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Well the wackers are out in force trying to ban the use of plastic shopping bags.
The alternatives touted are
1. Paper bags.
So there go trees into the Second most pollutant industry in oz - The paper makers.
2. Cotton Bags.
Good choice dikheds. The cotton industry is the most pollutant industry in the world.
Commonsense says just change the type of plastic to one that deteriorates naturally.
Bob
When did common sense ever play a part in this type of argument?
Col
There are some places that have already made the switch to the boidegradeable bags. I was at a supermarket on the North Coast of NSW recently (I think it was an IGA) and noticed that their bags were the biodegradeable type.
As for paper bags, they are recycleable.........
How biodegradable are these plastic bags? Seem to recall reading that some that were claimed to be were still intact 18 months later. Have to agree about the paper & cotton bags though.
We try & use only the cardboard cartons that the supermarket put out.
Hemp is the answer:D
Smoking or wearing it? :D
,
If they were smoking it they wouldn't give a rats rear end about the plastic bags. (Duh, whatcha talkin' about man etc etc.) They don't call it dope for nothing.
Ken
The idea with the cotton bags is that you use them over and over again. The environmental impact is minimal compared to using and then throwing away plastic bags.
BTW, I bought some reusable bags from Safeway (Woolworths) and they were synthetic.
Now I don't claim to be a greenie but I do try to minimise my impact on the environment (unless I'm cutting down trees, pushing through the scrub in a 4wd or burning out a few acres as part of a hazard reduction burn :D ) We compost, recycle etc but there's still a bit of waste that needs to be bagged before going into the bin. We use the plastic shopping bags for this. Of course when the supermarkets stop supplying bags altogether (which, no doubt they will) we'll have to start buying plastic bags to put rubbish in. So if everybody in Australia does this there's still going to be a hell of a lot of plastic bags used. What does the environmental lobby have in mind for wrapping of rubbish? :confused:
Mick
"I like the string bags man, but my Lentils keep filling through the gaps, freaks me out man"
NFTY Ones
I think I know where you are coming from. We have converted to using those green bag thingies when we go shopping. Naively I thought they were made out of fabric. Nuh, the're made of plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
Check the label.
However, we have cut down our plasso bag usage by at least 60% I ireckon and the green plastic bags should be good for at least at few years.
You make a good point about packaging the rubbish though (and we don't have a compost bin, much to our shame :o ). I think we are supposed to do what our parents used to do. IE wrap our rubbish in newspaper and bin it ASAP.
Cheers
Craig
So what are you supposed to do if you don't buy newspapers? :confused: We don't because:Quote:
Originally Posted by craigb
A)No time to read them
B)Not worth reading
C)Get the news on the radio
D)Any really important bits will get filled in by our local "bush telegraph" system
So are people not going to put any liners in their kitchen tidies? That will mean washing the thing out at least once a day and I'm trying to save water as I'm not on town water.
Mick (trying to balance all the different demands of conservation and consumption for survival :confused: )
Go feral Mick :D
, Kuranda is halfway there:D
Mick,
If you don't have any shopping bags left then buy plastic bags for the bin. I think we just need to reduce our impact on the environment. We humans by our very existance, damage the environment and use resources. We just need to make sure we don't damage it faster than mother nature can repair and renew.
Grunt