work.
    He didnt ask me to pay board, but I started paying for the groceries, electricity bill and water.
    In 2002, for various reasons, I took on the mortgage for the house, as well as keeping up with the groceries, electricity and water bills. I also took on paying for his car rego etc.
    In that time, (still working) he took time off to rebuild the engine in my car, serviced my car, and cut timber for the stove.
    Basically I was spoiled rotten, and didnt realize how much I relied on him till he passed away in 2005.
    Personally, in my situation, I hope that it equalled out a little bit.

    I would support the idea of a live at home adult paying board, and doing their own washing etc.

    In my view, paying board (or equivalent) helps an appreciation of personal responsibility, as well as financial managment. It helps people with the realities, in that the priority is paying bills first, the landlord isn't going to be happy with excuses as to why the rent couldnt pay the rent this week.

    I had a friend, she is 31, still living at home with her parents, not paying board, renting to buy the latest, greatest computer, Tv etc.
    I dont believe that she has gained any personal or financial responsibility through this, she still believes that she deserves the silver platter.

    (end of rant)
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    for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
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    Just quickly, since I need to go to work right now.

    I left home at the age of 27.

    I came here 5 years ago.

    You work it out.

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