attitude to language

just read thru some of these posts ( which are great for the most part )and got me thinking of langauge and swearing in particular after seeing a few posts that are careful in there wording to escape censorship
and the way things are changeing

Work in a school and hear the kids speaking dropping words that i dont use ( uless some part of me gets hit with a hammer saw etc ) at all and yet they are saying it every second word ( and that includes some of the girls )
so are we heading for a age when all the swear words are normal and no one will notice them , and then what do u say when u hit your thumb ?

will they look at the things that have been changed to get on the board as quaint that they havent passed ?

My Mum has a pink fit if she hears me drop the f word and cant stand some of the tv shows because of the language used ( bb is one of her pet hates ) but i also feel that a lot of shows are to clean in there language so they lose a little bit of the reality they are aiming for i mean u just find a headless body and they seem to say oh dear look at that mainly the yank stuff and when u do watch shows like big brother and hear normal pple speaking when p****ed and the langauge is blue as u have to wonder dose everyone speak like it already and am i just getting a old fudy dudie ?


anyway will be interested in others ideas
david

A man was charged recently in Wodonga with offensive behaviour for wearing a T shirt wth a pic of a nun with her habit pulled up exposing her map-a-tassie and the words JESUS IS A C@%T written in very large letters on the back. He contested it and got off because the magistrate didn't think that it was offensive, even though ten different people complained about it.

So there you go. It doesn't matter how many people get offended. A magistrate reckons it's not offensive so it's not.

Dan

BTW I've got pretty thick skin and it takes a bit to offend me, but I cringed when I had the story related to me.

Thought I would get in first on this one.

I realise that swearing is commonplace amongst most younger people.

The reason that this board is censored and kept to reasonable decorum is that it is accessed by a wide cross section of people from all countries. Something that is acceptable here could well be highly offensive to someone else.

On TV or radio you have the option of switching off or changing channels. We don't have that option here as I feel that people that come here, come here for knowledge and friendship and a little light hearted banter.

It just gets out of hand at times and some forget that they are not face to face or just talking to a workmate over a beer.

Oh Well 2nd ain't bad.

Ner Ner.:p

:D

David
I guess were dinosaurs, I never swear in front of women or kids , just the way I was bought up I guess.
My kids and their husbands do not swear in my house , just the way they were bought up
Dont get me wrong i'm no angel never have been. I went to sea for a lot of years and can mix words with the best but I was bought up with values that a lot will think outmoded , out of date.

But I still remember my father saying swear words are the tools of an ignorant man. Now I may not be smart but I ain't flaming, flopping .f******g, frigging , igorant.

As to what will the next generation say when they hit their thumb, with our skill shortage, it will proberly be "What Again"



The trouble with life is there's no background music.

FWIW, I tink that the rules here are stricter than what you'll see in the SMH or the Age.

However, having said that, it aint my board, and I figure that I just have to abide by the rules if I want to play here.

It's always fun trying to subvert them though :p :)

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Originally Posted by DanP

So there you go. It doesn't matter how many people get offended. A magistrate reckons it's not offensive so it's not.

BTW I've got pretty thick skin and it takes a bit to offend me, but I cringed when I had the story related to me.

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Dan, that there is a beak that needs another vocation, I know a number of guys that would brain someone for wearing that in public in front of their kids - Wodonga is semi rural, I am very surprised he got off. If he ever meets my sister he will get clubbed by a handbag with half a brick in it.

I think every generation of kids go through a phase of acting tough and trying to outdo each other by swearing, but most know how to behave appropriately when the situation demands it.
Some of the guys here behave in the same manner, they're amongst mates, but meet them in public and they probably wouldn't say s*** to a shovel (now you've got me doing it to get my point across!!) ... I know, I met one of the offenders a few months ago ... a thorough gentleman ;) .
I wouldn't use the "f" word to save my own life, and I change channels if I hear it on TV, but I am not offended by the disguised use of it (and other words) here. I think the guys here have just made it a sport to keep on his toes! :)

I think its got a lot to do with your peers, if you work in a place of male dominance its hard not to swear every second word as the norm. At my work(600+blokes)it is very common place... the funny thing is the older they are the worse they are.
Its hard for someone like me not to swear all the time, still I try not to but it just comes out.
The old fashioned gentlemen will be a thing of the past soon, the baby boomers are aging and many traditional ways are aging with them.

If it’s overused then it looses its impact.
IMHO there is nothing wrong with showing respect and refraining from using improper language in front of children and guests.
Using the language when you hit your thumb with a hammer is very appropriate. Better than throwing a sissy.

****,****,****,****,****,******,******,********, yeh, swear checker works OK. :D

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Originally Posted by Tikki

I think the guys here have just made it a sport to keep on his toes! :)

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doesnt have any toes, he has kicked too many bums on this BB and they have all worn off.:p
See not one freakin swear word.:rolleyes:

I forgot to add that when ever you have a get together with , it is expected that you wash his feet and stumps in olive oil.
And annoint them with the blood of a virgin, sounds off I know, but its what he expects.........:eek:

Al http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...ittleangel.gif

I work in a traditionally very blue collar industry, and mainly in the "sticks" but We're like anyone else, what the situation allows or calls for, reprimanding my kids I may use a few terms like "bloody, bugga" (that's the worst words I heard my granma use ever) etc but at work with a few of the guys' wellll the skys the limit in actual words but I'm not one for blue stories which usually I find far more offensive than a few F**(s or Sh%6 flying around. Years ago I knew 2 knockabout sorts, Father & Son, when Mick(the Dad) spoke every second word was a F or a C or a B or something was a heap o S, but you didn't notice wasn't said in an offensive manner, but when his Son said the same words in asimilar context it sounded shocking and offensive, enought to get him barred from Pubs & clubs in the area. Face to face it's not what's said it's how it's said, online it is very easy for things to be misrepresented, no inflictions or other signals can be gleaned.
Now the big kid in me,(lot of others here too fellas) takes delight sometimes in sneaking stuff past, like calling someone a D&ckhead by saying your vision is obscured when the pen is blocks your sight, or the old motorcycle mag cartoon dog Fred Gassitts' favs' like "farncarns, The Phantom is a phast Phluker or even far Q 2", try to keep poor old up at all hours :o

But I fully understand and try to comply with common board decorum.

Bruce C.
(I betcha when Shakespeare was a teenager, his neighbours and teachers complained about all the thees & thous wherefores he bespoked)

Heres one for you. A mum at school was telling us how her son the night before had told her to F*** O** and her husband heard it and gave the kid a walloping. Does not sound bad HUH. Well this was about 10 minutes after she had screamed at her son to Get the F*** over here.


Double stands or what. I dont use that kind of language. If the occasional S**t slips out within ear shot of my kids I apologise.

I have been trying of late to say "Blast" instead of F...ing ..ell".
I must only have said that once or twice in front of my 2yr old, but one day he dropped somehing and said F H. My jaw dropped and I have been saying blast ever since.
Even when I hit my thumb.

I worked with female social workers and they could make wharfies blush, just in normal everyday conversation.
If I hit my thumb my standard response is 'Oh woe am I' :rolleyes:

What was it?

Swearing is when you have run out of logical thought. :rolleyes:

Striking is when you have lost. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Iain

I worked with female social workers and they could make wharfies blush

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A lot of female coppers are the same. It's like they are trying to be 'one of the boys' but it just makes them look stupid IMO. Luckily MrsP is one of the good ones. :D

Dan

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Originally Posted by DanP

It's like they are trying to be 'one of the boys' but it just makes them look stupid IMO.
Dan

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Maybe they are not the only ones that look stupid - if they are trying to be 'one of the boys' - now you know what the 'boys" look like to others.

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Originally Posted by DanP

A lot of female coppers are the same. It's like they are trying to be 'one of the boys' but it just makes them look stupid IMO. Luckily MrsP is one of the good ones. :D

Dan

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Interesting, Dan.
In my last few years at work we had 2 women come into what was and still is a male dominated area. I don't think I ever heard either of them swear. Most of us just watched our language for a while, then apologised when we said the wrong thing, but they said don't worry, so we didn't.

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Originally Posted by ozwinner

I forgot to add that when ever you have a get together with , it is expected that you wash his feet and stumps in olive oil.
And annoint them with the blood of a virgin, sounds off I know, but its what he expects.........:eek: Al

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And verily I say unto you dont forget the billy of hot, strong tea or thou wilst anger the great executioner and mayst have thy head lopeth off
Pete

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Originally Posted by fxst

And verily I say unto you dont forget the billy of hot, strong tea or thou wilst anger the great executioner and mayst have thy head lopeth off
Pete

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Or thou thread severed

Russell