Alex I'm shocked you'll upset the Greens by supporting meat lovers & polluting the environment with gases produced after eating said sausage & onion sanga. Will the cake be Vegan?Quote:
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Alex I'm shocked you'll upset the Greens by supporting meat lovers & polluting the environment with gases produced after eating said sausage & onion sanga. Will the cake be Vegan?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
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The childcare centre BBQ had Veggie burgers in 2013 and we're in a fairly conservative electorateQuote:
Originally Posted by wheelinround
I suggested some time back that the best way to respond to radical animal rights activists invading private property would be to invest in substantial quantities of australian meat products and consume them with smug delight in the company of family and friends.
Australians vote for staibility above all else. In 76 Fraser was the most hated man in australia but he didn't just win that election it was one of the biggest landslides in our federal history. The people could put up with Whitlam's communist inclinations, but not the utter chaos his government brought. He literally couldn't... manage a business transaction with a lady of the night.
What amuses me more is the left's relentless attempts to reinvent the Hawke years. He led the most radical right wing government in our history and their fanatical embrace of economic rationalism tore our society apart. Poverty and extreme wealth both doubled between 1984 and 1994 (BOS). Real wages went backwards, the unions amalgamated and became less representative and a small group of "entrepreneurs" were let loose on us to pillage the country leaving the middle and working class to pay the bill when the music stopped.
Perception is a remarkable thing. I know intelligent and articulate people who actually believe labor is the friend to the working class and protector of the vulnerable and others who actually believe the coalition are better economic managers. If you account their track records, what they have done rather than what they claim, there isn't a cigarette papers width between them.
South park summed it up best, but it's too rude to type here...
Hawke taking his party so far to the right is what we have to blame for the Greens getting any traction at all in the political sphere.Quote:
Originally Posted by damian
In the Hawke era we had the choice of two Liberal parties and no Labor party. The true "Lefties" who did not follow Hawke's Labor to the right on the back of Bob's "charisma" jumped ship and got behind the Greens.
Likewise, for similar reasons. I live in a blue ribbon Liberal seat. When the liberals are in power we are ignored because they think they are never going to lose it. When Labor is in, they know they'll never win it. the only hope is to make the seat marginal. I always vote for an independent or minor party, with 2nd preference to Labor, not because I necessarily want them in, but to try to reduce the Liberal margin.Quote:
So since I was 18 I've always voted independent or minor party.
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Now that's unfair Doug. The Skipper didn't wear glasses and Gilligan wasn't a wingnut.
Bummer. And here I was just about to tell everyone to have a collective uprising over Section 43 of the Trade Practices Act....Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidG
Exactly. The Democracy Sausage is important!Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
Who would deny the masses the chance to get the Democracy Sausage forcibly jammed in them by a politician!
Take the Sausage, Citizen!
You might as well tell us. We're all going to Hell for this thread anyway. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by woodPixel
Peronally I'd like to stick roughly to the original topic which is about "early voting". If too much politics creeps in the mods will shut it down.
I think early voting is terrific. Why the majors leave their campaign "launch" three weeks after the circus starts, goodness only knows. OK so I miss out on a sausage but I can always get one at Bunnies. BTW I did have a valid reason to pre-poll.
I suspect the result is going to be closer than the media seem to think.
mick
Section 43 of the Trade Practices Act.... Member of Tribunal ceasing to be available.Quote:
Originally Posted by doug3030
Just like our politicians ceasing To Be :)
My joke was perhaps too esoteric. I'm like that.....
I voted yesterday. The voting place was in an otherwise vacant shop so the leaflet "hander outers" had to stand near the gutter and it was possible to avoid them and take only the one of interest. Way to go. :2tsup:
Oh that's easy, the rules change once your elections campaign has officially started. The parties have to pay for more stuff themselves. From memory they can book travel to the taxpayer until the official launch and probably things like flyers and advertising come out of our pockets not theirs. I can't remember the details but no doubt someone will find an online reference...Quote:
Originally Posted by Glider
How to find your democracy sausage
https://democracysausage.org
Not according to last night's "the Drum"Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
up to 5 WA seats are in play at this election -- that's almost 1/3 of all WA seats. Unless the "we've had a gut full" delivers a resounding victory to one party, then WA could well determine the outcome of the election.
Yeah I saw that and other similar claims. My reading of the tea leaves is that if anything the most likely scenario in WA will be some seat swapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
Good to see we are putting resources into what really matters. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BobL
We get B&E rolls with some excellent relish which is also for sale. :2tsup:
UWent and voted this morning. About 20 others had the same idea :D
The scrutineer signed me off on a computer which only took seconds the find me and verified I hadn’t voted before. I asked him was this new and he said computers are only used on pre polling - on Election day they go back to the paper based method :oo:
How archaic is that?
I agree - poor use of technology but given the way the census went I don't blame them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lappa
I bet Hauwei could do it :D
They still cross check later if you have voted twice
From a ABC new report
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Mr Diak said there was no evidence of organised multiple voting in Australia, but the AEC checks and compares voter lists at the end of every election."We compare all of the voter lists at the conclusion of the election and we identify any non-voters or any other apparent dual marks where a person may have voted twice," he said.
If someone is suspected of voting more than once, they'll be contacted by the AEC and asked to explain.
If there's evidence they did so intentionally, the matter will be referred to the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and they could face a hefty fine or imprisonment.
In 2013, around 7,700 cases of suspected multiple voting were referred to the AFP, but no-one was prosecuted
Wife & I did pre poll voting last week as we will be interstate on Election day and it was so much quicker than lining up on the day. As for the How to Vote cards....I reject all of them and as they try to pass me a leaflet, I politely say "Thank you but I'm 60 yo next week..this is not my first rodeo and I know how to fill out a ballot paper by now"
Voted early - way to go....
....early on the day, that is :;
Pulled up at 7:59, parked right at the gate, and there was only one blowfly there! She was a Bluebottle so maybe that shows extra commitment, or perhaps desperation?
Using the ABC news site yesterday I was able to write down my voting preferences and take it with me. There might have been 15 people before me, so after perhaps 2 minutes in the Q I had my forms, and because I had worked out what I wanted to do I only had to stand at the cardboard desk for about a minute (most of which was wrestling the Senate form into submission).
So out for a B&E roll in record time, and bugger me they weren't ready yet! Had to go and buy some milk and return - running the blowfly brigade again - and got my B&E which was truly excellent.
I noted that by then (8:40) there was no Q at all to vote, but the Greenbottles and Red Weevils had arrived - musta bin the smell of bacon. Very pleasing to see that there were no Giant Yellow Robber Flies there (can't believe how appropriate that name is...except they have a slender abdomen), nor any Flame Skimmer Orange Dragonflies (another singularly appropriate name) and no other parasitic Wasps.
Maybe the lack of Qs is a function of so many people pre-polling this time, but I sure hope all those early votes don't slow down Antony Green tonight.
MAY THE BEST MAN WIN!
No, wait, there is no best man.
Our family legend has it that on voting day Grand Father would wait until 2 minutes before closing to register his "deciding vote" so the right party would be "in"
This is an email I sent to a mate in Spain just now, and bears repeating here.
This is quite remarkable: it's exactly half a century since the Don's Party Election of 1969! (ok, 49½ years)
Have a look at this news article, and watch the vids.
"That board is wrong!"
I'll say that board was wrong. 62 to Labor, 47 to Coalition, and 14 in doubt meant that Labor only had to pick up one more seat to win (125 seats then, compared to 151 now).
What in fact happened was that not only did all of those 14 in doubt go to the Coalition, but 3 of Labor's 62 seats also went to them, and Gough missed out by 4 seats. No other parties or Independents won seats - just Labor and Coalition.
Here are some stats I put together. Fraser holds the top two places for the % of seats won.
# SEATS ALP Coalition OTHERS Majority % SEATS 1961 122 60 62 2 51% 1963 124 52 72 20 58% 1966 124 41 82 1 40 66% 1969 125 59 66 7 53% 1972 125 67 58 9 54% 1974 127 66 61 5 52% 1975 127 36 90 1 53 71% 1977 124 38 85 1 46 69% 1980 125 51 74 23 59% 1983 125 75 50 25 60% 1984 148 82 65 1 16 55% 1987 148 86 62 24 58% 1990 148 78 69 1 8 53% 1993 147 80 64 2 13 54% 1996 148 49 93 6 38 63% 1998 148 67 80 1 12 54% 2001 150 65 81 4 12 54% 2004 150 60 86 4 22 57% 2007 150 83 65 2 16 55% 2010 150 72 72 6 -6 48% 2013 150 55 90 5 30 60% 2016 150 69 76 5 2 51% 2019 151 We're working on it :D
This was in the front yard of a neighbour down the road. Perfect summary of modern politics.
Note in the table above Fraser's victory of 75. One of the biggest wins in our history by what was then the most hated man in Australia. Australians vote for stability above all else.
I think it was P J Keating who said "In a two horse race, always back self interest".Quote:
Originally Posted by damian
mick