CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

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Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Has anyone been able to find the Italian source of the Report referred to?

My reason for asking is that Bloomberg is politically to the right of Ghengis Khan and there is always the risk of subconscious editing....

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Yep I read it - its in Italian.
Here is the link https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronav...7_marzo-v2.pdf

There's nothing new in the report, the median age for COVID19 deaths is 84 years old for women and 80 for men, and of those 99% had at least 1 existing health condition. I doubt there would be many 80 year olds that don't have a least one health condition. 18% of all Aussies over 75 have diabetes

The report says it is based on data as of 17/3 but I think its maybe a day or two older than that probably before the docs had in some hospitals to park anyone over 60 needing a ventilator in a corner.

High BP, Diabetes, and heart disease are the primary comorbities.
I have 4 comorbidities, 2 of these are rare so that's why they don't feature on the list.

Only 17 of the 2000 odd deaths were less than 50 and they all had at least one pre-existing health condition.

I can extract the list of comorbidities if anyone is interested

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Originally Posted by Bushmiller

Well, that's it then.

Only one option available to him.

Hari Kari.
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Or will the FWIC think its a Chinese plot ????

On my trip to London to see my Granddaughters four years ago I got a really sore throat with neck glands up. Went to the hospital, showed my passport and was ushered to a waiting room which was chock a block. Interesting experience from people crying to those projectile vomiting, to those talking to imaginary friends to those assaulting others with the police coming in and taking one away in handcuffs - better than prime time TV :D
Anyways, about three hours later I got to see a nurse who did a preliminary examination and then I was sent out to wait. Two hours later I saw the doctor who examined me and I got a script for antibiotics. Next day, I went back to the hospital, waited in a queue at the pharmacy for an hour, showed my passport and script and got the antibiotics. Drugs prescribed st the hospital can only be picked up from their pharmacy.

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Originally Posted by Lappa

Was it really intentionally racist or little Donald having a childish moment ( or in his mind a normal moment)?. After all it did come from China and whilst this one didn’t come from Spain, it was still labelled the Spanish Flu and i don’t believe one would call that racist.

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The difference is that that was then (100 years ago) and this is now, and we are much less tolerant of racism these days. Furthermore, the Chinese have stated that they find it offensive, and Chinese Americans have said they are coming under fire because of the stigma that Trump is giving them. Also, Chinese people have been subjected to racism in every country that they are present in (almost all of the world) whereas the Spanish have copped it in England and....anywhere else? I don't think they are too popular in South America, but I doubt it's full on racism (a bit like Poms in Oz :D)

That should be enough for him to stop, apart from the fact that he has been advised to, but no, Dummy Donny has to keep inflaming the situation for some perceived advantage. He knows full well that it upsets the Chinese, so he deliberately continues to do it, to purposely inflame the situation. Same shight that is coming from Jair Bolsonaro's son.

Just because some idiot Chinese official suggests it was brought in by the USA military in October doesn't mean that the discussion has to descend into the gutter, but of course we are talking about the worst, most childish brat of a POTUS ever, with whom discussions don't descend into the gutter, they just stay there.

A great quote in the Guardian blog was "The President is continually trying to appear Churchillian, but at every turn he looks more and more like...Donald Trump."

This is a very interesting read from David Lipsom on Trump's wild change of course:
Coronavirus has finally spooked Donald Trump. Here's what changed his mind - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

There are a couple of short vids in there and both are worth a look, particularly the first one (Washington Post) showing all the Fox News presenters changing their tune dramatically within a week.

Note that it's from ABC News before you click on it and give those damned lefties another little bit of oxygen.....

Just announced:

• Tenants will be protected

"Relief can be provided for tenants in both commercial tenancies and residential tenancies, to ensure that in hardship conditions, there will be relief that will be available, and ensuring that tenancy legislation is protecting those tenants over the next six months at least."

Know what? I really couldn't care less what happens to the USA.

They have chosen their course. Their leadership. Their medical system and their brand of Capitalism.

I'm utterly, completely, fulsomely and totally sick to death of hearing about them and the toxic farce their leadership is.

That squeeky wheel, nay - rattling worn-down greaseless bearing - is about to seize up in a catastrophic financial failure that will look like Betelgeuse going supernova. Its game over for the USA. The end. Sayonara and good riddance.



What I AM interested in is everyone else. How the reasoned, rational, compassionate and wise are dealing with the worlds new woe and what positive outcomes we might experience because of it.

Will we be more tolerant of other countries and their cultural foibles? See people for what they are - interesting, intelligent, storied and historied?

Will we finally realise that fixation on financialisation has destroyed the world? Debt? Ridiculous over-governance and bureaucracy being, well, completely unnecessary?

I'm hoping that with a few months holed up that the nerds of the world create new tools for communicating and connecting with each other! I'm seeing amazing things occur - sharing, information, community, video conferencing, chats with distant grandparents.


This, might, remind us we are humans.... not taxable entities and debt repayment robots.
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If we heal and go back to more of the same.... what have we achieved?

WP, I think you forgot to add:
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Now technically, you are supposed to then finish with
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but maybe it might be easier to leave it open? :D

New social distancing rule is "4m^2" per person.

that work with AFL or NRL?

Table for 4 at a restaurant will occupy 16m^2?

Pub bar ?

Urinal?

Checkout line?

Bus queue?

Bus or train?

Just received a SMS from my sister who lives in California.

”...We are sheltering ( the term used instead of lock down) it was first a county recommendation and then an order - the governor just extended it to include all of CALIFORNIA. .....”

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Originally Posted by BobL

New social distancing rule is "4m^2" per person.

that work with AFL or NRL?

Table for 4 at a restaurant will occupy 16m^2?

Pub bar ?

Urinal?

Checkout line?

Bus queue?

Bus or train?

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Read that as well but we had the State Health Minister in the TV an hour ago, due to the new cruise ship problem, and he said make sure you keep a distance if 1.5m between yourself and others. So, 1.5 to the left and 1.5 to the right and same front and back equates to 9 square metres? Wish they would consult with each other.

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Originally Posted by Lappa

Read that as well but we had the State Health Minister in the TV an hour ago, due to the new cruise ship problem, and he said make sure you keep a distance if 1.5m between yourself and others. So, 1.5 to the left and 1.5 to the right and same front and back equates to 9 square metres?

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That works on my calculator too. If you can get your back to the wall the area could be reduced, but that did not work out well at The Alamo.

Regards
Paul

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Originally Posted by BobL

New social distancing rule is "4m^2" per person.

that work with ... NRL?
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Be interesting to see how they handle social distancing in the rugby scrums.

For those who live in the southern states and are not familiar with rugby terms, a scrum is when one guy tries to ram three guys heads up two guys .......

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Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Be interesting to see how they handle social distancing in the rugby scrums.

For those who live in the southern states and are not familiar with rugby terms, a scrum is when one guy tries to ram three guys heads up two guys .......

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Graeme

That would have to come under essential "services."

Regards
Paul

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Originally Posted by woodPixel

Know what? I really couldn't care less what happens to the USA.

They have chosen their course. Their leadership. Their medical system and their brand of Capitalism.

I'm utterly, completely, fulsomely and totally sick to death of hearing about them and the toxic farce their leadership is.

That squeeky wheel, nay - rattling worn-down greaseless bearing - is about to seize up in a catastrophic financial failure that will look like Betelgeuse going supernova. Its game over for the USA. The end. Sayonara and good riddance.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. Who gives a rat's tossbag what happens in the so called "good old US of A"

This thread would be better if we ignore them and concentrate on what's really happening with the Corona virus in the normal world.

Peter.