Untimely infringement fine!!

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Originally Posted by Iain

Theres a moral here somewhere but I'll let Dan run with that one :D

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There is, indeed, a moral. I will relate a short saga to you about a local buck who is a fair dinkum smartar5e and will be walking very shortly because of it and his refusal to be a good boy.

1. Boy gets licence. Buys himself a relatively new Mits. Lancer. 18" Chrome rims. Looks a treat. Not.
2. Boy gets caught speeding (3 points) 10 days after getting licence. Gives copper attitude when getting booked. Copper who books boy calls local station (us) to let us know of his poor attitude.
3. Boy decides that he is Michael Schumacher and speeds around town regularly causing many complaints.
4. Boy gets pulled over by me (doing nothing wrong) and told in no unertain terms that his driving habits are in need of improvement or he will find himself lighter in the pocket. Done in a friendly manner.
5. Boy is caught speeding two hours later by a different copper. Boy gets booked after telling the copper, "all you c%#ts are just picking on me". (3 points, wave licence goodbye)
6. Boy passes police car (me) on side of road, several weeks later. Boy thinks it is amusing to go round corner, out of sight, crank up the tunes then give the nice Lancer a gut full. After the fourth time in five minutes, Copper has well and truly got the shytes with the smart alec. Smart boy then goes past the other way, cutting the corner, music still blaring. Gets pulled over gives copper the picking on me line. Two more tickets for the book. By this stage, boy has every copper believing that he is the next candidate to be cut out of his car, dead.
7. Boy takes option to keep his licence and be of good behaviour for 12 months. Actually manages to behave (not get caught) for about two months. Then is caught without p plates. Wave goodbye licence.
8. Boy, knowing he is losing his licence, really cuts loose. Drives everywhere at speed, never wears his seatbelt, burnouts all over town. Complaints become a daily occurence. Gets booked several times for no belt, speed, and others. Probably racked up about $1500 in fines.
9. The biggest error yet. Boy gets pulled up again, by local TMU. Gets booked, speed, no belt, not carrying licence. Gives the copper a BIG spray, gets in his car and steams off. Five inutes later, drives past a TMU car parked on side of road. Thinking it the same member, gives the car a gut full and gives copper the bird. Road Safety Task Force (the real bad ones)member, not knowing what the f$@k is going on, pulls over boy, gets a spray. End result three more tickets (no belt, no licence, unroadworthy car) car off the road. Boy then goes and finds the other TMU member to beg him to remove the canary from his car. Guess what? Still not wearing a seatbelt. Another ticket issued.
10. Boy, who should really have learned after getting seven tickets in half an hour and his car put off the road, has been booked speeding, not wearing seat belt, failing to give way, and is going to court for two other separate matters. Pulled him over recently and between getting told what a piece of shyte I am and all the other lovely things he could come up with, I asked him if he thinks he's winning.


Now you tell me the moral. :rolleyes:

Dan

You all felt sorry for him and are giving him a second chance? :D :D :D :D

Hello Dan P..
Would I be correct in saying the Lancer is white :)
If its is I think I know the person,
young guy that lives across the road from my mum.
The Lancer he brought of my nephew.
For his own sake if he is doing the wrong thing - take the licence of him for say 2 years and he might learn & still be alive.
I wont say his name for obvious reasons but I knew he was a bit of a hoon but never knew he was also a Smartarse type.
My nephew (younger brother of ex car owner) was a similar type of person and he is now walking for around 2 years (Im sure you know him) and its the best thing that has happened to him.
He actually said to me a few weeks ago that in future he would be taking his Souped up yellow VL to calder to drag and be stupid.
Thankyou for waking up my nephew if you were involved.
I might not see him in his yellow coffin dead as his dad called it.

P.s. I saw him pulled over buy an unmarked car on friday night on way to work a few weeks back.

Danp, why on earth does this delinquent still have a #%$!*& license. I forgot to pay my rego for 3-days and was made to park my car on the side of the road and not allowed to drive it until I paid the rego. I was as nice and cooperative as you can be with an excellent rating 1 driving record and I cop $511 fine! Yet I get worse treatment than a fool who is behaving in a manner FAR more likely to kill or injure others!!!!

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Originally Posted by martrix

Danp, why on earth does this delinquent still have a #%$!*& license. I forgot to pay my rego for 3-days and was made to park my car on the side of the road and not allowed to drive it until I paid the rego. I was as nice and cooperative as you can be with an excellent rating 1 driving record and I cop $511 fine! Yet I get worse treatment than a fool who is behaving in a manner FAR more likely to kill or injure others!!!!

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Maybe the cops like the kid more than you??
Well you did ask!!

Al :D

Martrix
I think the answer to that one is from what I have seen over the years is.
Some officers are great guys, the people you play cricket or volleyball with - just another person doing his job but being nice about it.
Sometimes being nice and honest they might soften the deal when you have done something wrong.
Another experiance I had with a officer on hume many years ago was
- I Have this badge, I am god type who wasnt very nice at all, yes I stayed in the right lane on freeway to long but it diddnt mean he had to be abusive about it. should have been happy he got me.
I might have got him on a bad day or something but his attitude was bad and honestly I think he needed an extended holiday.
A Smile can go a long way..............
All the local ones from who I have met over the years are just your regular guys doing their job.
I have actually worked kinda with some of them (their familys).
Good ol Molly :) and some others.

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Originally Posted by mutanti

Would I be correct in saying the Lancer is white :)

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Yup.

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Originally Posted by mutanti

For his own sake if he is doing the wrong thing - take the licence of him for say 2 years and he might learn & still be alive.

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That's the plan. We have a board at work with the names of regular customers. His name is there with "will kill someone" written next to it.

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Originally Posted by mutanti

I wont say his name for obvious reasons but I knew he was a bit of a hoon but never knew he was also a Smartarse type.

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He is the biggest smartar5e I have EVER had dealings with.

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Originally Posted by mutanti

My nephew (younger brother of ex car owner) was a similar type of person and he is now walking for around 2 years (Im sure you know him) and its the best thing that has happened to him.

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If the term OASIS means anything to him, it was me that took it off him.

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Originally Posted by martrix

why on earth does this delinquent still have a #%$!*& license

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Unfortunately, we have to go through the demerit point system to get it off him, takes a little while. He's only had it six months and it's gone within a couple of weeks.

If the copper had let you drive and you had stacked then HE would have some responsibilty and could be sued. Would you let them drive in that circumstance?

Dan

Dan

I have no hassles with you taking his licence. (He deserved to lose it)
you have probally kept him alive.
His Old man called his car the yellow coffin.
I have heard of some of the silly things he had done but if you are allowed let me know what he was actually caught for.
he told me he got done for 140 kph for a starters then apparently was caught doing other things after he was told to go home from memory.
or something like that - was awhile ago... ;)

P.S. while allowing my other nephew from Melb drive my car today (Learner) Seen the Lancer getting around, and then again, and again, and a few more times.
Surprised the lancer was still going from the way he was driving it....

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Originally Posted by DanP

Now you tell me the moral. :rolleyes:

Dan

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"If you're not the sharpest tool in the shead, you'll get used as a paint tin opener" ;) :D

DanP

Why not arrest, continuation of the offence?

cheers

dazzler

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Originally Posted by Guy

I got out of a speeding ticket this year that was from 2 years ago. I requested that the matter be dealt with by the courts, 6 moinths later i get the letter requesting my attendance so i waited till 2 days before and rang up and made appologies that i could not attend that date due to work. Well this happened 3 times on the last time i spoke with the prosecutor and she ask what my objection was so i pointed out the following:

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10/10 for getting out of the fine but Im afraid Im going to have to award you 0/10 for wasting court time....Im sure there were more deserving cases waiting for their day in court. Why didnt you voice your objections as soon as you got the fine??

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Originally Posted by dazzler

Why not arrest, continuation of the offence?

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Another six tickets over the weekend (one at 50 km/h over). We plan the arrest thing but are just checking with the legal dpt as we were told not to go that option. We were hoping to get him with a manner dangerous or conduct endangering so we could seize the car. His parents are calling VicRoads tomorrow to beg them to cancel his licence.


mutanti,

Can't say the offences but you're pretty close to the mark. Have since been told by one of his mates that he was much faster about 30 secs before getting checked.

Dan

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Originally Posted by craigb

"If you're not the sharpest tool in the shead, you'll get used as a paint tin opener" ;) :D

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:D :D :D

Hey Dan, But the way I saw Him driving Im surprised you havnt already thrown the book at him.
5 more this weekend - That has got to be some sort of record on top of the other offences.
Im guessing the local paper this week may have a speil on him.
the sooner hes wearing out sneakers the better.
Only A matter of time before some kid chasing a ball onto the road gets cleaned up by this hoon if he ends up driving around till he loses it, hopefully not 28 days or whatever the time frame is.

P.S. I could be wrong but I think You know me, - You may have been one of the officers that drove a truck into work to collect rubbish in small truck ( one of the other jobs you may have done with some of your other work collegues 18 months ago or so.. :) ).

If we threw the book at him any more we would run out of books. :D

I know of you but it wasn't me. Molly and I spoke about you today and I reckon we've figured it out. He did some work at Meiji picking up rubbish.

The local paper has been given the heads up and will probably run a story this week. Front page last week was a bloke doing 219 km/h on his motor bike. Got caught and wore his year off the road with good grace. Although he did give it a squirt trying to get away ;)

Dan