saw stop inventor puts his finger into the blade

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Originally Posted by jmk89

But no-one is making Sawstop compulsory (at least now, that is). I think it remains a valid market participant and for those of us who do not have Carl's attitude to injury (or worse those who do not think themselves indestructible), it is a real question whether the extra layer of protection it provides is worth the $1500 - $2000 that you have to pay to get it.

There is no need to rant - just let people who want to look at it and consider buying it go ahead and do so.

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I am just wondering if the Sawstop could have been marketed differently. We know that the saw itself is of good quality, if engineering allowed the safety feature to be optional and the purchaser was given a choice to buy the saw with the safety feature immediately or at a later date, I am wondering whether there would be a different perception of the product. Apologies, if this has been brought up before.

Zelk

Zelk

That's a good point.

The only reason that a sawstop saw exists at all is that no other sawmaker was willing to put the technology in their saw and the inventor had only two choices - ditch the concept or make his own saws. Now having made that decision I guess it is fairly clear to see why he doesn't sell a version without the safety technology. Probably not a good marketing ploy either some with some without protection.

Brendan, just how many of the saws have you sold in this country and, if any, to what segment(s) of the woodworking community?

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Originally Posted by Christopha

Brendan, just how many of the saws have you sold in this country and, if any, to what segment(s) of the woodworking community?

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Quick tally;
48 machines sold in total since they arrived here in April this year.

Hobbiests - 23 machines
Schools - 11 machines
Govt departments - 4 machines
Industry - 10 machines.

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Originally Posted by tea lady

:oo: Don't they have sausages in the US?....:doh:.:D
:2tsup: Should satisfy Calm though.:rolleyes:

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ROTFLMAO!

:2tsup::2tsup::2tsup:

Give him credit for putting his fingers where his mouth is, or some such.

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Originally Posted by Ruddigar

Quick tally;
48 machines sold in total since they arrived here in April this year.

Hobbiests - 23 machines
Schools - 11 machines
Govt departments - 4 machines
Industry - 10 machines.

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I am impressed - $250,000 turnover in 7 months.:2tsup:
I would have thought that Government would have taken them up in greater numbers. Maybe their requisition procedures take a while to get these things through.:doh:

Hi Brendan,
Just out of interest ... what is the expected lifespan of product spares i.e. if the saw trips 20 or 30 years from now, will they be able to get a replacement "cartridge"? or will they be left with a machine they can't use?

Its not really an issue for industry/government, but the hobbyist could have a saw for many many years (or possibly buy an already old one).

I am glad that you are doing well.

If you want someone to promote the machine for you, then I am more than happy to help you out. Just send me one and I will use it.:2tsup:

:U

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Originally Posted by Vernonv

Hi Brendan,
Just out of interest ... what is the expected lifespan of product spares i.e. if the saw trips 20 or 30 years from now, will they be able to get a replacement "cartridge"? or will they be left with a machine they can't use?

Its not really an issue for industry/government, but the hobbyist could have a saw for many many years (or possibly buy an already old one).

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That's a hard question to answer. Obviously if all goes well then there will always be spare parts available.
The design of the cartridge has already changed once, but the old style cartridge is still being manufactured, and there is the option to fit the equipment necessary to be able to utilise the new cartridges.

That said, if SawStop goes belly up, I'm sure someone will buy the patent to be able to manufacture the cartridges, or work out a way to bypass the need to have a cartridge installed and sell that as a concept.

If you need to replace the cartridge then the whole saw has just paid for itself. :o

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Really? It cost less than $150?

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have you priced a good quality saw blade lately?

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Originally Posted by DavidG

If you need to replace the cartridge then the whole saw has just paid for itself. :o

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... unless you accidentally cut overly green timber without testing it first. :doh:

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Originally Posted by weisyboy

have you priced a good quality saw blade lately?

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So let me get this right: your argument is that because your medical expenses for getting your fingers sewn up and knuckle reconstructed were less than the price of replacing a saw blade and a cartridge, you're better off cutting your fingers than buying a Sawstop?

Well, there's no argument against logic like that.

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Originally Posted by silentC

So let me get this right: your argument is that because your medical expenses for getting your fingers sewn up and knuckle reconstructed were less than the price of replacing a saw blade and a cartridge, you're better off cutting your fingers than buying a Sawstop?

Well, there's no argument against logic like that.

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Yep. He's definitely going to win a Darwinian award - just a matter of when and which one.

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Originally Posted by weisyboy

have you priced a good quality saw blade lately?

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OK. Let's be completely transparent.

The replacement cartridge is purchased from us, and will set you back $152 plus postage plus GST. Let's say it will cost you $185 in total.

The blade you can source from anywhere, but it is ten-inch blade, and according to my good friends at Leuco you would be hard pressed to spend more than $200 on a top quality 10" blade. With GST and postage on top of that, let's call it $240.

$185 + $240 = $425.

$425 is your total out-of-pocket expense to keep your fingers intact if you were using a top of the line saw blade.

I've laid my cards on the table. Let's see yours. How much did it cost you, or the taxpayer, to have your hand fixed. I won't even ask you to factor in the pain or trauma associated with the injury.