Warnie to retire?

700 hundred wickets is more than just a milestone its a first in history and something once thought impossible. Only freaks will achieve this benchmark

I'm not sure what you mean by real comparitive stats. The longer you play the more difficult it is to keep generating great results consistantly. Thats why the official test cricket stats are recorded the way they are.

The ability to maintain form to keep getting picked at the highest level and maintain consistant results is much more difficult than just playing 100 games it simply comes down to how a statistition benchmarks

The only way to get things in perspective is acknowledge how great our Warnie is

Whos Legend will live on as part of the modern Game for as long as the game continues to be played internationally

Long live the King

Warnie...............Warnie................warnie.............warnie.............

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Originally Posted by bitingmidge

The king of spin is dead. Long live the new king, whoever he may be.

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John Howard is in the Australian team now? Damn... He already has a pretty good reputation as a king of spin! :p

Warnie a legend or king? Nah, he doesnt even rate in the same league as other "great" sports stars such as Lance Armstrong. I don;t want my kids to idolise a personality like Shane Warne. Kids use their mobile phones too much already these days for text messaging! :) :)

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Originally Posted by NewLou

The only way to get things in perspective is acknowledge how great our Warnie is

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:confused: yeeeeeeh, he's a great man alright....he's bedded over a thousand women !...hasn't he ? .....freeken freak of smoking nature.

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Originally Posted by masoth

I remember hoping a movie theatre would show edited news snippets of sporting events so the hoi polloi could know something about it - only the richer members of society paid to see sport. The general public didn't even know what some sporting games looked like.

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There must haved been an awful lot of rich buggers around when the bodyline series was on then, some of the attendance records from then have stood till this year!!

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Originally Posted by apricotripper

:confused: yeeeeeeh, he's a great man alright....he's bedded over a thousand women !...hasn't he ? .....freeken freak of smoking nature.

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Poor Bathplug

He said 'bedded' not 'wedded' :D

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Originally Posted by bitingmidge

Yep Silent, you're absolutely correct. (but a bloke's got to argue from somewhere!;) )

Saw Kerry O'Keefe this morning say something like the game won't be the same without Messrs Warne and McGrath, heard Ritchie say that the game has been changed forever by Warne.

It's all this sort of claptrap I can't cop.

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I disagree with your disagreement of what Kerry O'Keefe said, Midge. The thing with Warne is that he emerged after the West Indian team had indicated that the way to dominate tests was to torture opposition batsman with large calibre rifle fire. You must remember the days of four WI fast bowlers alternatively wandering slowly back to the mark. It was damned boring.

By comparison, watching Warne playing psychological cat and mouse with batsmen is fascinating. What Warne did was to reconstitute slow bowling as a more interesting alternative to pure muscle bowling.

So far as his private life is concerned, I've said it before on this forum and I'll say it again: "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone". As an example, according to statistics of infidelity, a large proportion of the people who lambasted Wayne Carey for committing adultry have done the same.

The worst part of Warnie retiring is that he'll now be a commentator on Channel 9. :(

Hey Midge, starting to feel like one of the pommy cricketers yet? It seems everyone's picking on you :D

Richard

Warnie - great cricketer, pity he's a tosser

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Originally Posted by Daddles

Hey Midge, starting to feel like one of the pommy cricketers yet? It seems everyone's picking on you :D

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Nah, I feel like Warnie! I'm reconstituting slow posting as a more interesting alternative to pure muscle posting.

Eventually I'll wear the buggers down!

The stats speak for themselves. He's played in more tests, at a time when there are more tests in a year than some played in a lifetime, and used a diuretic which could have been used to mask the steroids which he could have used to help him through.

Now Miller, Lillee and that crowd.. well they just used beer!

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700 hundred wickets is more than just a milestone its a first in history and something once thought impossible.

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Only because they play more Test now than they used to. It'll be broken by Murali.

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Originally Posted by Grunt

Only because they play more Test now than they used to. It'll be broken by Murali.

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Murali has played 33 fewer tests than Warne, and has 26 fewer wickets.

In terms of averages, he is one place below McGrath, Warne (for all his entertainment value) doesn't make the first page.

http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/STATS/TES..._BEST_AVS.html

I think once again it's interesting that the facts don't support the legend! :eek:

Cheers,

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Midge the Myth Buster :D

It time you started to get into quensland politics midge.....................

you've certainly mastered the art of tying to cook the books!!!!!

Warnie.............Warnie...........Warnie.........Warnie

In Bradman's day tests were longer and they bowled 8 ball overs. Any wonder he and his contemporaries scored so many runs. Anyway Bradman wasn't that great. He was in his prime when the player pool had been decimated by the 2nd war. It's one thing to achieve great milestones when surrounded by mediocrity - its another thing altogether to achieve personal greatness.
Warne's greatness has been earned by his on-field performances. He does deserve to be hung in the Long Room at Lords with the legends of the game. He will be sadly missed by cricket lovers and if his retirement allows him to reconcile with his honey and kids then good luck to him. I wish him well. ;)