I'll be buggered. . .

Well... I already AM...
Picked up a TROJAN VIRUS - WORM yesterday...
Keep getting a pop up icon in the tray - and DOZENS of pop-ups..
BUT GUESS WHAT..???
Almost ALL the popups are adverts for SPYWARE programs...
Looks like the buggers are DELIBERATELY infecting our computers so's they can sell us the software to stop the annoyance...
The dirty buggers - eh..????

(Well I got spyware software - ran it a dozen times already - and it still hasn't got shot of the pop-ups... so when they sell you it - it don't work anyways....)
Sheesh.... ought to be a laragainst that.....
Jedo

I use Noton Internet Security ( I can hear the groans from the anti Norton mob already ) anyway, I get non of that stuffr what so ever.

Al :)

hope you didn't pay for the anti-spyware via a credit card... :eek: triple whammy!

Give ewido a try. It's free for 30 days with full upgrades. That'll tell you if you've been infected.

www.ewido.net

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

I use Noton Internet Security ( I can hear the groans from the anti Norton mob already ) anyway, I get non of that stuffr what so ever.

Al :)

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A virus is kind of redundant once you install Nortons Al, kinda like the difference between murder and suicide :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

I use Noton Internet Security ( I can hear the groans from the anti Norton mob already ) anyway, I get non of that stuffr what so ever.

Al :)

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I'm with you Al, backed up with Adaware, Spybot, and CCleaner. I often wonder if 99% of the claims about Norton are just people repeating something they've heard, it happens. I remember hearing a bloke rave on about what bastards Microsoft were, turns out he had never had a problem with them, he was just being a parrot.

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Originally Posted by Termite

I remember hearing a bloke rave on about what bastards Microsoft were, turns out he had never had a problem with them, he was just being a parrot.

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But controlled tests have proven that 8 out of 10 parrots prefer Linux.

I run Norton's Internet Security and Micro$oft's Antispyware (got some funny name for it now) and don't have a problem. I also check from time to time with Spybot and Xsoftspy and AVG and guess what, they all confirm that NIS and Micro$aft's program are doing their job ;)

Parrots might prefer Linux, but they also eat green pine cones :eek: (you ought to see the mess the Corellas are making this year).

Richard

Well... Im getting shattered left right and centre with scams spams and crap through the email (Mozilla thunderbird) for every one genuine email I get theres up to 20 that want to sell me viagra or something similar!! :mad: the desktop comps hard drive is stuffed due to the kids downloading music from limewire and turning nortons and avg off while doing it nortons I found to be a pain in the ass... we installed it in Sept last year and it was off within a month no amount of contact with nortons would see them agree that as a new program paid for separately to the computer theres no way I need to pay the buggars the subscription they normally ask for after a year of use! So the nortons is being removed from both systems AVG is still working Ive tried the Aussie one VET but its a pain in the ass and so far behind the times its a waste

Im presently trying to work out how to install linux into both systems... presently usin my laptop as the deskop wich is causing the poor wee thing connipshuns!... I hate windows... Next computer regardless of cost are going to be Apple!!

I'll be buggered. . .

Not by me you wont:eek: :p Tonto

Jedo when you first got it & I assume you are running XP you go to Start > help and support > undo changes to your computer with system restore > Restore my computer to an earlier time Then choose a date before you got the virus anr restore to this point, you will loose anything you have done to you computer after that point though :cool:

Then go and buy a good anti virus. I use Vet after putting the question to the forum as to which anti virus to use,
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=25450

Rgds

I have the Microsoft Firewall and use Norton Anti Virus. Works for me.

I think the biggest problem people have with Norton is they are reluctant to pay the subscription every year.
Then the nasties start to get into your computer and its Nortons fault. :p

Al :D

There are very few programmes that offer regular updated security without a subscription fee. Lets face it viruses and other nasties are always being developed to circumvent the protection programmes, therefore the protection companies have to update to beat the virus makers - nasty circle we all pay for and in this world you don't get nuthin for nuthin.

One of the major flaws with the Norton system is it's almost impossible to be fully rid of its nasty little fingers inside your operating system. The best and easiest way to rid yourself is an unconditional format of C drive. But if like me you have gigs and gigs or programs and data and mail etc etc etc, formating the HD is something only done once every few years.

Even then, the original drive is plugged in as a secondary backup to transfer data from. GHM is I ever crash a drive into an unrepairable state.

PS For those that get tons of spam - see if your ISP has a spam filter - Optusnet does and it works very very well - you just turn it on from your user profile. Saves probably 300 to 400 emails a month.

Every computer we buy for work has Norton already loaded on it so we let it run for the 3 months or whatever it goes for free and then we scrap the thing cause it's a pain in the asre, particularly when it wants to check all your outgoing email, then when it thinks an incoming email is a virus because it has an .exe file attached, it won't even give you the option of receiving it. Anything my software bloke wants to send has to have its extension changed to exs or something like it and then renamed by me at my end. VET costs me under $100 from memory for a site licence covering 5 computers and is updated every time I go on line. No Norton popups saying "Aren't I great, I've just blocked a virus for you, come and look how clever I am." The only way you know VET has been working is to look at the log file.
Cheers
Graeme

I use trend Pc cillan, I used to have norton but found it to be impossible to remove once it was installed, and the number of updates required used to slow my dialup to a halt. Also used McAfee, it was terrible, it buggered the registry which I had to manually correct myself, this was the direction given by McAfee technical support as there was no other way, this is a common problem with their version I had 3 years ago, I can only hope it has improved.
Trend Pc Cillan has not let me down yet, I also use spybot and adaware as well as firewalls.

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Originally Posted by graemet

particularly when it wants to check all your outgoing email,
Which you can configure it not to do if you wish.

then when it thinks an incoming email is a virus because it has an .exe file attached, it won't even give you the option of receiving it. Anything my software bloke wants to send has to have its extension changed to exs or something like it and then renamed by me at my end.
Again its all in the cofiguration, I can configure it to accept different file extentions.

No Norton popups saying "Aren't I great, I've just blocked a virus for you, come and look how clever I am."
I dont get those because, guees why? I configured it not to do it.

The only way you know VET has been working is to look at the log file.
Just like Norton, if you know how to drive it, hey Im a bricklayer and I can figure it out.

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Al :cool:

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Originally Posted by felixe

II used to have norton ... and the number of updates required used to slow my dialup to a halt.

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Umm felixe, I hope I'm explaining the screamingly obvious and you're well aware of this, but all those updates are what keep your computer safe. They are new data files, new program updates to handle new viruses (you know, the ones that are digging into new parts of your computer and can't be handled by new data files). Regular and frequent updates is safer than not so frequent. Your antivirus, no matter how good, can only catch the stuff it knows about.

Richard

Hi, Ive been on the net a WHOLE 3 months, started my computer with a clean install (Win98SE) and did all the microsoft updates before they stopped support for 98. Had on Norton Antivirus, Adaware, Spybot killer, and Zone Alarm, all updated. I finished the norton/adaware/spybot and zone updates, as well as the scans, rebooted, and something wasnt right. Downloaded AVG Antivirus (free) just after rebooting, installed, scanned and picked up a heap of stuff that the others (including norton) didnt. I have now found out that a mate of mine who builds/ fixes computers for a living who always swore by Norton now wont use or recommend anything other than AVG. It has my vote.

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Originally Posted by tameriska

Had on Norton Antivirus, Adaware, Spybot killer, and Zone Alarm, all updated.

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like my old mate confuscious used to say.......

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Originally Posted by confuscious

Confuscious say "blessed are the newbies who advertise their personal internet security arrangements in public forum for they shall be hacked severely"

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benchdog

Sh.ts me payin for the stuff that these wan..rs create just so they can charge you to fix it (nortons etc). I use zone alarm pro and have had no problems whatso ever, and , jeez I download huge amounts of stuff. If you want to get software cheaper, go to Bali or somewhere like that, but beware, you need to know what you are looking at!

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Originally Posted by tameriska

Hi, Ive been on the net a WHOLE 3 months, started my computer with a clean install (Win98SE) and did all the microsoft updates before they stopped support for 98. Had on Norton Antivirus, Adaware, Spybot killer, and Zone Alarm, all updated. I finished the norton/adaware/spybot and zone updates, as well as the scans, rebooted, and something wasnt right. Downloaded AVG Antivirus (free) just after rebooting, installed, scanned and picked up a heap of stuff that the others (including norton) didnt. I have now found out that a mate of mine who builds/ fixes computers for a living who always swore by Norton now wont use or recommend anything other than AVG. It has my vote.

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Funny how that works cause my own tests found the complete opposite conclusion. I deliberately infected my computer and AVG couldn't find a think whereas Norton's found everything.

Ask 10 computer nerds the same question and you'll get 11 different answers.

99.9% of the problems attributed to viruses and the likes on computers are simply superstition and paranoia. Since the dawn of time human nature has blamed the unknown on something evil or something super natural. I've been on the net for decades and have gone to hundreds of dodgy sites so I've picked up a few viruses and such over that time, even so they're still fairly rare. If I were an average user over the same time frame and avoided the p2p programs, the crack sites... I probably wouldn't even be able to count the number of infections on the average cabinetmakers one hand (ever notice that a lot of cabinetmakers are missing digits).

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Sh.ts me payin for the stuff that these wan..rs create just so they can charge you to fix it (nortons etc). I use zone alarm pro and have had no problems whatso ever, and , jeez I download huge amounts of stuff. If you want to get software cheaper, go to Bali or somewhere like that, but beware, you need to know what you are looking at!

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ZoneAlarm is only intended to stop other naughty computers from outside from taking over your computer. It will not pick up viruses and trojans, nor does it have a chance at stopping ads.
You still need a good virus detector and also run a program such as HiJackThis every so often.

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99.9% of the problems attributed to viruses and the likes on computers are simply superstition and paranoia. Since the dawn of time human nature has blamed the unknown on something evil or something super natural. I've been on the net for decades and have gone to hundreds of dodgy sites so I've picked up a few viruses and such over that time, even so they're still fairly rare. If I were an average user over the same time frame and avoided the p2p programs, the crack sites... I probably wouldn't even be able to count the number of infections on the average cabinetmakers one hand (ever notice that a lot of cabinetmakers are missing digits).

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Element of truth in this, I've had no viruses in 8 years - I don't bugger around with P2P for a start and stupid sites.

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Originally Posted by havenoideaatall

I don't bugger around with P2P for a start and stupid sites.

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You must live a very boring life:D ;)

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I've.....gone to hundreds of dodgy sites

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Cool. Care to post the links? :p

Just go to www.altavist.com
And type in .
Not that I would do such a thing of course. :eek:

AL :)

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

Just go to www.altavist.com
And type in .
Not that I would do such a thing of course. :eek:

AL :)

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Whadaya do Al, just click on favourites?:D

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Originally Posted by AlexS

Whadaya do Al, just click on favourites?:D

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Please.....
Im much more refined than that.

I have all the addresses memorised.

Al :p :D