if only he had of worn sunblock he would have kept those dangerous rays away :(
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if only he had of worn sunblock he would have kept those dangerous rays away :(
Was reading a bit more about it in the paper today - the number of times I have been in a similar situation (proximity to a ray while diving) just goes to show. Worst I've had is holes punched in a fin by a Trigger Fish, but I've been in situations where I've had to swim right over the top of a ray swimming the other direction, in a channel too narrow to turn around.
Still think they are the most graceful creature underwater - they fly rather than swim.
Hope there is no senseless backlash against them.
Sounds like a freak accident, I managed to get sliced once but have never seen one stab.
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Originally Posted by Stuart.
Dont worry Stu, the seal hunters are on to the ray "problem"
Al :p
Hi everyone,
I was shocked to the core to hear about Steve Irwin, as I'm sure all of you will be too. The world has lost a great friend.
Our thoughts & love go out to his family & friends.
Sliver.
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by sliver
His wildlife park was a great experience and probably the only one where you dont constantly feel the owners hand in your pocket.
Even though a lot of aussies cringed at his okker image he will be missed.
only the good die young.
His Show was good.
Took a lot of risks.
Thought a big croc would get him.
Well bye Steve
the earth has lost a good soul....but hopefully gained a great awareness not just of conservation, but of how passionate the human spirit can be.
I feel for all of his family and close friends and associates.
I heard on radio national that it was all caught on film.
Apparently he was swimming above the Ray when it whipped its tail and drove the barb into the left side of his chest.
Steve then got up and ripped out the barb and then fell backwards........rip.
My heart goes out to Steve and his family.
He will be greatly missed here in Canada.
the world has lost a great man.
john
Was thinking about them as I wrote it funnily enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozwinner
Surprised that their boat has been all over the TV, including its name and everything. Even more surprised there hasn't been a backlash.
Why would you think that there'd be a backlash :confused:
It's not as if the thing jumped out of the water and broke into his house to get him. It was just doing what it does.
Most of the reports I've read have very carefully pointed out that it was not the fault of the ray. He was just being a ray. The implication is that if it was not the ray's fault ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart.
Tex
Just because of the way 'they' treat other similar types of events, such as sharks, and animals that are treated badly and finally lash out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
A defensive accident like this is less likely to have the same response from an uninformed public, luckily.
The QLD police have also released a statement saying that Steve Irwin wasn't intimidating the ray either and that it wasn't any fault of his:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex B
Wasn't a fan but no-one deserves to lose a dad and husband that young.
Cant say I was much of a fan... often calling him a dipstick dangerous and foolish along with terms such as SteveFlaminIrwin and such :rolleyes:
But... you gotta admit he was enthusiastic and passionate about wildlife, life in general and Australia... he loved creatures and nature and he loved Australia and didnt hessitate to say so every chance he got :cool:
Australia is less one hell of a son an embassador and a person of great potential... gone too soon doing what he loved
Heartfelt sadness to Terri Bindi and Bob to loose her husband to loose their dad at just 44 is the saddest thing :(
As I said - been in similar situations, and you can easily see how it would happen, without deliberate provocation of the ray, or the ray doing anything other than acting defensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wood Butcher
He didn't need to do anything other than be a bit close. The ray could have even have been startled by the cameras etc.
I don't think we necessarily have to look to find anyone to blame. Just a sh*tty bit of luck.
Hi all,
I was going to reply yesterday, but the outage prevailed.
When I heard of Steve Irwin's death, a number of things happened to me.
First I felt shock at the death of a young human being. Then grief for his family as no young child should need to face such a loss of personal time to rationalise what has happened.
Like many others, I felt that Steve was Over The Top in his public affairs and my next emotion was guilt at having felt this. I put this down as never speak ill of the dead.
But, Steve Irwin has left several legacies, some obvious, like his love for animals and conservation, which due to his OTT style sometimes appeared as "for public use only".
More importantly, he reminded all Australians of where they came from, that the values of family, generosity, mateship and compassion are intimate parts of our character and heritage.
But even more, to me anyway, he demonstated that passion is what drives us all. Without the passion to do well at what we do, note that this is separate to plowing your way to "success", we may as well lay down and die. He also reminded us that (in the words of Midnight Oil), "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees". And this is something that has been, and should still be an integral part of being Australian.
Regards and in sadness,
Rob
All of the above.
Having a young family I feel so much for them.
I thought Steve a twit when I saw him and have to admit an affection for his enthusiasm and genuine nature even if he was a clown that dramatised and exagerated the situations - he was loved by much of his audience and good on him for being fair dinkum.
If there is to be any backlash I suspect it will be more directed towards Germain Greer for her insensitive comments about Steve.
I saw him interviewed once or twice on TV and thought "he can't possibly be like that in private, can he?" He was either a genuine nut case or a very clever marketer (a bit like Paris Hilton in that respect). Certainly always had people's attention one way or another. I think if you had to spend more than an hour with him, either his enthusiasm would have worn off on you, or you would have wanted to wring his neck.
Very sad for his family. They probably thought he was as indestructible as he did, as did the rest of us. I'm just dreading the over exposure he is going to get now on every TV channel and in every newspaper for the next fortnight.
He used to drive me nuts with his over the top enthusiasm and the way he would harass wildlife for no other reason than to make a quid.
Al :)
Mate, it's allready well under way. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Can''t say that I was any great fan of his, I thought he was a bit of a plonker.
Still, it is very sad for his family.
Good quote :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flowboy
Cheers..............Sean
I must admit when I first saw him in action I thought what a knucklehead. His first doco I saw was about the top 10 deadliest snakes in the world. As I watched it it became more obvious that no he wasn't stupid and that he knew what he was doing. I became more and more interested in things. Then 3 years ago I went to the the zoo and found it to be an awsome experience and have been back twice more since then. My wife and I were lucky to see him and Terri perform on new years eve last year.
Both my my wife and I found it hard to believe when his death was announced on the news. I like many think his life was cut short as he had so much to offer. As they say though when your numbers up then there isn't much that you can do about it all. I just hope that Terri and the family are'nt chased by the media after his funeral leaving them to grieve in peace and hopefully to move on.
I would like to know the figures of how much of his money he pumped back in to conservation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
I think we would all be surprised.
I didn't find his enthusiasm over the top, in fact I am envious that I have never found anything I am that passionate about and made a good living from it.
Those who didn't like him surely suffered from tall poppy syndrome.
Cheers, Jack
As much as i thought he was over the top, I think he was passionate about conservation and protecting the animals. If he had to do that stuff to get the message across then i have no problem with it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
I have to disagree with that Jack. I think that there probably are people who don't like certain individuals just because they are famous or top of their field or whatever. However, you can't just dismiss every dissenter on that basis.Quote:
Those who didn't like him surely suffered from tall poppy syndrome.
For example, I don't particularly like Kylie Minogue. This is not because she is a world famous performer, probably worth millions and loved by millions. It is because I hate her singing voice and don't find her attractive. Some people might say that is just tall poppy syndrome. However, I am a big fan of many other equally famous artists - aren't they tall poppies too?
Frankly, I found Steve Irwin's public persona irritating, not because he was a famous whatever he was, but because I find all people like that irritating. I don't know what he was like in private but all the 'Crikey' stuff was, in my opinion, over the top, often amusing, but ultimately irritating.
It wasn't all that long ago that people were crying for his blood after that dangling the baby over the crocodile incident. What ever he was, it's a sad thing for his family and a tragic end for him.
I'll bet it was more than Greenplease ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack E
I like a lot of others thought he was too far over the top and simply sold the ossie ocker image to sell his product, and because I didn't watch his programs etc had no idea that he put so much back into what he was so pasionate about.
I now believe that we have lost a good bloke who realy cared about this country, put his money where his mouth was and tried to improve what he could, let alone the loss to such a young family
May you R.I.P.
years of online friendship killed by one line in a post. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
;)
I knew I'd get a bite from you ;)
OK, she's not bad looking. Just a bit skinny for me.
But she can't sing!!
:p
I thought it was only the gays who like her?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
And NO..... I dont like here either
Al :)
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Originally Posted by Jack E
This is just an easy out for people with no opinion of their own.
I dont like Coles Myer.
I dont like Bill Gates.
I dont like Georeg W Bush.
I dont Like Bin Larden
I dont like the IRA
I dont like The Queen
I dont like (insert name here)
I dont like lots of ppl who are rich and famous
Just because I have an opinion doesnt mean I have "tall poppy syndrome".
Al :)
I dont suffer from tall poppy syndrome....:rolleyes:
I mow 'em down as often as I can that way they don't get a big head... just my way I s'pose.:D
Pete
I agree with all the above statements, but, I'd like to point out the an Australian soldier or ex-soldier died today.
How many TV and radio hours, and inches of newspaper will cover that event?:(
Please, don't mention kylie and bite in the same post. I'll have to take a blood pressure pill. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by silentC
That's correct Tex - it has just been confirmed by the BBC in London.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tex B
Love him or hate him, Steve Irwin was an international household name. He was an expert reptile handler and boasted a wealth of general wildlife experience. He never made the headlines for cheating on his wife, crashing a Ferrari while drunk or embezzling donations. From all accounts, he was as enthusastic in private as he was when in the public eye. That alone makes him true-blue in my book.
Conservation has lost one of its most effective champions and Australia has lost a fairdinkum ambassador.
That big heart of his was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time - and I for one, reckon it's a bloody shame.
If there is a heaven, I hope he's up there now, havin' a beer with a croc.
Damien
Steve Irwin's untimely death has been covered extensively here in the US, as he was a popular figure, especially with children. He taught them that certain animals, although deserving respect as dangerous, should not on that account be killed or hurt. They were just doing what came naturally to survive. I personally found his on-screen persona a bit much, but his lessons were right on target, and if he'd been dry as dust no one would have watched.:(
I understand the QLD police have the tape. I hope they burn it, but probably no such luck.:mad:
I'll bet the tv creeps are climbing all over everything and everyone trying to buy THAT one!:mad: :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Childress