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Respect your right to have a say, Bleedin, but if you've got no patience for rgum using the forumites as a sounding board, don't read the thread, put him on your ignore list or whatever.
Please refrain from insulting other forum members.
Cheers.....................Sean
Tony, read my previous advice again mate.
CHeers
Good advice. I think john is on the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc
If your going to stay then schedule a meeting and all sit down and sort it out. Forget the blame game, "what do we need to do to sort this out?".
I had a situation once where a few comments that I took wrongly had me thinking the whole team were against me until a mate pulled me aside and set me straight. May not be the same but worth a thought.
Once again forget any compensation thoughts. Money aint worth the stress and mental damage.
best of luck
I can change jobs and the same thing is gonig to happen to me.......IF........I don't change " my " attitude, and just ignore the bastards as they come at me. Then they'll see I don't respond and I'll be better off. This is good. I have known of this for a lifetime.
My darling just ripped my ears off and she's totally correct.
It's not about me. They'll just do it to the nxt person anyway.
Maybe the boss wasn't gonna come over to me and abuse me for being what he thought was me being disrespectful......BUT!..... I had to tell him. What if I didn't??????
What if I didn't????????????
So and so lied in saying something else that I didn't say. I should have approached the boss calmly and told him instead of screaming.
I will get nowhere with the legal pursuit she sais. Cause I react and scream when humiliated. Childish huh?
I am making notes and recalling other events.
Don't think my partner will be happy though.
How the bloody hell am I expected to let these bastards do as they please? You see how you'd go when they've done these shirty things to you! On and on and on and on. Yeah right!!!!!!!!. You won't take legal action or physical action? Tell me you wouldn't react.
People are soooo god damn imature and have nothing to give them pleasure other than to harrass others.
I'm sooo peeed off that I can't do something to tell them that they are really pathetic. I've told the CEO to DO something many, many many ,many times.
After yesterdays events my CEO told me..." if it's about so and so, I don't wanna know about it".
How's that???? huh??????
It's fair to penalise someone if they are causing you grief after several warnings. I feel like they are going to get away with it. I feel like it's not fair. I lose...... they win. I shouldn't have screamed. They are allowed to conduct themselves in this way???????
I intend to write a profile on working in a factory culture.
Not to be posted I promise you, ha he. :C
I know I am responsible for the way I react. I can help myself to some degree and maybe then....I will suffer little grief at work. Where ever I work.
Again I appologise for my PATHETIC behaviour. To you all.
To stop it....... is a start. My darling girl is right.
But it's bloody hard not to respond. Really!!!!!
And many of you have advised me with such sentiment.
Maybe ....just maybe I'll post something about woodwork ,ha he :o
I am glad that I've not been berrated on this site. Or banned. :C Gawwwwd.
Goodnite......Tony :U
Tony, your present situation cannot be repaired; too much water over the dam. Get a new position IMMEDIATELY. Waiting until you're out of debt? Hell's bells, most of us will never be out of debt. Flip hamburgers for a while if you must. Upover here, McD's awards gold(ish) pins for SIX MONTH's duration.
For future reference, though, your latest response might use some improvement. Is your nemesis a DESIGNATED pipeline from/to the boss? E.g. a supervisor? If not, you have no obligation to believe anything he says. As Wendy suggests, a blank stare is the best response. If the company relies on such sloppy communication, it's a pizz-poor way to run a business, and it's their problem, not yours.
Joe
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Originally Posted by rgum
:(( don't applogise. Thats just pathetic ! grow up and stop being such a winger :wink:
Don't worry about Bleeding thumb. He's just sexually frustrated. That panel saw guy and your boss as well. No doubt about it.
Happens occationally. Your stuck in the middle of a bunch of blokes who just need a bit of nouke. Probably been years for some of them and they don't even know why there cranky. I'm not joking either. Have you ever seen a bloke cross the morning after ?
Jeez Ripper. Everything is coming clear now. :rolleyes: :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by apricotripper
RGum,
Another couple of suggestions. Take some time away from work. Clear your head. Take a good long hard look at yourself. Be totally and brutally honest with yourself (no one else has to be involved with this, or know)
How much of my actions may have brought this on myself.
Would I treat someone else like they have if that person acted the same way I have been behaving?
Do I like the way I have been behaving?
If not, what are the warning signs that I'm about to behave that way?
How would I prefer to handle those situations?
Visualise yourself in various situations and how you'd like to behave and visualise yourself getting the result or outcome you want.
what goes around comes around.
Act, behave and speak in the way you'd like others to interact with you.
You can't change anyone else, you can only change yourself and only if you work at it and want it.
Most of all, don't give up, just when it is at it's very hardest, that is when you are so close to breaking through and achieving what you want.
Cheers
Wendy
Wendy has an excellent handle on it.
Here's a plan of action.
Don't go to another job just yet. It is possible that until you figure out why you are a target, you might become a target at the next job and the next job and the next job.
From now on, treat your current workplace as a laboratory where you can do research and conduct experiments on your behaviour along the line of what Wendy said. Get to the bottom of the problem by understanding yourself and honing up on reaction strategies. In this way, you are not risking burning new bridges.
Once you have conducted all your trials and done some fine tuning on your new techniques using your current colleagues as guinea pigs, you will be in a good position to move to your next job.
You will also have the satisfaction of knowing that the fools who were having a negative impact on you in fact did you a big favour.
In other words, leave your problems with the current work place and don’t carry them to the next job. These problems are heavy and uncomfortable to carry so start releasing them now.
Some people would not have had these problems if they did the same job in the your current workplace. Why? Figure it out and then leave so that the rest of your life can be occupied with positives.
Hmmm.... iot would seem that my suggestion that the gentleman in question show some sign of being just that, a man, was deleted..... fiddle dee dee and tosh!
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Originally Posted by apricotripper
Well being married for 10 years can do that to you.:p
:D ya poor bugger. can relate.
I will be finally writing a formal letter to my CEO about panel saw persons malicious behaviour, on FRI.
Today, again; he was openly declaring what he would do to stuff me up. Mant times he openly sais these things.
Two others just laughed as he made his declaration.
Ordering White board for tmmrrw knowing I have not time to unload it from the truck. I am very busy finishing off two great k'tchens for Mon morn. We have plenty white board till Wed nxt week. Bastard !.
Thankyou for all the great advice. I know your sick of me. :C
Tony.
Only you know your employment prospects, so take that into consideration whatever you do. Most people need a job... I am not a lawyer or harassment expert, so if you find my advice is broken, you get to keep both pieces :)
If you can get another job easily, deliver an ultimatum in writing to the boss and the apprentice to cut it out or you're out of there. If they don't cut it out, Go get another job. Simple.
If you don't think you would get a job easily, you still have to do something, so for starters, start looking around. Plan to get another job. You might just find a better job with not much hassle, and then you can get out of the abusive situation and improve your lot. Changing employment is daunting, but getting out from under a cloud like this is important for you own well being.
In any case, start a diary of the events as they occur, and get ready to go see a workplace harassment official. Tell the boss and the apprentice what you are doing. Let them know you are sick of it, and you will take action. Best bet is to do this with a letter, delivered and explained to the boss by you in the presence of a witness (someone you know who is not an employee or close friend of the boss or apprentice). Tell the boss that you expect him to behave, and you expect him to control the apprentice's behavior as well. They may moderate their behavior, or it might get worse. The boss may try and sack you! You have to be prepared to carry out your threat in these cases, so don't start this if you are not prepared to follow through.
Ultimately, as soon as you start standing up to these bullies, you are going to change the relationship. It's not going to be nice. Things will get worse, and a lot of stress will happen, and you will have to be firm. You have to show them that you are stronger than them.
A new job is the easy solution.
Hope that helps!
woodbe.