I thought about this as a poll, but who cares,
I went to one in 1977, Kings Cross, boring but to pessed to care. The supplier just kept feeding us beer,
Sebastiaan
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I thought about this as a poll, but who cares,
I went to one in 1977, Kings Cross, boring but to pessed to care. The supplier just kept feeding us beer,
Sebastiaan
Never been to one, can't be bothered, never found the time, not drunk enough or in the company to end up at one. Who knows I am no wouser but could easily see the situation Rudd ended up in. Really who cares it's not a big deal, it's just between Rudd and his family and whoever floated this story should be help up for the muck raking scum:~ they really are.
John.
Come on, he went out with a northern territory poli, a journalist and a union official. I would be surprised if it didn't end up in a strip club......
and yes i have been to one, bucks night, and the girls looked so bored I went home after 30 mins (Had to stick around for a little while to be polite)
When I first moved to SinCity my first girlfriend was a bunny from the Bunny Club up the Cross.
I lived with a prostitute when I was 17 and used to make a good living selling paintings to the working girls in the Valley while I was still going to school.
So yeh, Ive been to a strip club.:) This was a former life mind you.:-
Hollywood on the Gold Coast:2tsup:
Never been in one, don't find them at all attractive. Haven't met anyone that does that I would want to meet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc
I am a wowser, but being in a strip club doesn't make a bloke unfit for office.
Having said that, a politician is on the job 24 hours a day, and a certain standard of behaviour (impeccable) is required while on duty, particularly when the politician is a senior one representing ME and MY COUNTRY!
Being too Pizzed to remember what happened would get any one of the rest of us fired! If the incident happened as reported (and KR admits being out of it), and he was a footballer, he'd be suspended at least. If he was the CEO of a public company, he'd be lucky to still have his job.
As for muck raking scum, why did they cover it up for this long???
My thoughts on the press are well known, but don't we have a right to know? :rolleyes:
Cheers,
P
:D i've been to a strip club, even been in a brothel. So what ? I've been pizzed too. so what ?
malcom frazer lost his strides once in las vagas ? he wasnt in office, neither was rudd.
All pollies, god botherers and journo's should be buried in a deep hole. :D
I just wanted to know how kevin got his big wooden cross through the front door :p
With a little building on top?Quote:
All pollies, god botherers and journo's should be buried in a deep hole.
Sebastiaan
Have you ever been in either of those states while on duty though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Frazer wasn't in office. Rudd WAS. He was the opposition spokesman on foreign affairs. Maybe he doesn't actually speak Chinese, maybe the seppoes just thought he was! :D
Heaven forbid if he gets pie eyed and decides to invade New Zealand for a lark! It'd be ok, he'd apologise and tell us he couldn't remember a thing.
Even RJ Hawke gave up the stupid juice while in office as I recall. (probably not the girly clubs, but that's not the issue!)
Cheers,
P
:D (It's gonna be a great week, I can tell!):D
He wasn't actually 'on duty' at the time though,,,,cough.
edit:He made the Guiness book of records at one time for the 'fastest sculling of a yard of beer'. Eleven seconds. :2tsup: Now that's a PM that I'd vote for. And anyone who'd sack him for that,,,,is a bum! hickupQuote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
Lets look at this a different way even though this happened in 2003/4
1 He is at the time a Government employee on government business for the taxpayers of Australia.
2 It is a breach of government work policy for any employee to have consumed alchohol at work or during work related matters. He was at work even if OS.
3 If this was a normal employee he would have been either sacked or downgraded and reprimanded, like recent Telstra staff also government employee's
4 John Howard imbibes enjoys his beer also at your/our expense he also is breaching employee regualtions as do ALL politicians who consume alcohol at work. Something no worker is allowed to do for fear of casuing and making choices which may cause an injury or kill.
As for christians and grog gee's Christ turned water into wine (imagnine drinking water from back then like drinking out of the tank stream when the colony was started).
Communion is taken with wine, Christ drank wine recall the last supper.
Monks Nun's and Priest's are some of the worlds greatest makers of spirits (not the holy kind)
Look at all the religous orders world wide who have clubs Catholic Clubs, Protestant, Muslim ,Buhdist's and many others.
Many years ago I sold my half share of a business to six of my guys.
They decided to take me to lunch at a Gold Coast "table dancing club".
Being a completely disinterested self confessed wowser, and very busy, by (soon to be ex) partner and I, gave the blokes some dough, and told them to enjoy themselves, but we really had a lot to do, so have one for us.
The following day, they all arrived looking quite sheepish.
I wondered why, and asked how lunch went. "it was very crude" said one, at which I couldn't help but laugh out loud. How is it that one could go to a place where naked shielas danced on your table, and expect it to be genteel and refined?
Personally, I'd rather not have dandruff in my steak! :p
Cheers,
P
:D :D :D
A mate shouted us in for his 21st and we hang around afterward and ended up getting pics taken with a few of the girls. Then my missus found them. Not been since, or ever likely to go again.
Nope,
Its been too cold down here fer me ter get me gear orf. :D
yep, I have. When I was young and "curious". See no interest in it now but still not fussed that he went to one. BUT, he should have left it at that and said yep, sorry, caught out, big deal. What worries me is that he's putting his hand up to be the Prime Minister of the country and he say's publicly "I got that drunk i don't what I did or where I was" seems like the words of a follower, not a leader. :oo:
Well, it doesn't matter what you do. All you need is faith isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by dazzler
It is Faith vs Action and faith always wins.:2tsup:
I once went to a buddhist temple to pray for world peace but so what? I was drunk.
But he wasn't 'at work' at the time. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelinround
Certainly the public has an expectation of politicians to uphold certain standards, but unless you advocate total prohibition, and baning strip clubs altogether, then he wasn't breaking any laws.
So long as he hasn't made a habit of it, then he was just being an average Australian bloke who'd had a few too many at the time.
It kind of takes the edge off his 'Christian, family values' type image though.:U
That's all for the better I reckon. :2tsup:
Which Prime Minister admitted to entering Parliament Drunk????Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
The guy was off duty and on his own time.. his employer has no claim over him.
Drunkenness and sexual immorality are both a sin in the bible. In this case Rudd chooses a lesser offence. OK it I will give him the benefit of the doubt. :D
Didn’t he speak to his wife afterward? :2tsup:
“Hi honey, guess what? I am in a strip club. Just a second gorgeous, not I mean I’ve got to go, bye. ”:U
He now has a new adviser, Mr Bill Clinton.
“Repeat after me son, I did not have ……” :D
But we as general dogs bodies have to adhear to the laws anywhere in the world not just here.Quote:
Originally Posted by pawnhead
At work we are not allowed to even turn up in some work places with a hangover. I used toi know boiler makers who were sent home after a grogy weekend and thats back in the 70's prior DUI and workcover & OH&S policies.
Ah so when a teacher takes your kids on an excersion they after 3 pm are off duty can do what they like. They are not to be held responsible for what goes on just think if they were Interstate or OS and did this.
All inn Favour of getting the APEC guys all phissd say I.
makes me wonder how much tax payers are forking out in grog for the APEC meetings and if this isn't sly way of saying its the Aussie thing to do. Get your visitors drunk.
RRFLMAO Bush already talks bad enough sobber.
Wrong! No such thing as off duty while travelling in an official capacity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gra
Tell that to any football team. Two weeks ago, two ARU team members were disciplined after doing no wrong whatsoever, just appearing to do so.Quote:
his employer has no claim over him.
How many times have off-field "antics" got the into strife. How much more is Shane Warne remembered for reckless handling of a SIM card? (If he'd been Indian he'd have been deported for that.)
With some jobs, comes an OBLIGATION to behave in a particular manner. Representing your country, whether in opposition or not, is one of those jobs. KR let us down. Maybe he could end up as our next John Kerr?
The religious debate is a nonsense and just clouds the issue.
Cheers,
P
:D
I went to one many many years ago and having bought the hostess six vodkas with orange, I observed she wasn't getting as drunk as me, so while she was absent, I tasted her drink and found it was just orange juice. So I went up to the bar and asked for the six shots of vodka to be put in the glass. The barman obliged stating "he must have forgot". The hostess skulled the glass and nearly choked. I ended up very soon after, mysteriously, at the bottom of the stairs. When I finally found my car, I noticed the headlights were still on. Say no more.
big deal,
the bloke got and looked at a naked tart. ever wonder why ? he was probably trying to butter up (or suck up) to some other imbicile and decided to try the "common man" approach... who cares!!!!
The question that should be asked is: will this affect his ability to run the country should he become elected. Common sense says no, many pissheads have been heads of many states....
bugger what the bible sez re sin, we all know it was written by a bunch of dudes in ancient times who's prime drivers were/still are "how can we oppress the masses into subservience via a mechanism of us pretinding to be the imaginary friend's earthborne spokesman? Ahh.... lets write a bunch of contentious and confusing mishmash and say he upstairs wrote it"
If god wants us to believe he should provide every generation with a genuine miracle, and I dont mean the bunnies winning the GF this year but rather something irrefutable, lets say something like making the pope fly on international tv or hanging all terrorists by the left testicle in St Peters cathedral, or if u like parting the red sea for a month, or even popping into our direct conciosunesses and saying, "hey Midge, this is GOD Speaking... are you listening ?"
:rolleyes: :((
So it's ok for him to run the country, as long as he doesn't drive me home afterwards. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
I've been to a few countries run by pissheads, and understand why a lot of the former inhabitants of them now choose to live here!!
"I just want to apologise for invading New Zealand, I had had a bit too much to drink and don't remember a thing!"
Cheers,
P
You don't have to be drunk to invade another country. Iraq?
Frazer, Hawke ? when u moving out Midge ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
A few years ago with a couple of South African mates we went to a strip club in Toronto Canada, arriving there about 11am, the South Africans were real keen - I am not sure whether they had ever seen such delights before??
The upshot is that after numerous rounds of beer, a little food, lots of gyrating flesh I fell asleep!
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Originally Posted by Grunt
Good coke works apparently...
Hey General, lets bomb the green bits after lunch.
Erm.. Mr President they're the rivers sir.
Oh..OK how bout these brown bits?
Clutching at straws there aren't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelinround
Perhaps in the court of public opinion, but so long as he's broken no laws, it should have no bearing on his selection as a cricketer. I for one am glad that we don't live with the archaic standards that pervade some other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
Certainly, but this really seems like a storm in a teacup.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
It certainly would be an issue to those who would vote for him because of his religious convictions, and it certainly is an issue when it's seen as hypocrisy on his part.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
For mine, it just takes the edge off an otherwise undesirable trait.
Don't forget about our Johnnie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Of course some will judge him in the court of public opinion, where our pollies aren't permitted to be human.
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Wrong! No such thing as off duty while travelling in an official capacity.
Tell that to any football team. Two weeks ago, two ARU team members were disciplined after doing no wrong whatsoever, just appearing to do so.
How many times have off-field "antics" got the into strife. How much more is Shane Warne remembered for reckless handling of a SIM card? (If he'd been Indian he'd have been deported for that.)
With some jobs, comes an OBLIGATION to behave in a particular manner. Representing your country, whether in opposition or not, is one of those jobs. KR let us down. Maybe he could end up as our next John Kerr?
My question is "when does someone like KR get off duty?" lets be honest he has the paparazzi after him 24/7 now at least until the election and then potentially for years unless he does a Johnny and gets so boring that no one is interested in his personal life. But it comes with the territiory. Bad luck fella, this is Australia, stick your poppy head up and kaboom......
As for did he do something wrong, that depends whether he inhaled or not, we will never know, there will be lies and spin all around. Im not moral enough to make a judgement, Im not sure that his opponents are either. What it does do is divert the media for a while,
Sebastiaan
Never been to a strip club and never really been tempted to do so, no matter how pi55ed i was at the time.
Isn't that part of the deal with booze - if you can't trust yourself not to do silly things when you drink, then you have to moderate your drinking. It's an individual decision for which you have to take individual responsibility.
The issue for KR is that:
- his generally abstemious attitude to drink probably shows that he knows that he does silly things if he overdoes it, we all now know that he has a problem and may not act in character when he drinks
- he has shown us that, even if he has resolved to avoid drink, he can lapse
- we have to vote on the guy we are presented with - if he has a known disability when pi55ed, he needs to convince us that this was a slip from which he learned, otherwise how do we know that he won't do some off-duty drinking and then make some bad decisions that will affect us?
I'd be worried if there was a habit of getting drunk but as a one off, who gives a rats.
Had Shane Warne just had a couple of incidents over his time as a cricketer, it would have not been a problem. Warnie made a bit of a habit of it and it cost him the captaincy. Punter had a few incidents with alcohol before he was captain but said he had a problem and got better.
Midge, why do you want to invade NZ.:? Isn't it ours already?
:D
What if Rudd secretly dreamed about going to a strip club, when he saw a window of opportunity he may have thought that he could go and justify it by blaming it on alcohol, but as you say who gives a rat rear end, it's political gutter tactics.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grunt
I've been to plenty of strip clubs. And I've been both drunk and sober when I've been there. I find them a bit boring and sad these days, so I've stopped going, but I don't see anything too much wrong with it myself.
I think this whole furore is just ridiculous. For goodness sake. As long as Kevvie isn't spending my money when he's getting snake's hissed and stuffing my $20 notes down the front of a "lady's" knickers, I don't care what he does when he is off duty. And I do consider his nights when he isn't at official functions "off duty".
For my money there isn't anything wrong with it, and it isn't any of my business. The folks that think it is their business are the ones that worry me a lot more....
I too have been to plenty of strip clubs and strip shows , never been to one alone though. When you go ashore with a group you would often end up in a strip club, and only 6 months ago went to a lap dance club while I was attending my nephews buck show , so what, personally I found them boring watching females who were not in the least interested take their clothes off for a bunch of noisy , and in the most part drunk, men.
I would have been more worried about Rudd if he went there sober on his own wearing a trench coat :oo: .
I do find some comments here ammusing and wonder what would have been posted if it was Howard who had erred. :rolleyes:
You mean he would finally have got a friend to go with :oo: or he had the interest left in him after doing it to Aus for the last 13years :wink:, virile puppy.....Quote:
I do find some comments here ammusing and wonder what would have been posted if it was Howard who had erred.
Been to a few seedy strip joints in my younger days, but I have never, ever been anywhere with a politician or a journalist, so my conscience is clear.
And I've never danced in fishnet stockings, either.