CoronaVirus ==> Empty Shelves

Reading through this thread tonight, I couldn’t help but ponder something.

We are handing out money at a time that some people seem to have a new toilet paper collection hobby.

You have to wonder if the release of the money will create more chaos. I hope those in charge have considered this outcome and don’t hand out all the money at once.


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Well, after 6 odd weeks of significantly reduced worldwide industrial activity, especially in China, and more recently significant reductions in air transport, the measurements are starting to come in. ~20% reduction in NOx and ~25 % reduction in CO2. Plus fish appearing for the first time in decades in venetian canals! - although the locals say this is just cos the crud has settled out of the water so the fish can be seen.
It will be interesting to see the PM2.5 data when it becomes available (which BTW kills millions of people each year)
This all has to continue for some time to have a significant effect but maybe the net death rate from COVID-19 will not be as much as we thought? :D

"~25 % reduction in CO2"

I'll be watching closely as the temperature drops :-)

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Originally Posted by forrestmount

You have to wonder if the release of the money will create more chaos. I hope those in charge have considered this outcome and don’t hand out all the money at once.

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It's from March 31st, so it won't be all at once. With a bit of luck the panic buying & hording will settle down when people start seeing that they have clearly bought too much stuff and it is still being replenished on the shelves. Maybe a week or so.

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Originally Posted by Beardy

I really struggle to understand why people are judged/ categorised by their financial status.

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Agreed. Some people just have a mindset about stigmatised groups.

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i dont understand why people who are already on some form of government assistance are part of this stimulus package, aren’t they already being catered for? Surely there are others who are losing their jobs etc who are going to be in far greater financial need that should be looked after. Or am I missing something?

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As far as I know there are measures being put into place to help people who are losing their jobs - bearing in mind that the situation is extremely fluid, and with low viscosity to boot.

As far as people on welfare already being catered for - you might have to try living on unemployment benefits and paying rent to get a full understanding. How would your lifestyle be if you got ~$500 out of which you had to pay say $250 rent leaving $250 for everything else? The reason they are targeted for stimulus packages is because it is widely known that life on welfare means a frugal life, and any extra money that comes along gets spent almost immediately - which is exactly the goal of a stimulus.

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Originally Posted by Beardy

i dont understand why people who are already on some form of government assistance are part of this stimulus package, aren’t they already being catered for? Surely there are others who are losing their jobs etc who are going to be in far greater financial need that should be looked after. Or am I missing something?

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I'm not a financial genius, but I thought they were giving cash to those already supported by the system because they won't "need" the cash and therefore will buy themselves a new TV. It's seems to be the same idea behind cutting payroll tax for SME's and also giving small biz up to $25k. It's all about keeping business in business. If the government gave me $750, I would put it in the bank in case I lost my job. If I lost my job, well at least I have $750 to cover about 2 weeks worth of mortgage repayments, but paying back my mortgage doesn't prop up small biz.

Kuffy, do I recall you saying you hang our sometimes at Crown Casino?

Yeah, but no more than about 15 hours per week :D

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Yeah, but no more than about 15 hours per week :D

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Then can you confirm <yt-formatted-string force-default-style="" class="style-scope ytd-video-primary-info-renderer" style="word-break: break-word;">You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany? :-)</yt-formatted-string>

Awww, that seems so mean. How about I say, on a Friday night, there are lots of people there to have a good time. However on a Tuesday morning at 3am.......ahhh ummmm...woops my internet cut out so I can't share my opinion of the "people" there at that time

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Awww, that seems so mean. How about I say, on a Friday night, there are lots of people there to have a good time. However on a Tuesday morning at 3am.......ahhh ummmm...woops my internet cut out so I can't share my opinion of the "people" there at that time

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I was quoting someone else so he may have been referring to the 3am crowd (which I'm sure you've only been told about :-). In any case I think I need to go and see myself!

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Originally Posted by Tccp123

In any case I think I need to go and see myself!

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I'll just leave this here and make my way to the naughty corner :D
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Originally Posted by Kuffy

I'll just leave this here and make my way to the naughty corner :D
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Make sure it’s been disinfected first, stand in the corner minimum 1500 mm from anyone else in there too please.

Cheers Matt

Back on track...

Did I read correctly today that we have had only six deaths in Australia? That's less than 1%?

Yep 6 deaths on 568 cases...each death is a tragedy but compared to many other countries , our good health system seems to be coping and giving the critical ones every chance of surviving.