Oops, so it wasn't about sandpaper then?
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Oops, so it wasn't about sandpaper then?
But it is about rubbing people the wrong way
This thread seems to have petered out somewhat.
Yes, it seemed to dry up when everyone was patting each-other on the back for good behaviour and maturity :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cava
Go figure.
The quite before the storm. I wouldn't count any chickens yet, there's a way to go to see the true story to emerge and the true characters of all the protagonists to emerge. It's all a big game of chess or poker and smoke and mirrors at the moment.
Wait until the infection of tourism hits.
They will regret it then!
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This is sounds a bit like the joke about the Greek parachutist. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by doug3030
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In the interest of adding to this thread, following is a link to a conference on the Theory of Evolution.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/print-magazine/item/29183-international-scientific-conference-deems-evolution-a-hoax
I'm always puzzled by the assertion that Creation/Evolution and, more generally, G-d/Science must be mutually exclusive
True. Although an agnostic myself, it seems to me that if there is a 'God' the easiest way to create the universe would be to set up the scientific rules by which it operates.Quote:
Originally Posted by elanjacobs
And that didn’t happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
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Well, there certainly are rules,even if we don't know all of them yet. Were they set by a God? That we don't know. If there is, who created Him/Her? I guess we won't ever know until it's too late.
How about the rules are god? Gravity, the strong and weak nuclear forces, and electromagnetism and their relative strengths basically what happens across the physical and chemical universe. "Feeeeel the force".Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
On another topic. Anyone else cynical enough to see how the Trump/Kim interaction has been staged by Russia and China to make Trump look good and keep him in the running for the next election?
What's cynical about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
That's not a valid question for the same reason that "what was before the big bang?" is not valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexS
You're talking about something before the concept of time existed, when there is no before or after, it just IS. It's totally outside of human experience.
I certainly can't wrap my head around it, maybe someone else out there can
The whole question of what is time is an interesting one. Recently there has been an Italian physicist/philosopher (Carlo Rovelli) on Radio National giving some talks about the nature of time. He reckons time and time line is a human construct - there's only what's going on right now to an individual and there's no such thing as past or future time. If you want to do your head in, try listening to him, he also has plenty of youtube vids - it takes him a long time (ha ha) to say relatively little.Quote:
Originally Posted by elanjacobs
If the earth didn't rotate on its axis while orbiting the sun, would there be time? I was created and after a period, I will die. So time does not need to be measured to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
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Well, Trump does appear to be making more progress than his predecessors.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
We would have to develop a different method of measuring itQuote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon
Time is a human construct in the sense that we are the only species to measure it and to use it to describe the world; it would still exist if there was no-one or no reason to measure it, it just wouldn't matter.
It's also unique because it's the one part of nature that we can't interact with.
I guess you could say it doesn't "exist" because there's nothing physical to observe, but I would contend that it's still a very real part of existence.
That’s an interesting concept, Time as a part of nature. I think it exists because everything dies.Quote:
Originally Posted by elanjacobs
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I contend hat Trump is only making as much progress as russia and china will allow. They after all pull the NK strings.Quote:
Originally Posted by cava
Surely, time is simply a measure of change.
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A change of what?Quote:
Originally Posted by TermiMonster
If you stand on the earth in most places you will see day and night, so one could say that sunlight is changing and call it a day but if you stand on the north and south pole you see something different and if you're somewhere in space outside the earths shadow you'll never see it change.
The tenants are not looking after the "property".....they going to be kicked out!
Possibly the most rational answer.Quote:
How about the rules are god? Gravity, the strong and weak nuclear forces, and electromagnetism and their relative strengths basically what happens across the physical and chemical universe.
Yebbut that is all he wants - the appearance. I doubt he cares anything for an actual result, as long as he has something to twit about. Something to keep him on the front page. "It's how I am, it's what I do (I'm just the greatest human being ever)". Oh puh-lease.Quote:
Originally Posted by cava
The long game is how this guy should be judged and evaluated. Anything else is just falling for his bullsh.
Powerful nations and powerful people have manoeuvered and manipulated situations to their own advantage since time immemorial so I have little reason to believe that the likes of the Chinese and the Russians are doing what the Americans and before them the British have done in the past. The Russians, the Chinese, the Americans, the North Vietnamese and Donald will very likely end up with what they deserve and realise too late the wisdom of choosing wisely the people with whom they sleep.
See my signature below, which has been there for many years now, to gauge my perception of the matter.
Regards
Paul
As far as the universe is concerned I have just never been able to get my head around how it started. It does not really matter what theory to which you subscribe you have to ask "Where did that come from?" "What was there before?" The only sensible answer to that is that we don't know and never will know. The scientists say that nothing is created or destroyed. Ultimately can that be right?
Regards
Paul
Except for this theory:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
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Originally Posted by Douglas Adams
Or another theory:
On the first day, the Flying Spaghetti Monster separated the water from the heavens. On the second -- because He could not tread water for long and had grown tired of flying -- He created the land and complemented it with a Beer Volcano. Satisfied, the Flying Spaghetti Monster overindulged in beer from the Beer Volcano and woke up hungover. Between drunken nights and clumsy afternoons, the Flying Spaghetti Monster produced seas and land (for a second time, because He forgot that He created it the day before) along with Heaven and a midget, which He named Man. Man and an equally short woman lived happily in the Olive Garden of Eden for some time until the Flying Spaghetti Monster caused a global flood in a cooking accident. (While emptying His Holy Pasta Pot of water, He did not pay attention to where this water was going.)
Consider this explanation also:
"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
Lords and Ladies; Terry Pratchett
(Gasp) you quote the Gospel, were you touched by his noodly appendage and thus became a Pastafarian?Quote:
Originally Posted by doug3030
Always was, is and will always be and the human race try as it might will never get the answer this side of eternity
Mmm, the holy gospel.
Beer volcanos... And Christmas parking spots at the front of shopping centres.
Such mightiness!! Ramen!
Whatever you want it to be. eg, the sun comes up, moves across the sky, goes down, etc. We agree to call that a day. which we agreed to break down to hours, minutes, etc for convenience. Without us, agreeing to these things, and measuring them as accurately as we can, etc, they would not exist. ie there is no such thing as a minute, except that we, for convenience, create it as a measure of a proportion of 1 day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobL
There is, in fact, only 1 time, and that is this instant. The past is only memory, and the future only what we imagine, or predict (based on memory of the past).
Maybe.
Haven't watched it yet, but there's a new video from the Royal Institution about The Physics and Philosophy of Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6rWqJhDv7M
I would say that my landlord, banks and electricity company have a rather acute sense of what time is....
Especially when I am late!
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Originally Posted by woodPixel
So Einstein was right, time is relative :D
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Of coarse time is relative, we all know how long it takes the wife to get ready.....
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."
Douglas Adams - Hitchhikers' guide to the Galaxy 1979