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you'll need one of theseQuote:
Originally Posted by fletty
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Doors look really terrific Fletty!!:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:
Those old signs and the Aeroshell Oil can in particular remind me of a store down in the Riverina.
Can't remember where, but one of Grong Grong, Ganmain or Matong. The shop has an entire wall of Bushells
Tea 5gallon square tins with the original paper labels still intact.
Sorry about the aside, red herring, diversion......:B:B
Twas Ganmain I think!
Hope those trees don`t give you any grief. Damn good looking shed.
Fletty this was my attempt to create a unique gate handle.
I roughed it out on the bandsaw then shaped it with rasps and the sander.
In Sam Maloof's book he has a few pages about things he made for himself and there were a few interesting gate and door handles.
I am sure someone with your imagination can come up with something more interesting.
Fletty,
Doors look great mate:2tsup:, regarding signs -I made my own signs for my shed out of MDF. Took a while to cut out and paint but I reckon they came up pretty well. Used a 6mm backing sheet of MDF and then cut out the front section (again out of 6mm MDF). Painted separately and then glued on. Very CHEAP and lots of satisfaction doing them - just a thought
Regards
Keith
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I've been thinking the same thing but, inspired by Repliconics' epoxy artistry on the Brough, I thought I might try to make MDF masters, create a mould and then cast in epoxy. That way I could replicate the look of traditional cast iron railway signs?
I've done some small scale mouldings but l currently have no idea how to expand to such a large scale?
Google will be my guide........
fletty
Railway stuff is good thinking Fletty:2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
The font and shape of Trevor's 'Tottenham' and even 'fletty' (in the Brough thread) reminded me very much of this railway sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_1
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....and has inspired this little quest?
Mind you, l don't want to put THIS sign on the shed...... I won't get as many visitors!
fletty
Not a penalty Alan, but a fee for entry and thus a new kitty for more toys?? :rolleyes: :U
Alan
I think the signs are a fabulous idea. I have been amused by this insignificant sign that features in Mike Merlo's Ebay advertisements. It's down on the right when the pic is enlarged.
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I think "No spitting" was a common sign in pubs and bars years ago.
It combines the mixed image of vulgarity with the emotions of nostalgia and amusement.
Regards
Paul
The SAR ( South African Railways) signs said "Do not expectorate" and "Moen nie spog nie"
Then you had the old saying "You can not expect to rate as a gentleman if you expectorate in court".
Regards
I must be SO old! I remember both of those signs on the back of toilet doors in the Bath Arms pub!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
I also remember a campaign when I was living in China in the nineties, the 3 NOs, no spitting, no swearing and no jay-walking! Of the 2 that l could see, the success rate was NIL. As for NO SWEARING ...... it all sounded like swearing to me?
l bet there's a back story to the 2 signs on your post :rolleyes:
fletty
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fletty
Two signs? Two signs? What's he talking about? I went back, enlarged the pic and there was the "No Swearing" sign on the left!
I hadn't seen that. There may well be a story about those signs as I think Mike is quite a character. I may have to ask him. I missed out on one of his auctions for a Simonds saw recently (not the one featured above) as my pocket was too deep. When I buy my next pair of jeans I am going to check them for pocket depth before all else, seeing as how I can't do much about the length of my arms :wink: .
Regards
Paul
I've got a 'lectric shed!
Tony has just left after many hours of hard yakka. Ive got power points and lights and overhead power where Ive never had it before ..... and in the shed too :rolleyes:!
Many thanks to Tony, not just for the work but for the company, guidance and support to get to this point. The chisels will now be sharp and the beer cold at the sharpening GTG on March 13.
I can now get on with benches and racks and mezzanines ....... but maybe tomorrow?
a happy little fletty
Tis a mighty fine thing
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Most people think the carpenters were the first trade and the prostitutes claim claim they were first but it was the electricians, because when The Lord said "let there be light" all the cables and switches were already laid and there was Light.
:U
A shining example in an otherwise dull situation :2tsup::2tsup::2tsup: well done Tony.
I thought I'd go for another milestone day ....after mowing the back paddock with the Victa :innocent:?
l started the rebuild of the dust collector system and bought my first piece of 150mm PVC pipe work!
Now I'm a reasonably intelligent man. I know that 150mm is 1.5 times bigger than 100 mm and that the area of a circle of diameter 150mm is 2.25 times the area of a circle of 100mm diameter BUT, when you actually see it.....
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it is BLOODY HUGE!
My problem is that the inlet to the impeller on the DC is 125 mm and that this will remain my choke point until I go the 'upgraded 2hp generic DC route' :rolleyes: or buy a larger DC!
I have done some comparative flow loss tests and the worst offender, length for length, is, (not surprisingly)100 mm flexi. Surprisingly however, 125mm flexi is on a par with 100mm rigid PVC pipe. I haven't yet converted my machines to 150mm outlets but lm in deep withdrawal from woodwork and have even just been given a WW1 red poppy to "creatively display"?
To get back into woodwork, I'm going to create a 150mm backbone, use the absolute minimum amount of 100 mm flexi to connect the machines but make it upgradable to 150 mm when I upgrade the machine outlets. I'm planning on using 100mm flexi ONLY on vertical drops or where needed for alignment. NO horizontal runs and NO 90 deg bends.
I was quite intrigued to also measure that "100mm flexies ain't 100mm flexies" and there was a lot of variability in the test results. That beautiful, clear, VERY flexible flexi sold by Rockler with their dust right system performed the best and I THINK that is so because one of its features is that it automatically 'retracts' to the length needed when under vacuum and therefore presents a much smoother inner surface to the airflow?
I've got bits of pipe, 150 mm fittings, salvaged 100mm fittings, gates etc laying on the floor so that I can work out what I need to buy to really get started tomorrow.
fletty
Woooo whoooo. Another WIP. Bring it on
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Alan, Could you glue a flange onto the 150mm adapter to go on the dusty inlet and use some of Trevor's bogging skills to take up the gap, making a free flowing connection,.. I hope that makes sense?? Peter
I'd thought about that thanks Peter and was even going to contact the 'bogmeister' himself but the entry into the impeller housing is 125mm AND then the short length of Flexi after the impeller to the filter/collector, is also still only 125mm?Quote:
Originally Posted by crowie
Although I know that I could throw time and money at it and do better, it will already be very much better than what it replaces. The runs are halved in length, 100mm flexi will be reduced from an average per run of 3 metres to less than 1 metre of vertical drops only AND because switching is now more accessible ....I will actually turn it on much more often!
fletty
It has to be seen to be believed and then the light dawns as to why it flows so much air compared to 100mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
125mm to 100mm reducer W333 - DCA-125R Dust Hose Reducer | Hare & Forbes Machineryhouse
Today reminded me of an episode of 'Mythbusters' or the opening sequence for the '2015 Darwinian Awards'........
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....a man in the Midwest of the United States strapped 2 rocket motors to the roof of his pickup to see if he could break the World Land Speed Record while driving between........
Abner
And did you?
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
....the speed kept blowing the fuse out ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveTTC
Dont ya hate that. Guess you'll never know how fast you were going. If got to there before ou left you know you broke the speed of light
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Couple of top mounted bazookas to clear the dreaded Sydney trafficQuote:
Originally Posted by fletty
Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
Strange fuse kept tripping out using the belt sander today possible faulty ext-lead.
I don't know where to start with this and I can't remember how many times I have sat down to write this post during the last month so with your permission I will just wade in.
I have long railed against rudeness and repeatedly emphasised how easy it is to offend on the internet including these Forums, primarily because for a long time we have lost the art of writing.
To my shame I am guilty of that very thing here in this thread. It doesn't matter whether we are right or whether we are wrong, there is still a polite way to express an opinion.
I did not intend offense, but I know in my bones it was there. It is a little like the quiet you experience when a joke falls flat or you pass a particularly offensive aroma in polite company.
I did the unforgiveable so I hope Fletty and RW Build can find it in their hearts to forgive.
Alan and Ray: My apologies to you both.
Regards
Paul
Hi Paul,
just got home, PM sent
fletty
Well, Fletty is every bit the "gentleman woodworker," which I don't have to tell those of you who have met him, and he assures me I have anguished unnecessarily.
I am grateful for that and I appreciate his magnanimity. From my point of view it has been a wake up call in how I approach posting. There is no mileage in posturing. It is not generally appreciated and runs a real risk of stifling debate: Not only that, if you stick your head up far enough some clown will chop it off.
Thank you to anybody reading this and your indulgence. You must have wondered what was going on. I don't really wish to go over past history in the thread as I still don't believe it reflects well on me. If you choose to wade through again, I recommend, as always, sit down with a good supply of your favourite brew.
Apart from Alan's reply, it went awfully damned quiet again. I hope normal banter will resume, because I am enjoying this thread. It has moved along rapidly and covered diverse topics, all loosely associated with the build.
Regards
Paul
I totally missed whatever happened
Good thing this place is full of top blokes including yourself Paul
Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art
Paul, no offence was ever taken, you don't have to lose any sleep over it.
went over my head - at about 30 thou feet
Hi flettyQuote:
Originally Posted by fletty
It must be the different hemisphere, but I'm having trouble getting my head around this.
If your ducting is in the ceiling, and the vertical drops are "less than 1 metre", my poor brain -- I feel a bit like Winnie the Pooh -- calculates that the drops end well above (perhaps as much as 2 metres) a typical machine's dust port.
Time for some more photos?
G'day Ian,Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
Mostly poor words on my part I'm afraid :B and I will post some pics when I get it to a stage that makes more visible sense. Basically however, I am running a single 150mm diam PVC backbone at about 2000 high in the 'low' shed and a boom mounted 150mm diam, rigid, swinging duct at a similar height in the 'high' shed, My 'prep' machinery (thicknesses, jointer, drum sander) are all castor mounted and being modified to have a 150mm outlet on the top. In the near future, I will wheel them into place, lock the castors, connect to the overhead boom duct ....and Bob's your Uncle!
In my prior set up, I had some long 'drops' (climbs?) of 100mm flex and my new anemometer was showing that this was responsible for a lot, possibly most, of my flow loss. Changing vertical runs from 100mm flex to 150mm rigid with minimal or no flex, SEEMS to have greatly reduced my losses but I'm not counting my chickens until I actually finish the machine mods and get it all into place.
I am still missing some key bits, especially for the 150mm machine outlets, and this is preventing me from fixing everything in place and sealing the whole system.
I have discovered that conflicting advice and complicated sourcing means that I want to finish it all and measure it before claiming any sought of success :C.
Just as one example, to do what I wanted to, I have so far had to source ducting and fittings from Carbatec, Hare and Forbes, Rockler, Reece Plumbing and (soon) ClearvueOz!
Until/unless I replace/modify my 2HP generic DC, I will still have a 125mm diam choke point at the immediate entry to the impellor and the same from the impellor to the filter and this must limit the effectiveness of everything I am doing beyond that point.
i have a self imposed deadline on the March 13 GTG to have it up, running .....and measured?
fletty
If you are excited about this then you will be even more excited to know that 100mm ducting typically carries a maximum of ~425CFM while 150 mm caries about 3x more at the same pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by fletty
The 125mm is limited to ~700 cfm on most DC systems.Quote:
My problem is that the inlet to the impeller on the DC is 125 mm and that this will remain my choke point until I go the 'upgraded 2hp generic DC route' :rolleyes: or buy a larger DC!
By "dust right system" do you mean those wall mounted single bag units?Quote:
I have done some comparative flow loss tests and the worst offender, length for length, is, (not surprisingly)100 mm flexi. Surprisingly however, 125mm flexi is on a par with 100mm rigid PVC pipe. I haven't yet converted my machines to 150mm outlets but lm in deep withdrawal from woodwork and have even just been given a WW1 red poppy to "creatively display"?
To get back into woodwork, I'm going to create a 150mm backbone, use the absolute minimum amount of 100 mm flexi to connect the machines but make it upgradable to 150 mm when I upgrade the machine outlets. I'm planning on using 100mm flexi ONLY on vertical drops or where needed for alignment. NO horizontal runs and NO 90 deg bends.
I was quite intrigued to also measure that "100mm flexies ain't 100mm flexies" and there was a lot of variability in the test results. That beautiful, clear, VERY flexible flexi sold by Rockler with their dust right system performed the best and I THINK that is so because one of its features is that it automatically 'retracts' to the length needed when under vacuum and therefore presents a much smoother inner surface to the airflow?
Before I comment on this It would be useful to know how he comparative measurements were performed.
BTW, one way to further minimise the amount of flexy connection to a ducting system is to use ducting attached to machinery so that it looks like a snorkel i.e. comes up from low down extraction ports to about 1.8 m high (i.e. machine can still be moved around) then the machine can be parked right under a ducting port and a very short amount of flexy can be used.
Hi Bob,
"If you are excited about this then you will be even more excited to know that 100mm ducting typically carries a maximum of ~425CFM while 150 mm caries about 3x more at the same pressure."
:)
"The 125mm is limited to ~700 cfm on most DC systems."
:rolleyes:
"By "dust right system" do you mean those wall mounted single bag units?"
No, it is their quick connect 100mm Flexi hose system BUT the 100 mm flexi is VERY flexible, clear and expands up to 7 times its length with no perceivable diameter change. When under vacuum it 'retracts' to the minimum distance between its ends so much so, that the inner surface is quite smooth. VERY corny link added .... Dust Right Expandable Hose Review | Stumpy Nubs - YouTube
My 'new' setup will have a few 2 X 100 mm parallel Flexi applications including your 'snorkel' comment below.
"Before I comment on this It would be useful to know how he comparative measurements were performed"
Digital temperature corrected anemometer with input actual area for volume measurement tested as an individual entity and then with upstream and downstream entities in series to check for transmitted disturbance.
"BTW, one way to further minimise the amount of flexy connection to a ducting system is to use ducting attached to machinery so that it looks like a snorkel i.e. comes up from low down extraction ports to about 1.8 m high (i.e. machine can still be moved around) then the machine can be parked right under a ducting port and a very short amount of flexy can be used."
Exactly what I am doing on the jointer but somewhat more sophisticated :wink: on the drum sander and thicknesser. These 3, plus probably the modified bandsaw, will all have a single 150mm diam vertical-facing spigot at 1500mm height to suit the boom mounted duct.
fletty