why dont i take up self-immolation instead?

[Zed]

foam at the mouth, go off! scream rant and rave! tell em what a bunch of prats they are! hit a random fool! use timber as a pursuader and then just quit, fark 'em.

[outback]

Zed does mount an impressive and pursuasive argument.

[doug the slug]

Is a used vehicle an option?

The one they want to spend $30,000 IS a used vehicle!!!!!


Anyway, thanks to all who have replied. from what everyone here are saying i can rest assured that its not me thats losing the plot. Its hard to be sure of that when you are sitting around the table with5 people wqho have!!!

I guess it goes to show that us woodies are practial, level-headed and solution-oriented people.

[MurrayD99]

The one they want to spend $30,000 IS a used vehicle!!!!!

Dogsbreath! I was thinking $10k for a used runner..... $30k seems like a lot - market here is overflowing with used Jap imports. For $30k you'd get something near-new. Good luck anyway.

[Termite]

I guess it goes to show that us woodies are practial, level-headed and solution-oriented people.

It was never in doubt.

[Grunt]

Why don't you just flash your tits at them. I mean after all you have a great set.

[outback]

Grunt does mount an impressive and pursuasive argument.

[Sturdee]

Doug,


Given the previous criteria and the figures above each of the additional persons would need to spend per visit $ 68.20 over a 2 year term or $ 64.35 over 3 years or $ 62.70 over 4 years or $ 61.60 over 5 years.

These figures are substantially more than Cameron posted but his did not include the cost of the services provided to generate the additional net profit needed to cover these costs and the interest applicable.

However if you include the 3 members currently using the service as well as the 10 additional ones the figures reduce to $ 52.45 , $ 49.65, $ 48.23 and $ 47.38 respectively.

Hence it might be better to give the existing members a regular taxi voucher or consider buying a cheap preloved car to use as a courtesy vehicle. That would probably satisfy your committee's feeling about community obligations and as others have said appoint a committee to obtain a grant or business sponsorship.

BTW none of the above calculations include my fee as this one is pro bono.


Peter.

[Markw]

Doug
You have my sympathies

I was the secretary of a local kennel club of some 450 members and there are no others who are more ignorant, self absorbed and petty than those who show or to a lesser extent, trial dogs.

Our similar problem was a photocopier - repair, replace, rent or out-source the work.

I actually developed a business case for the copier replacement showing the pro & cons of various makes & models to repairing the current model to having the local Office Works print our club magazine. To cut to the chase the 3 weeks of after hours work including assessment of products, meeting reps etc etc was ignored cause the bit&h president would rather go to bl00dy Office Works and stated "who cares what it costs".

I resigned from my position and haven't looked back. Blood pressures coming down and I no longer care, no more arguements at home, no more wasting time seeking the support of idiots. It takes a while but in the end you realise that Life is better without the stress

Good luck in your outcome

BTW - For all your calculations on repairing the old bus, just remember that if its in such a bad state you may blow all the repair money if something else goes wrong a week after the repairs have been completed. Old machinery has a defined point where its no longer viable to continue with repairs, usually at about one to two thirds of the capital expenditure or a known mileage based on experience. When you reach this point you just have to bite the bullet and replace as the repair costs increase at an expotential rate.