puzzled about regulations re replica firearms
OK try not to make this too long.
I always thought they were illegal, however I was in Highpoint shopping center
and in the window of one of their shops I saw a large assortment of replica firearms, ie rifles / AK 47 / Thompson sub machine gun / pistols of all kinds.
I must make this very clear they were metal and looked identical to the real thing. Type in replica pistols and you should come up with Gold Coast War Museum a click on collectors armoury and you will see what I mean.
There is another shop in Ringwood that sells the same thing. When I was in Queensland and visited the museum I asked if I could buy one and was told they are illegal in Victoria. A visit to the site last night and I noticed a footnote stating "we can only send replica pistols to an address in Vic/Queensland/WA
:?
I asked at the shop in highpoint and was told they were legal if they have a red plastic tip in the barrel. A visit to the local Police station was unsatisfactory, and an internet search states a permit is required, however it was rather confusing. SO are they legal or not let me stress they they are as close to the real thing as you can get. A visit to the Gold Coast War museum
and you will see what I mean. I wanted to buy 2 and make a rack to put in my billiard room but first I want to know if it is legal. To say I am puzzled is an understatement, they are presumably illegal but I can buy one :rolleyes:
Thanks
puzzled about regulations re replica firearms
Thanks for reply.
Pretty well what I thought, but does not explain how the shop can sell them.
I went to Ebay and after a search I saw a luger for sale (with 8 bids) plus many other guns ie flintlocks I was so surprised I checked and found indeed they ban the sale (above gun since sold).
However it still does not explain how this shop can sell them legally. it all is very puzzling.
thanks
fuddle headed and muddle minded or the Peter Princple
Are I see you come up against the anomalies of the system.
The rules or laws are made by bureaucrats who have not one wit of a brain and cannot and perhaps will not consider all the ramifications of anything they do or not do and we the great unwashed should never question as they know best.
As for technical issues you raise, well these are far to common to be worthy of contemplation and are mere incidentals on the away to well funded and deserved retirement.
They are of great learning and many of mighty scholarly achievements. Tis I fear that all this may be their undoing for they know more and more about less and less.
nothing to do with firearms
I was the original poster and I sent an email and recieved an answer from licensing service-IMD-OIC, BUT I do not know how to insert it in a post, the only alternative I have is to type it out.
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puzzled about regulations re firearms
I hope I did this right, unless I have missed something i dont think they fully answered
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your enquiry regarding replica firearms.
Firstly, please note that currently there are no legislative definition for 'replica' firearms. In Victoria, replica firearms are considered as being detailed, working copies of established firearms which can fire, or can be altered to fire. They are considered to be firearms and placed under the same licensing and registration system as real firearms. They are subject to licensing, registration and storage requirement provisions of the Firearms Act 1996 (the Act).
If a firearm has the appearance of an operable firearm, but cannot fire and cannot be altered to fire, it is considered to be an imitation firearm. In Victoria, imitation longarms can be owned with a lawful excuse and imitation handguns are treated in the same manner as operable firearms (i.e. they must be registered and can only be held under a Category 2 Firearms Collectors licence. To be eligible for a Category 2 licence you must first obtain a category 1 licence and maintain the licence for a minimum of 2 years with a minimum of 11 firearms held under that licence).
As of 1 July 2011, due to legislative change, imitation firearms (both longarms and handguns) will be classified as ‘Prohibited Weapons’. Prohibited weapons will only be able to be possessed, carried, used, sold, purchased and/or imported with a Chief Commissioner Approval or a Governor in Council Exemption Order. Registration requirements do not apply to prohibited weapons.
If you have any further queries, please contact Licensing Services Division at [email protected] or 1300 651 645.
Regards,
Licensing Services Division
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From: LICENSING SERVICES-IMD-OIC
Sent: Monday, 7 March 2011 11:52 AM
To: Brickle, Trent
Subject: FW: replica firearms
The below e-mail request must be actioned. If a response is deemed necessary, please forward it to: LICENSING SERVICES-IMD-OIC in a timely manner.
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From: Jean [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2011 10:54 AM
To: LICENSING SERVICES-IMD-OIC
Subject: replica firearms
If replica firearms are illegal in Victoria, why can i buy replica firearms from a shop in Highpoint
such as AK 47/ Thompson submachine gun/ various pistols/ and rifles. I asked the shop
attendant why they could sell them and i was told if they have a red tip they are legal.
How is it they are illegal but I can buy one, I do not understand.
Would you please explain how this is possible, to make matters more confusing the
Gold Coast War Museum previously stated they were illegal in Victoria but now states
the following " we can only send replica pistols to an address in Vic/Queensland/WA"
Are they illegal or not, do I need a licence or not, if they are illegall how can I buy one openly.
This all seems like total confusion. I might add they are made of metal and are identical to the real
thing. I do not understand.
Hope you reply ???????
John Macklin my question which is at the tailend of the email
puzzled about regulations re firearms
If you look further down my email I think you will find they did not answer my question completely, I am still confused after all this
thanks