We have used various types over the years, with the current one being a Berkey + Fluoride cartridges. Circa $500 for the model we have and it is portable and not plumbed in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bohdan
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We have used various types over the years, with the current one being a Berkey + Fluoride cartridges. Circa $500 for the model we have and it is portable and not plumbed in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bohdan
Be careful for what you blame cancers' comment threw me BobQuote:
Originally Posted by BobL
Firstly it not 'rocket science' that food/water/air,the stuff that sustains life on this planet, is becoming increasing 'tainted' with known carcinogens
Not 'rocket science' to deduce that more and more people globally will develop cancer because of this fact
The population of the planet is accelerating also
And pollution is the main driver and cause of people getting sick
Governments and Industry are in denial...but that will all change soon...the average 'joe' has been misled for to long
An inconvenient truth of our modern day way of life unfortunately
Cancer rates are much higher in 'developed' countries because of industrialisation and the high use of pesticides in the agricultural sector
Not to mention motor vehicles
We are poisoning ourselves and things are going to get a hell of a lot worse into the future
Our water ways are putrid,soils are putrid and our air is putrid...but hey it's all good...no consequences
Yes the poor little bee does filter the lead...but it SHOULDN'T have too...it deserves clean air and food like the rest of us
Why are 'normalising' a bad situation?
I don't have careful for what I blame for cancers...'it's not rocket science'...MM
It's easy to claim lots of things but all I say is "show me the research evidence" for your claims about causes of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN
While industrialisation and pesticides are important issues, Cancer Researchers suggest we should firstly be looking at lifestyle choices which they say cause 1/3rd of all cancers.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN
While Australia and the US are near the top for cancer rates, Japan has amongst the world's lowest rate yet would be in the top 10 industrialised countries..
Fatter, lazier, couch potatoes, that eat crap will breed cancer faster than blowflies breed on a dead fish.
Breathing polluted air,eating polluted food ISN'T a lifestyle choice Bob :(Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
You know what Bob...I wouldn't TRUST the scientific community as far as I could throw them mate!
Why?
Because they are OFTEN get it wrong
You want to be careful quoting stuff too Bob...you are venturing close to plagiarism I.M.O
I don't need to show you 'research evidence' Bob to prove that humans have a major health problem looming because of our dirty and irresponsible habits :no:
Anyway,this is a mere thread NOT a thesis !
Please refrain from insulting my intelligence...MM
My wife has cancer. Bit late to start worrying and arguing about what causes it. More important to get on with treating it. Even some of the the Pharaohs showed cancer symptoms when examined. Guess that means it isn't a new thing.
Avoid the obvious is about as good as we can do for ourselves at present. God's speed to the researches in both fields is what I say.
I'm not saying it is but that is not the only cause of our problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN
First thing is no matter how pollutant free food is, folks that have a poor diet (whether its lack of nutritious food in one country OR too much fast food in another) and do little or no exercise are much more likely to develop cancers. That's a fact.
It is interesting to look at reasons why pollution happens - I reckon most of these reasons are lifestyle choices made by first world consumers
People that smoke or drink alcohol to excess - both lead to cancers- that's a lifestyle choice in my book.
Folks that drive oversize vehicles or live in oversize houses when a much smaller vehicle or home will suffice - that's a lifestyle choice.
People who turn over their furniture on a yearly basis and buy all manner of crap from large stores - that's life style.
Plastic in the ocean - that's a choice made by consumers.
People should start look at rampant consumerism as much as anything else as to why we are fouling our planet.
We all could lead lives that are better for ourselves and the whole environment. ALL of it, on every level.
We should all be placing a premium on a pristine natural environment free of our pollutants and wastes.
We all have only this one planet and it seems to me that we are severely fouling our own nests.
Interesting Article about Beijing air pollution reduction here
Beijing sees dramatic reduction in air pollution but residents wonder if the change is sustainable - Environment News - ABC News
The Chinese Authorities are talking about getting PM2.5 down to an annual average of <60 ug/m^3 and they now have it at 58 ug/m^3
In 2013 it was 85 ug/m^3
All Australian major capital cities have between 7 and 8 ug/m^3 as their annual PM2.5 average.
For the Chinese to achieve that reduction, amongst a number of changes to factory operations, some "life style changes" were applied by restricting coal for heating sales to villages surrounding Beijing. Luckily they had a relatively warm winter period in 2017.
Beijing is far from the worst city in china with some 10 cities in China having higher levels
World wide there are 50 cities, mainly from India and the middle east, that are worse than Beijing.
A city in Iran tops the list at 217 ug/m^3.
What do your outdoor CO2 levels run Bob?
are you sure it's a city in Iran and not New Delhi New Delhi: Off-the-scale pollution prompts public health emergency, school closures - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
Dehli is only #10 in the world (122 ug/m^3) annual average, but sometimes does have days where it gets up to 500 ug/m^3Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
There are two other Indian cities with annual averages of 144 and 149 ug/m^3
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What do your outdoor CO
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2 levels run Bob?
I don't know. There are no publicly accessible CO2 monitors that I know of around here.
New Delhi...what a sad,sad mess :C...this is EXACTLY what I am talking about.
Fouling their own nest alright
Wonder what their honey contains? :yucky:...MM:)
Kolkata is another TOXIC city in India,of which there are quite a few...MM