MattQuote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
Did you see medieval stocks perhaps? I can see that as an alternative to the press and I think I could find a few political candidates for the first inhabitants.
Regards
Paul
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MattQuote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
Did you see medieval stocks perhaps? I can see that as an alternative to the press and I think I could find a few political candidates for the first inhabitants.
Regards
Paul
No not so much Stocks, I was getting a more French revolution kind of feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
Maybe with Australian policies looking more like a Alice in wonderland fairy tale.
Maybe it could be off with there Head(Heads)
Cheers Matt.
MattQuote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
There was a rather macabre delight taken by the crowd at a good beheading (particularly during the French revolution), but we have not indulged in this gruesome luxury since 1977. :(
That was the date of the last execution by beheading using "Madame Guillotine." Just a little information in the light of your request for cutting angles (albeit on your gentleman's size saw for gentlewomen): The blade on the guillotine was made from 1/4" plate and was cut at 90°. It relied on the angled blade and weight to achieve a clean cut. On the positive side, it never needed sharpening.
Bet you're glad you asked. What's that? You didn't ask?
Oh! :-
Regards
Paul
Paul,
What will the punters be thinking of us [emoji45][emoji45].
Some light reading, just in case you change your mind on the Press.
Madame Guillotine and her Victims - The Reign Of Terror in France 1792-1795
Cheers Matt.
Is there some sort of competition on between the Sunday Round Table Jabber and the Friday Lunch Prattle over which gathering can come up with the most gruesome discussion topics? Things are going South very quickly. :rolleyes::no::~
No just idle chit chat, why is that a problem Doug [emoji6].Quote:
Originally Posted by doug3030
Cheers Matt.
Well it all started with chainsaws - Kind of understandable, being a woodwork forum and all - but there are always sinister connotations around chainsaws. I should have seen the warning signs but I ignored them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
Somehow one day, while we were already teetering on the edge of a slippery slope, Pagie dropped us into freefall by introducing a mystery tool. It wasn't even a woodworking tool as most of us thought we were talking about, but a circumcision tool. :C
As we continued our downward descent at a rapidly increasing rate, we then passed through castration. :o
Now we have descended to beheading and there appears to be nothing halting our further descent. :no: :roll:
I am becoming extremely concerned because the further down the slippery slope we go the bits that are getting chopped off are becoming larger and more essential. We have been falling so fast that we flew straight past more common but still unfortunate woodworking accidents like fingertips, whole fingers, thumbs or hands. :rolleyes:
How deep will we go? :oo::doh:
Nothing wrong with cutting bits off. If you don't use them, loose them.
Sunday is nearly hear again the end of the Week.
That means Sunday Night Jabber is yet once again.
All welcome, if your a member on this fine forum your welcome to join us.
It is a BYO gathering.
Tomorrow hot to trot subject matter(Not that we stick to it,but we do try)
Drum roll Please, its everything to do with Bow saws ,for know particular reason,just because.
So if your a Bow saw fanatic,have know idea what a Bow saw is your welcome to join in.
Start Time 7.30 ish AEST
That means those in Melbourne, Victoria ,Australia Earth ,we start at 7,30 Pm ish time, for those who live elsewhere ,I’m sure you can work out what time to join us because I can’t due to my forum name.
The Get together is held using Skype,you are able to join in by just joining as a Guest.
Https://join.skype.com/u73k1kv4B1UL
See Ya 7.30 ish Matt
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Well we had another go at stuffing up Skype. We are not the best at it. But we had a look at some bow saws and ideas of how to make them.
As Pagie pointed out ,WE DESPERATELY NEED A SKYPE EXPERT PLEASE.
So if you are a Skype wizard please either speak up hear or pm me.
CHEERS MATT.
My apologies for the problems I have been causing trying to participate in your skype chats. I know the problem and think I have found a work around.
The problem is hardware related and exacerbated by the fact the Microsoft (who bought Skpe in 2011 - I think) have not been releasing driver updates suitable for my computer HP Pavilion dvt7 - 3008TX. If they have, I cannot find anywhere, including Microsoft's & HP's websites, where I can download the drivers . The latest I can find is 2011.
I seem to be able to set the necessary system options in Windows 10 so that I can communicate with Skype, but as soon as I plug in the head phones the options get reset back the their previous settings. Hence why I have been able to set up the system and check it out with Matt it all works OK, but then wont work when I plug the headphones in prior to the meeting so Maureen can continue to watch TV without the annoyance of the sound from my laptop. Skype will not communicate through the external microphone / speaker connection, even when this is set as the default.
So the work around is to set up in another room, reset all necessary system options, cross both fingers and both eyes and hope that no-one calls me for a video call thru messenger - in which case I have to set up the system options again!
If anyone has any better solutions I would sure love to hear them.
Cheers
Bob
Well sounds like (pun intended) that bob has it worked out.....
I am certainly not a Skype expert but most of the time if your using the Skype client rather than via a web browser then generally it should just work.... weird audio hardware issues excluded :)
if you have ever joined the Jabber then the meeting should always be in Skype, no need to click the link from the thread, just open Skype and join the meeting.
It does mean the meeting can take place anytime and be up to 24hrs long.
Microsoft is pushing people to use Teams over Skype but I haven't fully sussed out a set of steps for Teams yet.
Cheers
Phil
Interestingly i can not get Skype to connect with my external speaker a Wonderboom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussiephil
But can you use my wireless headphones with Skype when I remember were i left them [emoji17].
So Bob we feel the pain.
Cheers Matt.
Thanks Phil and Matt for the comments.
I guess that my problems are compounded by age, not just mine but also my equipment.My laptop and most of my computer equipment needed for Skype etc was bought when I was teaching photography and Photoshop (1999 - 2012). Consequently the laptop doesn't have WIFI capability - in fact I noticed yesterday that HP have listed it as "discontinued" which I believe also means 'no longer supported'.
Matt, I will give you a call later today to setup a another test run with Skype, if you can make a few minutes available.
Cheers Bob
Bob, Matt - i have currently a meeting free day so can participate if you want. I'll open Skype up soonish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Cheers
Phil
Matt & Phil,
Thanks for making your time available, I am confident that I have a workable solution - not ideal, but probably as good as I can expect with the software and hardware limitations of my aging system.
Cheers
Bob.
Alas, Bob, I think that the basic problem is that your laptop has had too many birthdays - just like me and you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Your HP Pavilion Dv7 3008TX was released in mid 2009 - 12 years ago - which is antediluvian in computereze. You/we are all victims of planned obsolescense. They progressively add "features" to software which progressively requires higher specifications in the hardware, particularly the video card, CPU and memory. Then they stop supporting old software and the old hardware ....
The only good news is that laptops are now half the price of 12 years ago.
Sunday is nearly hear again the end of the Week.
That means Sunday Night Jabber is yet once again.
All welcome, if your a member on this fine forum your welcome to join us.
It is a BYO gathering.
Tomorrow hot to trot subject matter(Not that we stick to it,but we do try)
Is Show an tell ,show us with Pre Pics of something your working on big or small, ie post your pics hear so we can have a gannder before Sunday night
Mine is, yes a saw https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a361a9d3bd.jpg
Because you always need to cut stuff up [emoji6].
Start Time 7.30 ish AEST
That means those in Melbourne, Victoria ,Australia Earth ,we start at 7,30 Pm ish time, for those who live elsewhere ,I’m sure you can work out what time to join us because I can’t due to my forum name.
The Get together is held using Skype,you are able to join in by just joining as a Guest.
Https://join.skype.com/u73k1kv4B1UL
See Ya 7.30 ish Matt
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
For Matt, as requested - my secret recipe for handle/bench finish
1 part Pure gum terpentine
1 part BLO
add grated bees wax until you can't get more to dissolve
Shake well before pplying.
Let it soak in for 24 hours then wipe off and buff (any excess that is wiped off can be reused)
Additional instructions for millennials - Do not drink it.
Tonight’s meeting was a complete shambles,with no direction an every one seemingly have a good time, at the 29 min mark chainsaws were briefly mentioned. Bob aka Old grey beard was present, an i seemed to be the only one with show and tell, the other participants said they found providing a show an tell item quite “difficult”
Also next week for the regular participants we will have another practice with this,https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b49ba5a294.jpg
Also i hope Pagie docent feel it necessary next week to talk about his intimate life.
Cheers Matt.
But it smells deliscious!Quote:
Originally Posted by doug3030
Sunday Round Table Jabber 19th September 2021
Hot topic for discussion
Do you have a computer in your workshop / shed? Would you like one? If you answered yes to either of the above;what do you or would you use it for? To start you thinking, here is a list of possibilities which came to my mind:
- 2. CNC controller - Gcode creation and editing
- 3. 3D printing
- 4 . 3D modelling / sketching
- 5. Google search, etc.
- 6. YouTube
- 7. Download online plans, instructions, cutting lists, etc.
- 8. Access Woodwork Forums
- 9. Exchange How-tos, WIP, Photos and advice with fellow members
I am sure that you will think of others.
I know that I am not the only one currently experiencing hardware and software problems due to the age of my computers and software. While we may be able to find temporary solutions or work-arounds, inevitably the time is coming when we have to upgrade our systems - or maybe you have already done so and have the old system just taking up space. Either way the old system may well be a good candidate for the workshop computer.
Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday and hearing your thoughts.
https://join.skype.com/u73k1kv4B1UL to join the discussion as a guest (existing members - I know you know what to do because you taught me)
Cheers
Bob
Spotify music streamingQuote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Storing and reading PDF versions of tool/equipment manuals
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Bob, although I do not participate in the hook-up I do follow the discussion.
I mainly use my computer for CAD - computer aided design - using mainly Rhinosceros and Autocad. The manufacturers constantly upgrade the sophistication of their programs which means that they progressively require higher specification hardware. This basically means that you need a fairly modern video card and a fairly modern CPU and a reasonable amount of memory. For drawing work (only?) relegating an old machine to the workshop may be counterproductive.
I also ran your post past the nerd on the corner who tutors IT at uni and he said:
- printers hate dust,
- disc drives hate dust (remember them?),
- not sure on the effect of fumes and vapours,
- laptops hate concrete floors (his personal experience),
- keyboards used to hate coffee but are more robust now; if in doubt use it in a plastic bag,
- screen & other parts should be OK - occasional clean with compressed air good.
Good morning all.
GraemeCook has hinted at probably the most important questions for a full discussion of this topic.
It may be all good and well to want to have a computer in the shed, but is it practical?
1. Is it necessary - I was anticipating get beaten around the ears suggesting we need a computer in the shed for phone , emails etc; isn't that what your smart phone, iPad , etc. is meant for. So why duplicate it.
2. Environmental issues may be a game changer. In my case I have no WIFI / internet access nor do I want to set aside space to set up a dedicated dust free area in my shed.
3. I have 2 desktop computers in the house (about 20 metres from the back door), a 15" laptop and a 10" android tablet and both Maureen and I have our mobile phones. If we really need computer facilities in the work shop, isn't the question really about how can we better utilise the resources we have?
So now you have a few more questions to contemplate for Sunday's discussion.
https://join.skype.com/u73k1kv4B1UL to join the discussion as a guest
See you Sunday at 7.30pm
Cheers,
Bob
I have a really old laptop in my workshop. I thought it would be good for looking things up as needed, but:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
1. I hate having to use a computer when not in the office, where I use one all day, every day.
2. It's so slow, it takes too long to look up anything anyway.
So, it sits there, and only gets pulled out for the Friday Lunch Prattle, because the one thing it still manages well are video calls. :shrug:
A great topic and i'd like to get to this one but just in case my thoughts are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Yes I have two computers in my shed, one has dual screens and one is a laptop, with a crap battery.
Working down your list
1. This is done either on the phone/tablet/office PC - not in shed
2. No CNC
3. 3D printer, yeah two of them. Design, creation and prep all done on the Office PC however Web based management of one of them is done on either of the shed pcs or the office one.
4. as per 3 all done on the Office PC in comfort.
5 Mixed use across all pc's
6 office pc
7 Generally office but may display data in shed
8 in comfort in the office
9 Now this is rare but again it would be using the obvious pc at the time
10 Christmas light control and scheduling is the primary use of the desktop with multiple screens in my shed, the other uses above are nearly incidental, it's also the machine that has the fastest disk and usually the highest RAM but it itself is 7+ years old
My office laptop is approaching 5yrs, but still near current tech.
I have a office PC as well, but it's kept only for emergency use, got to be 8 yrs now but still performs fine with all current OS and software i use.
My office laptop is a 17" 4k display high end Dell but is approaching it's 5yr birthday .... but still beats most current mid range options.
The shed PC is as above but usually a lower end processor but fast disk and big RAM.
The shed laptop is around 10yr, and getting long in the tooth but a solid state disk gave it a new lease in life it's just the battery now sucks.
Most of the gear above was cost to the top of the line at the time of purchase and this gives it a longer life span in use.
I know that a lot of people can't do this for any number of reasons and buy at the bottom end but with this comes a potential reduced usefulness over time as OS and software get updated over time.... phones and tablets are the perfect example of this.
The old computer is in my opinion rarely a good candidate for the shed unless it's for limited use that it still works well with.
One suggestion could be also to just use a Tablet out in the workshop shed,it would not take much effort to make a “Book stand” of sorts with a plastic cover of sorts over the screen,tho i have know idea if that would work with Touch screens tho ?.
From my little experience of using one there fairly simple,especially if you don’t use an external keyboard,tho i do love my external keyboard on mine.
Bob maybe we could convince you too get a Tablet maybe [emoji6].
Cheers Matt.
I do have a tablet, but without WIFI or decent internet reception in the shed / garage, it doesn't help very muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
Cheers
Bob
Get a WIFI booster. I think mine cost me $20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldgreybeard
Tablets and keyboards, even laptops, can fit in a plastic bag, and still be usable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplicity
My current shed computer is a basic but modern laptop.
I use it to play music, usually 1970's youtube playlists.
I also have the tables of cutting speeds for the metal lathe and milling machine loaded on a tab for easy access when needed.
It also comes in hande for the occasional "how to" video or an online plan if I am using one.
My new shed computer was supposed to have been delivered yesterday, but got delayed somehow, probably Covid related.
Now it probably won't be here until Monday.
The new computer will add a few capabilities that were not available on the old one but the old one will still continue it's current tasks.
Here's a link to the new computer.
It is with a heavy heart that I must past on the tragic news That Bob AKA Old grey beards Lap tops computer as Die after a gallant effort with 240 volts.
So ironically Bob may or may not be with us tonight, but will be there in our hearts.
We will also have Ten second moment of silence as a mark of respect for the passing of the Battery.
Cheers Matt.[emoji20]
Well that's just great!
In he came for just one meeting, sets the topic for the next one then blows up his computer (ironically the topic he nominated) and disappears never to be seen again.
He will be sadly missed.
Next week is about sharpening everything.:D
Well not sure how the discussion ended up as I had to bow out to eat dinner, but here is the photo that i promised.
Attachment 501248
The tower unit in the middle runs 24x7 and is a file server for everything, i brush the front and the side big fan when i see a build up but the inside is surprising clean, the laptop is sort of temp and tends to be where i need it, it's the one i use for chat sessions when i'm in the shed.
The monitors are effectively protected from physical harm as they are at the back of the just high enough shelf spacing, this also seems to protect them from most dust.
The networking bits on the top shelf are the unluckiest as dust settles there quite well.
Lessons for when i redo the corner.
Build everything into at least top and side enclosed shelving.
Curtain style front covering will help in limiting dust.
Dust really isn't a huge issue.
Cheap keyboard/mouse combo's from officeworks are worth it.
If you must have a PC for any reason just make sure it's safe on a shelf and don't have dust blowing directly on it
Cheers
PHil
My new shed computer has arrived. :D:cool:
Attachment 501284
I'm amazed that some of you have so little dust that you would even contemplate have a computer with a fan in there. I'm also sadly reminded how poor my dust management in the shed is, that I would be amazed at this prospect.
I just found out that there is a sub - forum devoted to sharpening https://www.woodworkforums.com/f127.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pagie
Might be worth looking at before Sunday's Jabber
Cheers
Bob