I want to push about 18 metres of heavy duty 3 core power cord through some black poly pipe (plenty wide enough) and then lay it across the paddock to the shed. but it jams itself up after 2-3 metres any ideas please.Tonto:rolleyes:
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I want to push about 18 metres of heavy duty 3 core power cord through some black poly pipe (plenty wide enough) and then lay it across the paddock to the shed. but it jams itself up after 2-3 metres any ideas please.Tonto:rolleyes:
Tonto,
get a bar of soap and a bucket of water and make up a soap solution. Use a glue bottle or similar to squirt onto cable and into poly pipe. There are commercial cable pulling lubes available but the soap should get you out of trouble. BTW the poly won't do much to protect your cable. Proper conduit is a lot tougher (and more expensive:rolleyes: )
Otherwise you may have to push a draw wire through first and drag the cable through with that.
Mick
Tonto, use a draw cord and as Mick said plenty of lubricant.
One thing that can make it easier is to straighten the pipe and wire out and leave it in the sun for a while. This disipates the natural urge for them to coil up.
Get a draw cord running through the pipe and pull the power cord through.
If there is too much friction to pull it through don't strain it, cut the pipe close to where the power cord gets stuck and pull add a joiner (pipe not cable).
Get five lengths of yellow tounge spline and tape them together and push them through and tape the end of the flex to the end of the yellow tounge spline and pull it through. Or get some fencing wire and push it through first.
Just make sure it is laying out flat and it would help to get some one to hit the poly pipe with a length of broomstick as you are pushing it through. If you use the fencing wire bend the end over on itself to create a nice rounded end on it. Have used these methods plenty of times.
As Mick says it would be easier to use electrical conduit as it comes in 4 metre lengths and creates less friction and if you glue it with conduit cement it makes it waterproof.
One other alternative is PVC flexible electrical conduit as it comes with a draw wire already inserted in it.
Seeing the above boys think it's easy, get them to do it for you:D
Richard
What about a fishing sinker and light nylon line.
Fasten line to sinker and drop into pipe.
Lift pipe over head and the sinker will slide along.
Walk length of pipe lifting as you go. Sinker should fall out other end.
Use line to pull a stronger draw cord through, then the cable.
thanx guys keep em comming. :) Its flammin 18 m that I want to get it through :eek: Iam doing this only cause the landlord built a 7x10m shed for woodwork. Didnt like sawdust on the verandah. :D Yikes we're out in the bush too so nothing too fancy. :o T
If you want,
Get some PULLING Compound:eek: :eek: :D
For sale at your Electrical Wholesaler. by 3M
It's much like Detergent
AND
use a Draw wire/ Fisshing line or Somfink
Poke a bit of fencing wire through first.
Bend a loop on one end and tie the power cable to it then just pull it through.
This works for me...
Like they said. LAy your pipe out to flatten, run through the fencing wire, and Bob's yer aunty. 18m is easy, you can do up to about 75m in a hit using detergent, having someone whack the pipe to encourage your draw wire to move a long.
Shame you're not in Brisvegas - I'd push a rodder through for you quick smart, which is what I suggest you do as well. As you don't have a rodder, see if you can buttonhole a Telstra techo and offer him a carton - he'll have it through in a flash.:D
If you have compressed air, another method is to take a handkerchief and make a "parachute" out of it, to which you attach a piece of fishing line. The air blower on your compressor can then be used to blow the whole shebang to the other end. You can then attach some decent cord to the fishing line and the cable can be attached to the cord once it's through. 18 m is a fair old run without the right kit though. If you can get one end of the pipe substantially higher than the other, you can use a piece of plastic and some water instead of the hanky and compressed air. That will probably work better in your case.
Or do the oppisite to what Exador said... if you have no compressed air, use a vacuum cleaner to suck a wad of cotton(or what ever) through it.
horrors what strange and wonderful ideas we come up with. I wonder how many have been tried and whose going for the wierdest idea. I LIKE it keep em comming fellas. Tonto
Tie a weight to the end, hold the pipe upright and drop it down! (Sorry, can't lend you my 18metre ladder.)
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Originally Posted by Tonto
1. Quietly talk the flex into wanting to go through the pipe by itself.
2. Telekonesis
3. Split the pipe along its length, then just push it in.
4, Ya want me to keep going?
I know that by now you've probably got the wire stuck about two thirds of the way along the pipe, and need a really practical suggestion:
Why not stick a post in the ground half way along, and run the thing overhead?
No one will ever acccidentally dig it up either!
cheers,
P
If its stuck, just push the other end of the flex in from the other end of the pipe to complete your circuit, then bury it underground. That way no-one will catch on it with a high load. :D
S..t.
If he takes any longer to do this simple job I will go there and do it for him.:rolleyes:
Lay out pipe on ground to straighten.
Get a piece of foam a little smaller than the pipe.
Tie it to a light fishing line.
Lubricate foam and pipe. Liquid ballberrings is good
Blow foam and line thru with compressed air.
Attach stronger line and draw back.
Attach flex and haul thru pipe
QED
macca
David come on down man the doors open. Lower Eyre Peninsulars good place for hols. ....Tonto
I have used each of the methods I suggested on many occasions. If you are serious about wanting to get the cable through, just do it. The compressed air business requires a good seal and ideally the proper gear, consisting of a bung big enough to fit the pipe with a hole for the string and one for the air line. Often it requires a fair amount of pressure. As for the water business, I've used that to get a draw string through a piece of 50mm conduit that was impossible to rod as it was so full already. When there's only one way for the stuff to go, it tends to take whatever's in the way with it or find ways around it.Quote:
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Yeh! and I have this long springy thing coiled up inside a bicycle tyre that you would just love to have at this point in time.:DQuote:
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You gona pay the fuel costs?
Why fuel costs?:eek: you got a bike tyre you must have the bike as well get peddling:D ::p T
The funny part about all this is that Tonto doesn't actually need to do the job. He just posed the question to win a bet in the pub :D What was it mate? The most number of posts before a hijack? :D
Richard
Cynical Richard very cynical;) .Quote:
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S..t if I tried to PEDAL:eek: that far, hell would freeze over.Quote:
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ps: You must be slack if the job is not done yet.:rolleyes: