cos its the law.
it used to be that if it had 3 or more walls it was considerd a habitable structure and you had to get buildign aproval and get a builder to build it.
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cos its the law.
it used to be that if it had 3 or more walls it was considerd a habitable structure and you had to get buildign aproval and get a builder to build it.
That's right, it's the law. I don't make the laws so it doesn't matter why, but it is the way it is. If you are up for some light reading, check out the 638 pages of the Integrated Planning Act 97 here http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LE...tegPlanA97.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by InterTD6
Cheers,
WILL
Well today I talked to the consulting engineers who told me to talk to the architects who told me to make an appointment:rolleyes:
Just wait till you get to the bit where you go to the council/shire
Rang our local shire council on Tuesday to see a person in Planning that i had been told to "chat" to by the local polititian
chain of events from here
Ring shire about 9.10 am - can i see *** ***** - told she was in meeting but would be out at 11 am - can i make an appointment - dont need one - so i turn up at 10.50 - sorry you can only talk to the "duty" officer not the person you were told to talk too - Ok ( i need to get this through council) so i see her and leave 1 hour later from what i thought was a meaningful meeting - As i'm leaving she says you should make an appointment to see *** ****** - I didnt say anything but coincidently that was the person i wanted to see in the first place - How do i make an appoinment - she's out so ring later and ask for *** ***** - so home i go ring up later and she's still not in - can i make an appoinment - you dont need one - yes i do - then you need to talk to her - so can she ring me back as i am only home from work this week - Thursday morning 9.10 i get a call from her and an appoinment is made for 12 noon Friday -
In the meantime i ring a consultant on planning - yes i can help you - yes i am a councillor on that shiire - yes it is a conflict of interest but if it goes to council meeting i just exit chambers when the subjest comes up - i am not going through this process to not get the permit so would i be better off if you were in the room voting - yes possibly - should i get another consultant to do this - you might be better too but you should see *** ****** at the council first -
can hardly wait for the rest of this episode - it could be the resurecction of MONTY PYTHON.
Good luck Andrew but you could learn more from this episode than all the time you spent at school.
Cheers
Just read the QLD BSA site for builders licence requirements & a licence is required for all classes of buildings, there could be hope yet as there is talk of a national licence scheme which could level out the extreme licencing of QLD, to none required in TAS
regards inter
Don't want to scare you off Funky, but you have no idea what you are in for throughout this whole process. Sorting out all the pre-liminary junk is the worst of it, that's for sure. There are many stupid rules and technicalities that need to be followed just to get approval. Hence why builders (and shed builders) exist as they take the hassle out the whole process and get it done. Good luck bloke!Quote:
Originally Posted by funkychicken
Cheers,
WILL
The council's a pain, I think everyone knew that already:wink:
By the time I get it past council I'll probably have saved up the $10000 or so to pay for the thing:roll:
I'm booked in with the Building Designers on the 14th, I'll officially be starting the shed:D:D:D:D Well...sort of:wink:
Well I talked to the Building Designers today. They did up a few sketches and will email me a draft in a few weeks.
$990 for the plans
Andrew, this vacant workshop is currently unused (Batemans Bay area) no planning problems were needed when built and if any buracrat starts now I am sure he could be seen off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...lbum/35w-3.jpg
Best of luck with your venture.
nothin a couple of old sheets of iron wouldnt fix.
Cheers
What a Beauty:2tsup: I'll take itQuote:
Originally Posted by jow104
In real estate speak: Handymans delight. This delightful building has plenty of natural light with 360 degree views .
Perfectly ventilated to cure any dust problem.
For further details apply jow104 for viewing.:):;
or use google link for viewing area drag mouse on screen.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?t=h&hl...59.998466&z=19
In a beautiful bushland setting:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by
$990 later I have the plans! There's going to be alot more timber involved than I thought...
Do you want those bits back you gave me?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by funkychicken
Mate, one of the immutable rules of beauracracy is the that there will be a lot more of everything than you thought----time, money, materials, forms, headaches.:rolleyes::rolleyes::DQuote:
Originally Posted by funkychicken
Hundred percent spot on Arthur:2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by artme
You know with all the drafting talent on this forum I am surprised no-one could draw some simple plans up for young FC.
The reason there was alot more timber is because the designer drew up a bomb shelter instead of my shed. Everything is oversize, I'm going back tomorrow to sort it out.
My first estimate (an educated one of course) was about $8500 for the timber, the new price is $13151, with steel posts instead of timber.
They're good plans, the member sizing is just overkill
Your lucky to get timber sizes on a plan, usually its " timber frame to AS 1684" ( which you can still go to & disregard any sizes indicated ) why it has steel posts is a mystery ( unless you have a lot of wide openings with little or no wall areas between )
regards inter
He is probably conforming to the code in your area.
I talked to the designers again today, they'd designed the shed as if it had a concrete roof (because I told them I'd be hanging timber etc. off the rafters) So the rafters were 225x50 at 600mm centres, the plates and studs were 100x50 at 450mm centres, plus a ribbon plate (100x38)
The rafters will now be 175x50 at 900 centres. The plates and studs, 75x50 at 450mm centres and no ribbon plate.
Sizes;
Bearers 200x75/2.4m at 2.2m centres
Joists 150x50/2.2m at 450mm centres
Plates 75x50
Studs 75x50/3.0m at 450mm centres
Rafters 175x50/4.0m at 900mm centres
Collar Ties 75x50
Ridge Board 225x25