I agree with everyone else. It was a stellar weekend (or part there of)
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DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
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I agree with everyone else. It was a stellar weekend (or part there of)
Great fire pit too https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3336c69b14.jpg
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
The Jointing Get ToGether finished around a fire and dinner table last night. I had shared a day (or 2!) with some of my great friends that I have found, been friended and befriended on this wonderful forum. I now also have at least a plan to fix the 'lost and found' items and so it is time to say my fond and sad farewell. I am sorry to have alarmed some people but please be assured that I am not unwell and, in fact, I am currently training for my thirty-somethingth Sydney City to Surf. As another of my great forum friends said the other day, they are "amazed that I, of all people, incurred the wrath of the moderators" and I am equally amazed. I have never knowingly told a deliberate untruth on the forum and I have too many other fun things to do in my life than to worry about breaking anyone else's arbitrary rules. I have had fantastic time on the forum, I have contributed a lot, I have hosted 2 major get togethers and attended more, I have organised attendance at the forum tent at the Sydney WWWS, I have taken a lot of time to post tutorials on such esoteric subjects as Chinese drawers and lead lighting. However, I have also learned a lot. Some of you have shared amazing knowledge, advice, friendship and counsel with me. I have gained much more than I have given or ever could give.
I intend to stay in touch with the wonderful friends that I have made. My life would be MUCH poorer without them and I hope that those of you who have my personal contact details will use them, stay in touch and share them with anyone who asks for them.
I leave you now but only on this forum, I hope to stay in your lives elsewhere.
Good bye and good luck, as the Irish comedian Dave Allen used to say, may your God go with you.
fletty :weeping:
You'll be missed. A tragic loss to the forum
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
:whs: YES :whs:
Personally Alan, I count it a privilege to have met you through the forum...
Thank you my Gentleman Woodworker friend for all your encouragement, support and assistance as well as your generosity and kindness...Peter
Fletty, your departure is a great loss to the forum.
I thank my God that I had a chance to meet you and hope we'll stay in touch to nurture our budding friendship.
I think your dignity in this situation is admirable.
See you on Friday.
mick
I was a late inclusion on the GTG as I was heading back to Albury from Sydney. I wish to thank my host Alan and Helen for their hospitality.
I only stayed for a short time as part of what I needed to do was unload the trailer and put the garbage bins out. :U Certainly did not want to do that in the dark. :C
I have been away from the forum for a few days for family reasons and I had to go back to read why Alan was leaving the forum. I am sorry that you have decided on leaving the forum. I wish that you would reconsider this decision and look in from time to time.
Knowing the background to your reason for leaving us, one has to be a bit careful in what is said in these posts, but suffice to say that you will be missed by so many that have enjoyed your thoughts, skill, friendship and hospitality.
Good luck for the future, enjoy the City to Surf, and if you participate in the Sutherland to Surf, I will cheer you on from the sidelines.
We will keep in touch one way or the other.
Stay well,
Alan...
Fletty,
I am so glad I have your email and phone number - will definitely keep in touch
(WW2 Bomber Command sons:2tsup:)
Regards
Keith
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletty
PLEASE NOTE:
To respond to Fletty post.... The wrath of no moderator(s) was incurred nor was he called a liar or teller of deliberate untruths or a breaker of any rules arbitrary or otherwise.
In my post (a copy of which is below) I was simply pointed out that the wrong information had been posted about Wheelinround being banned from the forums for a month. I was assuming the information was wrongly given to him by Wheerinround. At the time of Fletty's post 12 June Wheelinround's ban had been lifted for almost a month as his one week ban ended 13th May. So Fletty wasn't being accused of telling a deliberate untruth, just passing on misinformation from Wheelin' which he (Fletty) thought was the truth.
Fletty also received a pm from Big Shed after his post was edited to take out the wrong information. See below for part of pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by ubeaut
If people have a problem with something being edited from their post(s) or a comment made by Admins or Mods, they should report the post or contact the moderators or admin in a pm and ask for clarification. It isn't always easy to moderate these forums and some people, often for no good reason, get the wrong end of the stick. But saying they have raised the ire of moderators and leaving the forums without even a word to the Mods or Admin which could have straightened out a really minor misinterpretation of what has been said or done, isn't really the right thing to do by themselves, the mods, the members or the forums.Quote:
Just to correct the information you put in open forum, wheelinround is not serving out a 1 month suspension from the forum.
He was given a 7 day ban on the 5th of May for contravening the forum ToU and that finished quite some time ago.
I would like to think that Fletty was above turning his back and walking away from the friends and the forums which have been a good part of his life for the past 12 years. Especially as it appears to be due a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of what was said.
Fletty:If my post gave you the impression you had incurred my wrath and that I thought you a liar, then I humbly apologise as this was not the intention.:BNor was it the intention of Big Shed in his pm to you. Nothing could have been further from our minds.
If you decide not to return you will be missed by your many friends and those who's lives you have touched with your contributions to the forums.
If you do decide to return I'm sure you will be warmly welcomed back and a quiet cheer will go up around the forums.
Cheers - Neil :U
Without trying to pick a fight, an observation or two:
I can't see how whether the ban was a week or a month makes any difference whatsoever to the thrust of fletty's original post on the matter. He was just trying to explain wheelin's absence from the forum as best he could with the information he had.
If a Moderator thought that it was important that this was corrected then surely a subsequent post to simply say "wheelinround was banned for a week, not a month (or permanently) as previously stated" would suffice, and that would also obviate the need for a PM to fletty. In the context of that post, who really cares if it was a week or a month? The real point is that wheelin hasn't posted since his ban expired - whenever that may have been.
Nor would there have been any of the fallout that we have just witnessed, with the loss of an excellent contributor, and all-round damned fine human being. I have spent a great deal of time in the company of fletty, and they don't come any better. He is a man of great principles which is why, I suspect, he has his current viewpoint (also based upon his previous observations).
Like others, I will greatly miss him on the forum, but there is no way I will miss out on his friendship, so I don't feel he has turned his back and walked away.
in an effort to understand rather than provoke
The avatar for the member wheelinround no longer appears in my friends list
and the member name no longer appears on a forum member search
so it would seem there may be some additional information
He is still there in the members list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pac man
Peter.
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Originally Posted by Pac man
Looking in User Manager I see that Wheelinround was on the forums at 4:10am Sunday and it appears he has changed most of his settings including not showing Avatar, not receiving emails or pm's from Admin or other users and setting himself to invisible mode among other things.
Quote:
so it would seem there may be some additional information
There has been nothing done by Mods or Admins and we have no additional information other than what's in my reply in the above paragraph.
This was all Wheelinrounds' doing and no one else's.
Neil :U
I'm reliving the day thanks to Crowie. Starting off with a video of the leigh jig. Just got back to Vic and crawled into bed to a usb of video's
Now I will take this chance to give a big thanks to Fletty and Helen. It was a fabulous day and following couple of days as we jad the privilege to hang around a little extra time and enjoy their fabulous hospitality.
The fire pit burnt non stop till we left Tuesday arvo
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Kids loved it and wore out the ski slope and broke one bike
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And of course the day would not have been with out the rest of the forumites and a ring-in or two. Great to catch up with others and meet a few new ones too.
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
I see that grandpa has fixed the "pot hole"
As part of the Grandfather's creed, the bike has already been fixed....Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveTTC
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...... and so, the grandurchin's death-defying runs down the ski slope are continuing with the grandson on the pink bike and granddaughter on the blue :rockon:?
Just in case anyone may think that the day was only woodworking yarns, sausage sandwiches and rum and coke around the fire, I've gathered the tutorial evidence to the contrary....
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These are most of the output from the demos and I am really enjoying hearing about, and from, the attendees as they search the market place looking to buy something they saw in anger on the day. The record however goes to my old mate PJP who went home THAT NIGHT and bought a Domino on line and then a Gifkin at SWWWS!
Now, how can I use all of those joints..........?
fletty
Oh ... lost my reply
Was something like this
1) proof of life! Need evidence that said bike still works. Typically this would be a pic grandchildren holding a current paper while sitting on bike and then pic of them riding down ski slope
2) yes I too would like a domino and gifkin. On the must save for list
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
I love that sign Alan... I might have to get one too as my girls and my grandson think I can fix anything.....:C:U:doh::no:
Fletty,
Thought I might share this with you - a modification to my grandson's bike 2 years ago. Now scrapped but kept the sign
Regards
Keith
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Hi,
When I was a brat a three wheeler was a trike, a bike had two wheels.
Regards
Good point Hugh! As my grandurchins are twins AND one of them has a 'cultured' lisp, around here they are known as "twikes"!Quote:
Originally Posted by A Duke
and neither was made of plasticQuote:
Originally Posted by A Duke
Hi all, What was the general consensus on the Leigh dovetail jig? Expensive, no doubt, but it looks versatile and the results seem impressive.
Too much buggerising around for far too much money! You can buy an Incra Positioner for the same dough.Quote:
Originally Posted by dropstix
Didn't hear a single person say they wanted one.
Thanks. I'll hunt down a few Incra videos.
caveat -- I wasn't at the GTGQuote:
Originally Posted by dropstix
yes the results are impressive and the variable spacing is great, but let's be honest, the Leigh Jig is really a production tool. Set it up and then knockout a dozen dovetailed items.
Ideally you will have two permanently set routers -- one for the tails, the other for the pins.
The Gifkins is less mucking about, especially for finger joints.
For one or two DT items, it is really hard to beat doing them by hand.
Looked at a few Incra videos. Boy some of that incra gear looks almost surgical. I need a router table now? That means a bigger shed. S'pose I could buy an extension on the table saw but again, not sure if have the space. Incra looked like a lot of dial changing and not much of a visual set and forget type of jig, which I kinda liked about the regular jigs. But the Incra fence could be used for other things too.
My current DT jig is mainly for half-blind DT's and is fixed, so is an easy and cheap way to knock out DTs in a single-pass. But it's annoying that I can't change things, make variable widths, nor longer joints.
Regarding production, funny you should mention that, Ian. I was recently given a bunch of native timbers in sacks while helping a farming family move after the bank told them to sell. The timber was 'grandads' who has long since passed. Long story short, I plan on doing a batch run of jewellery boxes - about a dozen or more, from the various timbers, and gifting them back to the family so everyone has something from the old family farm. That said, it might be the one and only time I do such batches; time ain't on my side much these days.
Regarding needing multiple routers. I seem to have collected three over the years. Sometimes people sell their stuff off so cheap I can't resist ;-) That said, I did splurge recently to buy a 18v trim router and am now wondering if I could set that up to do dovetails too.
That's a lovely thing you're planning to do dropstix, good on you! The jointing get together was to help woodworkers decide what is best for them and what suits their situation and budget. I reckon the best for your situation (as it is for me) is definitely the Gifkin. The benefit of the Leigh is variable spacing and being able to create a set of dovetails to suit any width of material BUT, if you have a sackful of the timber, you can design the boxes around a width suitable for the Gifkin ....... and off you go?Quote:
Originally Posted by dropstix
Re a router table, the Gifkin works wonderfully with a router sticking through a simple sheet of MDF. That's how I started?
fletty
The 18v is great for quick small jobs but beware of getting it hot on longer runs. Speaking from experience you can cook battery from heavy work and it will become useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by dropstix
Cant wait to see your work
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
Thanks for the 18v advice, which I will keep in mind if I try the trim router on dovetails (was mainly for little edge/corner reliefs, setting door hinges, etc). Is timely advice too, because I recently bought an 18v planer which doubles as a metal detector with sacrificial blades (the blades are cheaper than the buzzer/thicknesser knives). It chews through a full battery charge faster than any other cordless tool I have ever used. But it sure is handy at cleaning off the years from demolition timber, preliminary straightening, exposing those nails hiding in plain view ready to ambush a newly sharpened set of thicknesser knives.
Thanks for the compliment fletty. Am not quite sure why but I have a thing about timber returning to those who have a connection with it. I don't get mushy about many things but timber seems to bring out a cosmic and herbal hippy side.
It would have been fantastic to come along to such a jointing GTG and try different tools/ideas and discuss the pros and cons. Essentially, in my case, it would be 'shut up and learn'. Maybe if there is another one in Oz I might be able to organise cheap flights and visit family while over there. That's a good point about having the luxury of fitting the boxes to the jig. Took a look at the Gifkin jig. Certainly has more options than the one I'm currently using.
For light work the 18v should be great.
I have an 18 v planer and successfully destroyed 3 near batteries in single day. Lesson learnt. Ouch $$$$$
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
Quote:
Originally Posted by dropstix
definitely want to echo what fletty said !!Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
I reckon that fletty is right on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
design your boxes around just one of the Gifkin templates.
use half of a quarter sheet of MDF as your router table.
and you should be good to go.
A jig similar to the Gifkins, in that it's used on a router table, is the Leigh RTJ400. Had anyone got one, used one?
Additional comment:
I'll move this to the Router Jig Forum
A point to remember is the Gifkin was a box maker and he made that jig (series if jigs?) to aid him in that work.
It is one of those few commercial jigs designed for a particular type of work, small boxes
Sitting inside but enjoying the low Sun AND a glass of red reminded me that D3 also made this little cabinet.....
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...... which I know as the prophesy cabinet. Not because of the crystal leadlight but because when she was making it she had no specific use in mind BUT, just before she finished it, I left my job and was given 8 wine glasses as a farewell gift....... and they fit PERFECTLY into the cabinet :woot:
My oh my the craftsmanship or is that craftswomanship runs deep in the Flett family.... beautiful cabinet!
Talented girl your number 3
DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art
Hi fletty
that cabinet is very similar to the Pier cabinet that is on my to build list.
I know it's a bit of an ask, but can you tell me the cabinet's dimensions, especially the sizes of the door styles and cabinet sides.
please :)
No problem,Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
main case 355wide X 600 high X 140 deep
door outside dimension 310 wide X 470 high
door rails 40 wide
door stiles 40 wide
plan view of top 400 X 165
material Bunnings pine stained ( we think) Watyl traditional cedar
Very skilled D3
Regards
Keith