You still watch TV?
Yep sometimes:D you cant miss mythbusters and top gear:D
do you think I got 4000 post up in 5 years by watching TV?:no:
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You still watch TV?
Yep sometimes:D you cant miss mythbusters and top gear:D
do you think I got 4000 post up in 5 years by watching TV?:no:
cheers
Spot on, Groggy. English has been in a constant state of evolution for centuries. Anyone who thinks there is some form of 'pure' English is kidding themselves. Even in England (actually, on reflection, especially in England) there are literally hundreds of accents and dialects within the language. Some of them quite unintelligible to people from outside small regional locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Groggy
The other important point, of course, is that English isn't owned by the English. It's been a worldwide language for a very long time.
My favorite hate? People who use those front and rear fog lights when the is no B*****y fog. I feel like getting out of the car at traffic lights and smashing them. Also people who do not thank for a favour done. There are some of us here who have a little exchange system going and it works because we acknowledge the favour with one of our own. This is just common courtesy which sadly seems to be dying.
I like the fog lights on country roads, the help show up the pot holes. :2tsup:
Amen! A lot of these people think they are driving lights and don't realise it actually REDUCES your night vision because it puts a high intensity spot close to the car, reducing your depth vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mini
The "why do I bother" thought is the enemy of forums like this. It kills the free exchange spirit that brought us together in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Shed
95% of the time I have no idea who I've responded to. I only read the body of the message and pay little attention to who it is. Not necessarily a very personal approach, but hard to hold a grudge if you can't remember who to hold a grudge against... In the past I used to remember those I didn't care for but ultimately it's a waste of time and energy. I have far too many negative thoughts in my head now and don't want to add to them.
You also have to remember that this is a very impersonal place to converse with others. Essentially all you're doing is responding to a computer screen. If you're like me and are a social retard under normal in person situations it's most likely that you're online etiquette is less perfect. The way I see it, it's impossible to know the sincerity or motivation of others here and will default to simply not making judgments.
I've got extra front lights set low into the bumper [Falcon XR6] but these are not fog lights - fog lights on the front of a car are yellow - they are an extra driving light which does fill in under the main beams and does help on our "fantastic country roads" :roll: . I don't have a problem with people using them and don't find them a hinderance when coming towards me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mini
Now, if you are talking real driving lights - I used to run 2 Cibe Oscars on an alloy bull bar - these would sunburn the neck of the driver in front at 400 metres if you were so inclined - but most of us country types would never do that - the only time that appears to happen is when the "Queen Street Tractors" venture out of the city.
The rear fog light, as I understand it, is actually an extra bright red light which should make the car in front able to be seen in poor light conditions and should not be used unless necessary - I'm led to believe that they have been eliminated from many imports as not being necessary in Australia.
The lights under the front bar get the generic term of foglights and I still hate them, no matter what they are called. I too live and travel in the bush and I just don't get the need. As for driving lights I have two Super Oscars and two Hella 1357's. Daylight on high beam with the 130 watt headlights.
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Originally Posted by Bob38S
You are correct. A single red light on the right hand cluster controlled by a switch on the dash that many idiots seems unable to locate to switch the thing off when there is no fog. They are mandatory in England - maybe Europe too. It is an offence not to use them I recall. Actually, not a bad idea, provided they aren't left bloody on!
Couldn't help but respond to those who hate americanisms. America is composed of two continents, north and south, containing dozens of countries and languages. But I must say, I'm getting truly sick of the ever creeping influences of Ecuadorean styles into our sentence structures. And what about those Bolivians with their namby pamby shoes...or were you perhaps refering to the Costa Ricans?
I think we all need to realize that we are at a cusp in socialogical history. I'm certain that the ultimate influence of the web and mass media into international language, culture, styles , ect. cannot even be guessed at presently. When I consider the changes wrought, just in my lifetime, by first radio (yes I can remember our first TV(Dang I'm getting too old!)) then television, I can only imagine what will come to pass.
Unfortunately, those cultures with the loudest (I don't necessarily mean better) voice will be heard and repeated the most.
Try and explain that to a Canadian after they've ripped your head off for calling them an American :pQuote:
America is composed of two continents, north and south
What you have to understand is that traditonally our culture has been derived from the poms and we associate with it intellectuality, morality, polite manners, and correct speech. However in the last couple of decades, chiefly through the mediums of television and Hollywood, we have seen a general move away from this towards the cultural output of the US. Personally, I'm sorry to say, I regard this as a bad thing because attention seeking idiots and gang members seem to have become our idols.
I know there is more depth to American culture than B-list celebs and rappers but for some reason you seem to be very good at exporting them to the detriment of the rest of the world. I know the answer is to switch off the TV, which is the course that I take. But it's like Pandora's box and once opened it cannot be closed.
Thank god we can get Yes Minister and Blackadder on DVD. :)
Just understand, mass media, or for that matter mass anything, panders to the lowest comon denominator. Sweeping generalizations are devisive and play into that same denominator. If you don't care for the present media in the US, imagine what it's like surrounded by it here. I stopped watching almost all TV years ago (I must admit to an addiction to one weekly PBS program) and only listen to shortwave and Pacifica radio broadcasts. What I was trying to say is that media is now truly global and eventually cultural distinctions will become only quaint color used to describe ourselves (much like when I tell people I'm Cajun American). We will all be eating the same things, speaking the same language, wearing the same clothes made by the same sweatshop worker, and the only truly unique things in any of our lives will be that which we create ourselves.
I have watched this happen during my lifetime here, seen it spread to Canada, and am seeing it happen in Mexico now. It's just a matter of time.
:C
Yet on a microcosmic level, I was just considering today how people make big differences out of small things. For example, a girl who I played in a band with last year, but left due to other commitments, is promoting her new band in the local paper. She describes herself as local born and bred and you often hear her speaking of this as though it makes her somehow special. Don't get me wrong, it's good to be proud of where you came from, but there is a group of people here, and she is one of them, who implies by this that she is somehow better than other people who have come to the area. In fact, they are the ones who have chosen to live here, whereas she had no choice in it at all.
So my point is that even though you will get the blurring you are speaking of, you are always going to have people who "where here first" or "did it first". I think that we as a race will always find ways to differentiate ourselves from others. We are tribal by nature.
As I said, quaint color. An accent, perhaps some ethnic cuisine, but in a meaningful social context...no substansive difference.
Hmm, I don't know about that. I can't imagine a world where people couldn't manage to find enough differences between themselves and others to start a war over...Quote:
no substansive difference
We don't all have access to the Internet and a free media and the way things are going, do you really think that's likely to change? What you say may be true for "the West" but we only make up a fraction of the global population.
Good point. Of course over here we seem to be able to create reasons to start wars when no good reason exists. Realize that the same powers who benifit from our eating Mcgarbage and wearing Tomy Gofigure also benifit from creating chaos where order would cut into the bottom line.
As an aside, I think we need to start a new thread on this topic.
Also, I'm on the other side of this rock and tis much past the witching hour and my kettle needs another eft eye and a good stir. In the morrow.:wink:
"Oh my god, it's me under this car...and I don't look at all well."
Rocky Rococo
I think something needs to be clarified here.
We don't dislike americans generaly, just some of them and the popular culture associated with them........& I supose ther are plenty of americans that feel exactly the same.
But conside if you will the entire american braodcasting system being taken over by Steve Irwin, Paul Hogan, russel Crowe and a consortium of the less couth mates. The result being that 60% of you commercial television and radio was filled with, Crikey:o , strewth:; , crack us a tube mate, where the blody hell are you and such like.
and you have some idea what it is like here, that isn't what we talk like or look like but of a lot of the world thinks we do.
Yeh mate we understand you don't like it either..... but hey thats what we 've got.
Thats problay why we are interested in wood work......neither the wood or the tools care what you look or sound like... hey they don't even care what you call them.
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hey noboody has paid out on the kiwi's or the french or the poms yet.:q
A truly frightening thought. :oo: :oo: We would think it cute for about 2 days, then the sh*t would start!Quote:
Originally Posted by soundman
So why, if I may be so bold as to inquire, do not the Australian TV folks produce more local content? Too expensive? Too risky? :?
footy shows are cheaper to make
your guess is as good as mine.
its problay cheaper and easier to buy stale old rope from overseas.:~
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I don't know I've seen some pretty cool stuff on IFC out of OZ. I guess what I was trying to say, is that already the mass media is umbiquitous in the west and increasingly so elsewhere, pervading every aspect of our lives if we let it. I recently read an article saying that every US citizen is exposed to 2000 advertisements an hour (the actual nos. somewhere in this area). As I have seen with people who spend hours in front of the tube or any mainstream media become tools of that same media, parroting what the've heard. Nothing original is heard from their mouths. After all, we are monkeys from our birthright and monkey see, monkey do. It is much easier to let others decide your opinions for you.
Seen the other day on the bumper of a Hummer: What would Jesus drive?
Obviously people would rather not think.
Sounds like a really great setup - the super Oscars were a little too big for me as they would not fit into the available space on the bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mini
As to the use/non-use of "foglights"
"horses for courses" - I guess.
Ahh quasi religeous bumber stickers.:~
very rarely to they match the "facts".
back to the question
Because Jesus was a poor carpenter........ just like us and his earthly old man ( joseph ) who ran the family business has a heap of children to support.
While he was workinh in the family business he probaly would have driven the old mans ute (pick up) which wouldn't have been flash, thats if the old man let him drive it.
once he went walkabout.... nothin'..... from what we are told he had the clothes on his back and not much more.
Crikey.... he had to borrow a donkey to make an entrance into Jerusalem & it seems he wasn't driving that.
So that would translate to a lift in the back of a ute ( pickup). from memory Simon Peter would have been driving.
Now a real interesting question would be........ how did Jesus sharpen?:;
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No doubt quite carefully.:U
To go in a slightly different direction.........
:((
The frequency of advertisement breaks as well as the number of them.
Was laid up for a while recently and watched some TV - out of desperation.......
Daytime TV - could not believe we could have sunk so low in content + intelligence
With a stop/start, stopwatch - time the ads or the program - you will probably be surprised [perhaps not :no:] as to the content when you have the actual figures.
Current Affairs - more like backyard affairs as to who is having it off with whom or who can we stir up for a good camera reaction.
TV stations who do not stick to advertised start/stop times.
Presenters who think they are God's gift to society. :no::no:
ABC TV and their "Clayton's advertisements" which are only self promotion.
The plethora of "reality" shows - if this is reality, we really need a check up. Does anyone actually watch this drivel [no offense to the Friday group]
I could go on but this is probably enough :B
one of the things that irks me (and there are many) is the sense of outrage that current affairs reporters/prsenters beam to us thru the tube. I mean just who do they think that they are kidding ? Do they really beleive that we believe they are personnally outraged by some @rseho!e missusing a disabled sticker on his car ? HINT - we know they dont give a rats!!!
I think the absolute lowlight was naiomi and the reptile on her khaki shirt at irwins death. I also feel that that other great bastion of integrity Richard carlton was a past master of pretention and pretending to care for the sake of a scandal and a headline.
@rseho!es the lot of 'em. shoot 'em all.
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Originally Posted by Zed
Well, at least, let's take them in for questioning. Can't believe anyone would disagree with that approach. :2tsup:
Quite right Sir. One needs to be flexible and to adopt local customs when abroad. Yes indeed. But with regard to local content, we got plenty of that here, but you wouldn't want to watch it (and I am not referring to the Goddam ads that seem to be cheap to produce and nearly free to air - so better make them 30% of content. What happened to $1m a minute. That'd sort things out). Give me 400 channels to hunt through any day. Rant Rant.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundman
People who hijack threads. :~Quote:
What's your pet aversion?
By the way, has anyone got the new Harry Potter book yet? :2tsup:
wife has almost finished reading it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruddigar
My daughter started early saturday evening and eleven hours later had finished it and then went to bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruddigar
Peter.
Is this the Harry Potter thread now ??? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruddigar
Cheers
BD:2tsup:
P.S. I finished it Yesterday...good read :D