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    Default gross generalisations tick me off

    Dear Wongo

    I have a point of issue with your blanket generalization in your Quote, about the thread on Methadone and little Rose

    It reeks of tunnel vision'd ignorance and bias and Sensationalism (much like the media who print these stories) implies that single mums are more likely to be “Serial Mums!” with multiple genetic donors of the “Y” chromosome persuasion. LOL

    The majority of Single Mum’s I have come across are not sole parents by choice but through divorce or through a death of a partner.

    I’ve worked in the Biomedical Field for over 10 years and the majority of my co-workers were, as you like to term “Single Mums”, I have no doubt they have paid their fair share of taxes and possibly more taxes than yourself.

    And as it is a horribly sad indictment that an innocent child lost her life due to the ignorance, and stupidity of her parents, I fail to see the connection between the two. Apart from your implication that Single Mums equates to Serial Mums equates to Potential Negligent Mums therefore resulting in the death of said offspring.

    Having used a lot of mathematical formulas in my time your theory is sadly lacking (That’s for the censors out there to read the implications LOLOL) I have seen first hand at just how difficult it has been for some of my co-workers to not only be a sole parent, but to try and juggle a career and just because they don’t possess the “Y” chromosome have to put up with similar attitudes from Patriarchal Dominated Research Academics! And the contempt shown to them because they have had a child! Is misogynistic

    So while we are all saddened by the needless loss of such an innocent life perhaps we can take some solace in the knowledge we as parents will never place our own Children or any child in such a situation.

    And for all who are impacted by this if you are religious perhaps offer up a prayer or blessing to your prospective Deities or God that it never happens to another child again.

    Sincerely Biotechy2k
    Who works from Home and raises her two children along with their patriarchal genetic donor.
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    If you read the sticky note post at the top of each forum - it looks something like this:











































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    It should be apparent from the first sentence that taking such a personal approach is not par for the course. A lot of posts you see here – especially in “nothing at all to do with ww” are a snapshot in time – a response from someone to a given stimulus (whoops - another generalisation ). Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I'm not knocking yours or endorsing Wongo's, just the style in which this has been aired.

    PS if you type stuff in word and then paste it in the layout is difficult to read and full of "fficeffice" />>>"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wongo
    Another thing that drives me bananas every time is those single mums who have 6 kids with 6 different fathers. Where the hells my tax money gone?

    Sorry where were we?
    I think if you read the sentence properly he is not having a go at single mothers per se.

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    Gingerchick thinks I'm generally gross
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    Those single mums with 6 kids with 6 different fathers give those single mums with 6 kids with only 4 different fathers a bad name. I hate generalisations too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biotechy2k
    So while we are all saddened by the needless loss of such an innocent life perhaps we can take some solace in the knowledge we as parents will never place our own Children or any child in such a situation.
    That part of your post I agree with, the rest of your post consists of either assumption or blanket generalizations and statements without proof.

    However as Eastie points out we don't take a personal view on others postings hence I won't get into a spirited verbal stoush over them.

    Either I'm getting old or wiser.

    Peter.

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    I knew a woman who had 4 kids, by 3 diff fathers. the first 2 were from the first bloke - he was in jail and she left him I think, the others were from failed relationships. she worked, part time but she worked, nice bird - I liked her and she wasnt some scrag that took advantage of the system. however I can see both points.

    what can you do ? pretty much S.F.A, there was this bloke in Germany who had a solution about 50 yrs ago but that didnt work out. its a shame really if the kiddies suffer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by biotechy2k
    I’ve worked in the Biomedical Field for over 10 years and the majority of my co-workers were, as you like to term “Single Mums”,
    I guess your friends had access to the technology!

    My kids call me "Dad" rather than "patriarchal genetic donor", so I guess we have a fundamental philosophical difference to begin.

    Maybe I could have some sympathy for what you are trying to say, but gross misrepresentations of gender bias really tick me off.

    Cheers,

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    Keep the drunken deekwits away from them and they wouldn't have that many kids. You all remember it takes two people to not worry about contraception to result in a pregnancy.
    When you look at the sheet young girls and women have to put up with growing up, ie not being accepted because they are tall or short or fat or thin or green/white/yellow/pink or whatever. Media portrayals of what a woman should look like. et al.
    Some of these girls end up with very low self esteem and consequently make poor decisions regarding drunken deekwit blokes at pubs.
    We can hope the children they have wont end up in the same place. (I'm sure my neighbour's daughter will be pregnant in 6 months)
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    Default I agree with the low self esteem comment

    Some of these girls end up with very low self esteem and consequently make poor decisions regarding drunken deekwit blokes at pubs.
    We can hope the children they have wont end up in the same place. (I'm sure my neighbour's daughter will be pregnant in 6 months)[/QUOTE]

    yes and the glossy mags depiction of what supposedly is perfection when my daughter was in year 2 at school she asked if she was fat,
    she's like her dad (very slender) I asked why and she said her class mate wanted to go on a diet
    7 yrs old that was scary society I am afraid still has a lot to answer for
    and the low self esteem sadly is a learned behaviour so if they see the parents with low self esteem it often is repeated albeit unconsciously

    and that is very sad

    biotechy2k

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    Talking history repeats

    3 years ago i became a single parent and deff not of my own choice ..... i had wat i thaugh been happily married to the same person for 17 yrs ...

    I am now extremely happily partnered we have his kids her kids and our kid .... and no i havent been preganant in this time ..... our kids range from 19 19 18 16 15 14 ( 3 of each ) and some are home grown and our baby has been with us for 3 mths and she is our foster daughter we have been very lucky we have a well ajusted lot they have seen a lot of good and bad things in thier lives and usually are not rude to the general public all have jobs sept our baby and she is working on that one already and she can only legally get work in 3 weeks time ...

    I agree totally im very ticked off withthen people who generalise all single mum's are bad working in the welfare system belive me its deff not the right way of thinking some of the worst cases i have ever seen have come from a well ajusted ( or so it seemed ) very well off family where i live

    now that i have untwisted my temper have a wonderful day jules

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    Everyone who makes gross generalisations is an idiot.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.

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    Hey jules

    Sounds like you and your partner are doing a great job and I hear where you are comming from with some kids coming from families with two parents
    Case in point one Friday evening a couple of years back I was up watching a late movie (cause dear hubby had gone to soccer and forgot his house keys) LOL

    so it was 10.30 at night and I wandered out the back to make a cupper
    my dog took off like a bat out of hell growling and heading down the hall way
    I raced after him (didn't want him waking up our rug rats and to see what was up anyway I found him latched on to the backside of some kid who had climbed through my lounge window I grabbed my stock whip off the saddle stand and told said dog to heel, (lovely big Rottie now gone to doggy heaven) and asked what the little bugger thought he was doing, said he thought it was a mates place
    Yeah Right! turns out kid was 14 goes to a nice "Private" school a daddy was a lawyer,
    mummy a doctor and I thought ok well I ring up the kids parents
    so I rang
    his dad and said come and pick up your kid I would have been happy if said dad was willing to give him a leather enema (aka boot up the bum) but dad arrived and threaterned to sue me as my boofy dog tore his nice new designer jeans (Not a mark on the kid mind you)
    My two rug rats still sleeping peacefully, just as the boys got back from soccer
    Mr Lawyer ranting and raving so one of the chaps in hubby's soccer team was the Ol Bill, basically thought the dad was being a real pratt
    Arrested him (the kid that is LOLOL
    I would have all let it slide if the father just showed some common decency and said yep my kids in the wrong I am sorry I'll give him a boot up the bum and he wont do it again
    But no some how it was my fault his kid climbed through my window possibly looking to pinch something while I had two wee tackers sleeping

    mind you if I'd hit the little rat with the stock whip I would have been charged with assault but there you go apparently I the one in the wrong LOL
    Go figure Huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by biotechy2k
    Hey jules

    Sounds like you and your partner are doing a great job
    Wouldnt that be, " the childs patriarchal genetic donor "

    Al :confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozwinner
    Wouldnt that be, " the childs patriarchal genetic donor "

    Al :confused:
    Not if he didn't donate any genetic material
    he may just be just a partner LOLOLOL
    Biotechy2k

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