It's Time.

Hi to you all,
This is not what you wood expect in an exam room at this time of the year.
Chap helping out in an examination room full of hopefuls. About to start the the exam, & hands shoot up all over the room.
Problem ???? most of the pupils cannot tell the time on an Analogue Clock, so they had to provide a Digital Clock, not only that, he had to write the time in quarter hours on the board, crossing off each quarter hour.
How could this be, are they just lazy or they just don't want to know.
What's with these so called Students, as I thought we were taught to tell the time in Grades 1 or 2.
Maybe I'm wrong here, but I wood have failed each one that were unable to tell the big hand & the little hand point to what time it was.
What say you, because I'm dumbfounded.

So what? How many analog clocks do you see around compared to digital clocks? Is the clock in the corner of your computer digital or analog? What's the advantage to being able to read an analog clock? (assuming they ALL couldn't read one - which I doubt)

Most exams I've sat in the past have had the quarter hours marked off - it's pretty standard.

It's not a good or a bad thing - times change.

Hi,
Just a sign of the times.
What browns me off are digital clocks like my alarum clock that can not be set on 24 hour time, as that is the only advantage I can see in reading figures.
Regards
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I had one during an exam ask me to show her how to use her calculator.

I always taught my students both analogue and digital time telling skills.

A big advantage of analogue clocks is that you have a visual cue as to how much time is left, or conversely how much time has elapsed.

My adult kids prefer the digital watches. They would be stuffed using a digital to find direction using the sun, but I guess they could guesstimate the dial if they could visualise it.

TT

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Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon

My adult kids prefer the digital watches. They would be stuffed using a digital to find direction using the sun, but I guess they could guesstimate the dial if they could visualise it.

TT

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They probably have some sort of compass app on their phone. :roll:

They appear to have almost everything else on them these days. :U

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Originally Posted by Bob38S

They probably have some sort of compass app on their phone. :roll:

They appear to have almost everything else on them these days. :U

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Of course, I totally forgot about that :rolleyes:

TT

What you're talking about is not that unusual.

My son, now 43, didn't learn how to tell time on an analog clock until well into university. He had received some cash for his birthday and bought an analog watch. SWMBO remarked to me "How the eff is he gong to tell time with that watch?"

When teaching kids how to tell time, their biggest problem was with the before / after concept.

You should try teaching university level students...in Teaching...who are in their last year...and can't spell worth a jot, nor apply basic primary school grammar and punctuation rules!!!! It really is incredible :no:

Mah own kid dun gun be home skewld in that thar car'van...and thar aint gun be no time tellin' magic doohickey on ta wall neither :U

Yet the mind itself is a wonderful thing.

You should be able to read this - don't try to over think it just let your eyes and mind do the work.


I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

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Originally Posted by Bob38S

Yet the mind itself is a wonderful thing.

You should be able to read this - don't try to over think it just let your eyes and mind do the work.


I cdnuolt blveiee that I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd what I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in what oerdr the ltteres in a word are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is that the frsit and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it whotuit a pboerlm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the word as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? Yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

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And I failed what was then HSC English.
Yet I can read and write the language, as well as communicate in English.
What is even more remarkable is that I have had articles published in magazines.
And I failed the language at school!

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

The ability to monitor time - as opposed to telling the time - is not only a critical component of organisational skills, but also for emotional self-regulation (i.e. frustration tolerance). To monitor the time requires a visual pattern, which is integral to analogue time. All digital does is tell you one moment in time.

20 years ago I gave talks to parents on ADHD. My standard joke (a serious one) was that I could tell them who had ADHD in 3 seconds - just by looking to see who wore a watch. Kids with ADHD tended not to wear a watch - they had no interest in time management. These days I cannot say this since few kids wear a watch - they carry around a mobile phone ... which is digital. Where would they learn about time management?

Regards from Perth

Derek

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Originally Posted by derekcohen

These days I cannot say this since few kids wear a watch - they carry around a mobile phone ... which is digital. Where would they learn about time management?

Regards from Perth

Derek

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By putting an app for an analog clock on your phone of course. :U


Peter.

I had a similar problem transitioning from analogue to digital scales at the concrete batch plant.
When you're loading the hopper with raw materials using a front end loader you can watch your rate of climb of the needle with the analogue scales and anticipate when you have almost reached your target weight.
When the concrete plants were gradually computerised digital scales became the norm. No longer did the loader driver have the recipe written on a piece of paper in the cab with him, the computer put the ingredient up first then the target weight, eg 20mm aggregate size then 2400kg total weight. As you loaded it into the hopper the scale counted down until you reached zero, then after a short hesitation flashed up your next ingredient.
I always felt that I was a lot slower batching a load on the digital scales than the (good) old analogue scales.

Geoff.

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Originally Posted by artme

I always taught my students both analogue and digital time telling skills.

A big advantage of analogue clocks is that you have a visual cue as to how much time is left, or conversely how much time has elapsed.

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So you are saying that mathematical skills are none existent also

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Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon

My adult kids prefer the digital watches. They would be stuffed using a digital to find direction using the sun, but I guess they could guesstimate the dial if they could visualize it.

TT

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They would download the compass app on their phone, only good when the battery is charged

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Originally Posted by Handyjack

And I failed what was then HSC English.
Yet I can read and write the language, as well as communicate in English.
What is even more remarkable is that I have had articles published in magazines.
And I failed the language at school!

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My grade 12 English teacher and I had a personality clash (I had a personality but she didn't) and as a result, my English marks bore no correlation to my ability either.

Not sure what the rating system is now but in Queensland where I did grade 12 you were rated 1 to 7; I was rated 1 for Senior English, the lowest possible mark.

After completing high school, while in the Army, I went on to learn a number of foreign languages and have translated and interpreted to and from these languages and English at diplomatic and governmental level. I wrote reports that were sent to the Australian government and other selected governments throughout the world.

When I got out of the Army I worked as a part-time journalist writing two different newspapers, each published fortnightly. I too, have had work published in magazines etc.

I think it is safe to say that HandyJack and I both chose not to believe what our teachers thought of us and went out to do our best anyway. How many others with talents have been disheartened by the opinions of others and chosen not to achieve.

Cheers

Doug

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Originally Posted by rwbuild

So you are saying that mathematical skills are none existent also

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:?:?:? What the hell gives you that idea from what I have said.

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Originally Posted by doug3030

...chose not to believe what our teachers thought of us and went out to do our best anyway. How many others with talents have been disheartened by the opinions of others and chosen not to achieve.

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I could never spell words correctly. The lack of the ability to spell caused me to fail miserably at English and Latin. I knew that I would never succeed in higher education because of my spelling deficiency.

I barely got out of high school (year 12) with a diploma. For years I struggled with spelling and finally a gentleman came along and showed me the spelling errors that I made.

This gentleman didn't hit me in the back of the head with a ruler nor whack my knuckles at every spelling mistake. This gentleman just pointed out the words that were in error and offered some correct spellings that might fit the word I was trying to use. I would look at the correction and try to understand where I made my error rather than just accept the corrected spelling. This was something that I never had in 12 years of school. Today I'm not the greatest speller in the world but surely vastly improved from my early school years.

So, Thank You Bill Gates for your spell checker built into Word and Windows. You have taught me something that no teacher ever could.

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Originally Posted by rrich

So, Thank You Bill Gates for your spell checker built into Word and Windows. You have taught me something that no teacher ever could.

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Yes, we all have a lot to be thankful for with the good old spelling checker.

"Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its really ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect in it's weigh
My chequer tolled me sew."

The perils of the spell checker....

When report cards were first done on computer, the staff were instructed to ensure that spelling checkers were run as typing was not a primary skill for most. Unfortunately, only American "English" was available at the time and the recognition of names was a constant problem - it would be worse today. The worst / best (depends on your view) error was when the checker replaced the name "Phillip" with "Phallic".

Fortunately, the error was caught in time - I'm sure Mum and Dad would not have been pleased.

Well I owe the spell checker a lot. After commencing my tertiary studies in my mid 40's after a life time of trade work, my writing and spelling were atrocious. It was bad enough getting my head around thinking for my self and justifying those writings without having some doctorate student marking my work and slaming my grammer/spelling. I learnt on the run.

TT