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I think it was a tough call, even for a Kiwi. Just a shame that they got so close.
Anyway, I don't think we deserved to win it. No-one would've expected Lee and Kasper to get that close and they shouldn't have been in the position. If the shoe was on the other foot, how would the batsmen get on if they had to bowl?
Three to go and on past form, England will choke. If they win the series, they can get excited then.
So bloody Bowden's got it wrong again, and this time it really did matter.
Sorry, I used to like the thought of a bit of a character as an umpire, but after watching the clown live for two days, I started to realise that his ability is as dodgy as his antics. Really, I was amazed at how he carries on and just how dodgy he is as an umpire. He should NOT be umpiring at international level. This doesn't prove it, just gives me something else to growl about. Umpires will make mistakes - it happens and I'm one of those funny ones who believes that they should be allowed to make blues and not to can them with slow motion, freeze frame, computer generated images. However, at the matches, I could pick flaws with BB from the boundary line using field glasses, some of his errors and misjudgements were obvious without the glasses and he copped a lot of derision as we watched the big screen replay. He shouldn't be out there.
And the now he's ruined a match. I don't care if it was a very hard decision to judge. All his other problems cancel that consideration out for me.
Grumps
Richard
hmm, must be overdue for me flu tablet
Ah yes but I'm sure Bowden has made few calls that have caused Ponting to thank his lucky stars for short-sighted, eccentric Kiwis too.
Dean Jones was on the radio this morning. He was really ****** off that we let that test get away but even more annoyed at Bowden. A couple of 'plumb' LB's weren't given by him when the poms were batting.
I think his antics are becoming boring too.
One thing Billy Bowden is NOT and that's biased. I think he's out there genuinely trying to do the fairest and best job he can. He's just not up to it.
That's the thing about dodgy decisions - the impact they have on the game depends on when they happen. With only two runs or one wicket between a decision, you've got to be real careful. Anyone who's watched cricket for any period knows that the mistakes all balance out over a series or so.
I'm not grumpy with BB for muffing this call, just that a dud call wasn't a surprise coming from him.
Now, if we want 'good' umpiring, we need only think back over the years to some of the games on the sub-continent where a local batsman could sometimes hope to escape a clean bowled decision :rolleyes: (I exagerate but there have been times when I've wondered by how much). And I know we've produced a few questionable umps over the years. But I also know the cricket world has some very good umpires available to it. I never did like the 'neutral' umpire rule - I don't remember any problems about bias in Ashes tests in the past when Aussie and/or Pommy umpires were used. If they are the best available (and I'm not claiming they necessarily are), they should be used. Besides, why should an ump miss out on working in his own country?
Bah
Humbug
Grrrrrrrr
Richard
I think I'll wash down me next flu tablet with scotch
That's the telling point isn't it. Regardless of the umpiring, we should not have let this test get away from us. We've got batsmen who claim to be among the best in the world, well, they can flamin' well hit some runs ... well, a couple more would have been good :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Richard
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Originally Posted by Daddles
You're right - a couple more would have been good. But you're also wrong. The Aussie batsmen don't just claim to be among the best in the world. They have proved that they are the best in the world.
There are three more Test matches to come in this series. If they're all as exciting as the Edgbaston Test then - as spectators - we'll have nothing to complain about.
Personally, I can't wait.
God I hope not. I don't think myself or Mrs C could stand it....Quote:
If they're all as exciting as the Edgbaston Test
What's all the fuss about, we'ed have got him next ball anyway, don't forget I was doing my bit on the TV set at home. ;)
I saw the replay of you turning off your TV John and it clearly showed that you didn't actually turn it off. :D
And by the way Ricky.....
Give Hussey a bat !!!!
Flu tablets will just stimulate you, forget the Tablet and make the Scotch a triple. And follow it off with a few more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddles
Ah, it's all in the marketing script. :D
I think you guys will find BB should have given Kasper plum LBW a couple of overs before so alls well that ends well.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Daddles
Great Test, very exciting. Role on Thursday.
HH.
Yeah well it looks as though Lee is out for this one. They were talking about dropping Kasper for Stewie but that might change now that Lee is uncertain.
You can't say we're not giving the poms their best chance of winning it.
BTW I think that people who immigrate to Australia should be forced by penalty of expulsion to support the Australian cricket team. You can't have your cake and eat it too. :p
Is Lee definitely out? I thought he was just "in doubt".
He did take a pretty big whack on the hand on Sunday though.
Just heard on the radio that they want him to fully recover from a knee infection before they let him bowl again. Not sure what that means.
:D :D Come on I've only been here 10 years, if Australia become the underdogs and lose the attitude I'll think about it:DQuote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Although my wife is of a similar opinion to you and calls me a traitor when I support QLD in the State of Origin and England in the Cricket. I think I can't help supporting the underdog I think it comes from my support of West Ham who have broken my heart on many occaisions but still I support them.:confused: :D
HH.
This is what I don't get. With Australia it's "attitude" but with England it's "bulldog spirit".Quote:
if Australia become the underdogs and lose the attitude
I know what you're saying and England have built up a little attitude with recent successes. Maybe you need attitude to be successful, although it's a bit chicken and egg with success breeding the attitude but getting the success requiring attitude to some degree. We'll have to wait a while to see if they get an opportunity to build real attitude after the series is complete.;)
I'm just bitter and twisted 'cause you've whipped us so often.:D
HH.
This is attitude: :D
http://cricmania.com/afpNews/SGE.FGC...lt-384x372.jpg
Yeah, SilentC has been known to do this sort of thing.Quote:
I'm just bitter and twisted 'cause you've whipped us so often.
His whites seem to have special ventilation in the crutch, maybe this was just his expression after having the stump removed.:D
HH.
As opposed to:D
http://www.gg2.net/upload/worn-8407.jpg
HH.
Well there you go, the pictures tell it all. Warnie's not in the same league. His whites are intact (we assume)....
here we go again. Have a bat Mr Vaughan.
GMc is playing !!!!
I cannot believe he lost the toss. It was so obviously tails. Steve was so much better at the toss.
Gilchrist dropped one ! Geez, you could have cut it, shellaced it and buffed it witth EEE while it was in the air. It was THAT slow. Bloody hell :mad:
Not happy Jan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
Les
He is also taller than ponting , so was he a bigger and better tosser, Your definition not mine .Quote:
Originally Posted by boban
Useless infomation for the day
Virginity like bubble, one prick, all gone.
Didn't turn on the tv until they broke for lunch after bad experiences at previous matches .
So 93 for 1 at lunch, promising start.
If only he held that catch :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jow104
Why is Gillespie playing?
Much as I am an admirerer of his past deeds I think he's done nothing on this tour and it's time the indulgence stopped.
Perhaps it's just that Punter doesn't know how to get the best out of his troops?
Why didn't he bowl Warney before lunch?
Questions questions
Well, it's now tea on the first day... the track is flat as a F'n biccie.. & we have more fast bowlers than batsman & no fielders... I think we are F'd.... yet again...
Get ya finger off the phone Shane, we need you.
Which one :D :D :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
HH.
Bloody good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigb
He said on the radio this morning that the ball was starting to reverse swing and when that happens, you have to take as much advantage of it as possible. I'm not too sure about Punter, or a few others for that matter. McGrath and Warnie have carried that team for a long time and to have catches put down like those is just heart breaking. I couldn't watch it after the frist one went down.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigb
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How are we going in the Rugby ?
Agreed. In fact I'd go as far as to say Kasper should be there before Bubble Boy. Kasper gets a bad rap from a lot of critics but he's quite handy in the field and he gets wickets too.Quote:
Why is Gillespie playing?
Much as I am an admirerer of his past deeds I think he's done nothing on this tour and it's time the indulgence stopped.
Anyway, we (supposedly) have batsmen there who are all capable of century plus scores. We just have to hope they don't collapse again.
Gillespie 59 Overs 3 for 252Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Kasper 18 Overs 3 for 109
He's not taking enough wickets.
HH.
It hurts to see Dizzy being hit around the ground, as he's one of my favourite players. Would like to see Kasper have a shot.
But oh, those dropped catches and not puting Shaaaaaaane on earlier. And sending the Poms in last time. Is this the start of the slippery slope?
Ahhh come on boys. The other teams are allowed to do well occasionally. Cripes, do you realise we've probably got blokes in our team who've never played a five day test? Played lots of tests that were supposed to go five days, but which didn't.
Richard
I see back to back batting in Australias future in this test....:p
HH.