I hereby present, for your entertainment, a short history of Australian Bushrangers : Ned, Ros and now De-Anne the legend lives on.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gif
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I hereby present, for your entertainment, a short history of Australian Bushrangers : Ned, Ros and now De-Anne the legend lives on.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gif
Peter R.
huh?????????????
I'm thinkin' he's pointing out members of the Kelly family.
sounds like a sydney thing!
Oh I see. The first was a horse thief, armed robber and murderer, the last two are female politicians.Quote:
Originally Posted by outback
Yep. There's a definite connection.
I thought they all wear/wore body armour...I'm sure I've seen rivets poking through the jumpers of the latter?
P
:D :D :D
I thought it was just me :D
I have no idea what he is on about............. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Peter R]I hereby present, for your entertainment, a short history of Australian Bushrangers : Ned, Ros and now De-Anne the legend lives on.
yabut can they make pancakes???
that is the question :confused:
So who is De-Anne ???
I shocked. Nay, horrified. How DARE he mention Ned in the same breath as politicians. As we all know, Ned would have been a failure at politics - he was honest about being a crook.
Richard
Sit yourself down,Bob, whilst I explain about my little bit of sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Some of the board got it, it was a reference to the Kelly's. You see the first was Ned, he was a big bad man that roamed about the VICTORIAN and NSW country side sticking up good people. The second was Ros,Kelly, also known as 'Whiteboard' Ros. Labor, I think, who gave away copious amounts of taxpayers money to impress her boss. One particular grant from this lady was in this local area with the netballers. They wanted $50g to build their club house, Ros said NO girls, take $80g. The third is De-anne Kelly, Bob, a federal politician..FEDERAL, Bob, like in the big house with Johnny boy, Bob, you have heard of Johnny haven't you Bob? De-Anne's husband was working in De-Anne's office against the rules of the Prime Minister, Little Johnny, Bob, and he was sending viruses to other ministers, and that was naughty. De-Anne is also accused of abusing hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars much to the delight of Mark Latham, have you heard of Mark, Bob?
Sorry Bob, I am a real smart **** sometimeshttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gif
Peter R.
And your last post would back that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter R
Bob wasn't the only one who didn't have a clue what you were on about.
Sorry Peter, not a good post in my opinion.
Peter R.
Whilst I knew who the three were I also could not see the connection apart from them having the same surname. Whilst it might have made sense to you to me it didn't.
However your explanation is even worse. You make out that our hero Ned, a victim of colonial and British oppression, is a big bad man. What utter rot. Then to say that politicians doing their job ( giving away taxpayers money ) are crooks :eek: and similar to our Ned. Not very entertaining.
Peter get back in the shed and do some woodworking. :D
BTW I know who little Johnny is but the rules on politics stops me saying what I think of him. :D Don't want to yield his battle axe do we now. :p
Peter.
He's no hero of mine Pete, he was just a crook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
If you read the history books Gumby, Ned was persecuted into becoming a crook.
Peter R, I got, I just don't want it.
Peter Sturdee, I gotta agree with Gumby, I'm oppressed too, but I don't think I'll go round killing people just yet.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by outback
Ned Kelly was a murdering scumbag.
Sorry, but ned CHOSE to become a crook.
Mark who???
or this one...............
http://scs.une.edu.au/Bushrangers/kellys.htm
I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!
The tin-suit innovation was undoubtedly history-worthy, but wouldn't it have been so much more beneficial if he'd patented the outfit and started flogging them to the coppers?
He'd have made a lot more dough, and could have gone on to be Prime Minister, but he was too stupid and lazy, preferring to just take the rewards for other people's hard work.
Our pollies may or may not be many things, but there aren't too many of them that fit that category.
cheers,
P (crime commentator)
:D :D
When I was young and impressionable I started working for a bank. And before I get flamed may I point out that in those days banking was an honourable and respected profession unlike now. :D
The bank in its wisdom sent me a, city dweller, to work for a few month in Benalla in the heart of Kelly country. There I learnt about the legend, saw the places and became convinced that poor Ned was a victim of the oppressive Victorian regime and its then corrupt police.
If the Kelly's had lived at a different time and place I feel certain that they would not have become outlaws. May be not model citizens but not outlaws.
Whilst I respect other views, this is mine.
Peter.
Peter,Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
I don't want to start a heavy and serious debate, (after all we aren't talking about computers or pencil sharpeners here), but couldn't that be said of any criminal???
Or of anyone for that matter??
Even so....should we not for the sake of history note that the Kelly's were not the only victims of oppression, and some of the others probably didn't choose to steal stuff and kill people?
Should those people not be the true heroes, suffering silently or otherwise to achieve change?
Or did someone suddenly wake up one day and say "Hey that Ned had a point! Let's free the people?"
Whooo it's late!!!!
P (Been listening to too many of John Williamson's mixed metaphors for me own good!)
:cool: :) :)
I wonder what they'll make of Chopper in a hundred years or so?Quote:
I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!
Just another murdering scumbag! (Sorry Chopper... and author of children's books!)Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
There are any number of bad guys whose notoriety will remain with us for ever, and that's ok, after all they are a part of history and recognised for what they were.
Apart from Robin Hood (arguably there's a bit of the Kelly story in Hood as well, not vice versa!) were there any others whose intent was perhaps honourable?
Interestingly the rather sobering Broad Arrow Cafe monument in Port Arthur makes a point of not naming the gunman, in an effort to obscure his memory. There are a lot of websites which do the opposite, making claims of a massive conspiracy. Perhaps in another hundred years, he too will be just another victim of a government intent of ridding us of firearms at all costs??? And the families of his victims??
Dear oh dear PeterR, yo've got a lot to answer for!!!
Are any criminals famous for knocking off wood or furniture pieces??
:D :D :D
P
Oh No!!! society was to blame. Don't let Dan see this.Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Isn't it funny how a simple little light hearted post can take on the weight of all the problems of the world?
Sometimes I feel like I have stepped into a pen full of angry fox terriers, which of course, will bring another cry of 'foul'.
I suppose that BAH-HUMBUG has to live somewhere.
Cheer up - think of the new gadget that your loved ones will buy you for the shed.
Peter R.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon10.gif
PS I spend a great deal of daytime making sawdust - these posts are just for fun.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gif
If you don't mind Peter, I'd rather be identified with a Bassett, or even a Great Dane...they have a bit of a woof, then get to go back to sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter R
If I was a foxy I'd have to jumping up and down all the time and I'd just get too tired!
:D :D :D
Cheers,
P (Don't take it too seriously it's just conversation!!)
I've read the books and he was a crook end of of story. He's glamorised to sustain some small towns in Victoria and the film industry neither of which bother me particularly but he was no Robin Hood, what he did he did for himself.
HH.
I reckon Guy Fawks was the last person to enter parliament with honest intentions!Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
My last contribution to this topic is that I agree with everything Midge says.
Sic 'em Rex !!
Neither do I Midge for this is one of those subjects where there is no right or wrong answer only opininions. And as I said I respect that others their opinion. I also think this thread has run its course and that it did not go of topic must be a first for Peter R. :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
However, having said that, we must be carefull not to judge historical events by today's standards and society but rather in the context of the then existing conditions.
Peter.
Pancakes! anyone?
Al :)
We have to judge them by today's standards. Otherwise we'd still be burning witches (instead of allowing them into Parliament)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
Scotty, Scotty, are you there? Beam him up Scotty......Hang on, on second thoughts...Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Peter R.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...cons/icon7.gif
And to think I almost infiltrated
And so says all of me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
yes please with icecream and a sweet syruppy topping thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
Pete
Just found this one, what was wrong with Chopper, the murdering scumbag (quote) only shot drug dealers, not innocent bystanders.
His only downfall was bailing up a Supreme Court Judge in Court with a 12g.
If you want corrupt see CSA.
His problem was his mouth and his ego...Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain