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What did you put in, Chris? And are you :Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Parks
- Using solar thermal panels as part of the heat exchanger, or
- powering it from solar voltaic panels, or
- something else?
A mates just put in a Stiebel Eltron heat pump
powering both his hot water and radiator panels in most rooms. He's keeps raving about it!
Not sure which heat pump HWS you have, but I just programmed our Sanden unit to only operate between 11.00am and 3pm when we have plenty of solar going spare. It only draws 900W for about an hour, and we've never run out of hot water (only 2 people in the house).Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Parks
No home storage battery here, but a couple of months ago I ordered and put a deposit on one of these:-
EVDirect.com.au | BYD Atto 3 - Electric Cars
Expected delivery November/December (I got the long range version). I'll be installing a Zappi home charger which can be set to use only excess solar, or only cheapest rate off peak, or "just charge the car, dammit" mode.
We only get 10.2c/kWh for solar exported to the grid, so I'd rather use it all myself if possible.
My son told me today that the dealership he works for was getting a BYD franchise so he might get a company car when that happens. He hates Chinese cars having worked on one but if it is free I am sure he will change his view.
WPQuote:
Originally Posted by woodPixel
I think that must be Unit No.3 at Flamanville, which commenced construction in 2007 with a budget of 3.3 billion Euros. It still has not been commissioned and the budget so far has blown out to 12.7 billion Euros! When it comes on line it will be Europe's first EPR unit with another two similar EPRs already operating in China. A second unit was originally planned for France, but that has been canned.
Units approaching that size in the past have had tandem shafts (Mountaineer in the US @ 1300+MW is one that comes to mind). I would be interested to see more detail of the turbo generator. It looks very smart. Do you have a link?
Regards
Paul
Yes! It's Flamanville 3.
It is apocalypticly over budget. Imagine the green facilities that could have been built for ~€13B (hint: 10 of these producing 3 times more juice)
My source The steam turbine of France'''s newest nuclear reactor.
To make matters worse, France has been hit by a mega drought.... the longest river in france dried up today
(Edit - just saw this at midnight Europe drought affects major rivers like the Danube, the Rhine and the Po - ABC News )
No water .. no nukes!!
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Or pumped hydro.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodPixel
WP
Thanks for the link and the bad drought news. I am wondering if this is the first ocassion in modern times that such European rivers have dried up.
The link enabled me to search a little more. The turbo generator is the largest made for nukes and is the Arabelle model from GE (i didn't know this and had to look it up). It looks as though it can be ordered in a number of variations.
This is for the more technically minded among you or the plain bloody curious. :)
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The steam enters the HP (High Pressure) cyclinder at the smallest blades and moves to the left. That steam is returned to the boiler (heated in this case by the nuke) and passes through the Reheat pipework. It re-enters the turbine in the IP section, again at the smallest diameter blades this time travelling to the right in the picture. This counter flow balances out the two cylinders. From the exhaust of the IP the steam passes and is shared between the two LP (you've guessed it, Low Pressure) cylinders entering in middle in both cases to balance the forces by travelling in both directions.
I am not quite certain of my ground here but it looks as though there may be three LP cylinders. The exploded diagram above may just have the third cylinder closed in and WP's original pic seemed to show three LP cylinders. In that pic you can see the three white access platforms sitting high. I think the generator is the square box at the far end, but it doesn't look to be completed.
The largest versions of this unit will be for the 50Hz markets (includes most of Europe) as with the 60Hz market the turbine is spining faster at 3600rpm instead of 3000rpm and this will limit the size (length)of the blades in the LP sections. Centrifugal force is very useful but also limiting.
Just to put this turbine into perspective, it is more than three times the size of the turbines we have at Millmerran. I'm impressed. I wonder if they do version for geothermal? :rolleyes::D
Regards
Paul
Maybe no hydro at all!!Quote:
Originally Posted by FenceFurniture
Regards
Paul
Edit: Remember my coment that every power source today has at least one fatal flaw.
or food.Quote:
Originally Posted by FenceFurniture
Centuries-old warnings emerge from riverbed as Europe faces historic drought
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Year 1616: The warning reads, “Wenn du mich seehst, dann weine” – “If you see me, weep.”
To some extent, we are lucky in Australia, for drought is part of our cycle and we've learned to live with it. At least it exists, we know about it, and our systems are somewhat designed to cope - but the Europeans?
Doomed. Their systems are designed for a nice pleasant 20° and a predictable rainfall, with 500 years of damn near perfect weather.
No more - these systems are going to break and break HARD. It doesn't take genius to work out that the hungry mobs will stir discontent.
Worse, bridges, pipes, houses, buildings were all designed for a certain level of humidity and heat. Foundations will crack, systems will break, reliable things will become unreliable and the costs to fix them will be terrible.
This needs to be part of our collective thinking. What are the effects?
Apologies for the tangent.
BTW, I used the word SKOOKUM previously. Its an odd Chinook word I learned long ago. It essentially mean big, powerful, strong, formidable. Its an excellent word :)
WPQuote:
Originally Posted by woodPixel
There are steep learning curves to be had all around the world I think.
"Skookum". I will have to remember that one. Sums up the "Arabelle" fairly well too.
Somebody asked what heppens when a large generator trips off line (looked briefly but couldn't find it). Well, it is a good question and much depends on what percentage of the system the tripped generator represents. At best it creates a dip in the frequency, and assuming there are sufficient other generators available with capacity, the deficit is made up quickly: If not, load shedding is employed. The worst scenario is that a total blackout occurs. These have happened around the world and can be catastrophic.
Regards
Paul
Regards
Paul
Amazing timing - this is on the front page of the BBC News' website just now....
Climate change: Drought highlights dangers for electricity supplies - BBC News
and now with attacks on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, the old nukies don't look like so much fun1 any more.... (we shalt mention our old favourite Chernobyl) :no:
Food for thought.
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1 - safe until they... aren't.
WP
An interesting chart. I had been looking specifically at France's power situation following your post on their latest nuke. France has potentially the highest percentage of nuclear power relative to their demand at about 70%, but all is not roses. I say "potentially" as for any number of reasons their actual load capability may be less than the name plate on their generators. In times of high demand they have to import power from other countries and having been nuclearised (is that a word) for a long time they are now at the stage where the older stations have been de-commisioned. This may be leaving them a little light on in the power generation stakes. It would be interesting to know how much de-commisioning is costing them. I believe the French government holds the majority of the ownership of their nuclear stations.
On the issue of the Ukranian Zaphorizhzhia plant there are two concerns. Firstly that there will be a malfunction resulting in a radioactive contamination leak and secondly that the Russians have occupied the station to use it as a shield; A bit like holding a child as hostage in front of you. I had wonderedwhy the Russians had moved in as univited house guests. My natural naievety prevented me of thinking "hostage." It is difficult to think kindly about anything to do with the Russian hierachy.
:((
Regards
Paul
Excuse another little tangent away from the core discussion.... BUT, this is damned interesting!
"A 17-year-old [named Robert Sansone] created a prototype of a novel synchronous reluctance motor that has greater rotational force -- or torque -- and efficiency than existing ones," report via Smithsonian Magazine. "The prototype was made from 3-D printed plastic, copper wires and a steel rotor and tested using a variety of meters to measure power and a laser tachometer to determine the motor's rotational speed. His work earned him first prize, and $75,000 in winnings, at this year's Regeneron International Science and Engineering Fair (ISEF), the largest international high school STEM competition." From the report:
and this : ETSD014 - Investigating a Novel Electric Motor Design | ISEFQuote:
The less sustainable permanent magnet motors use materials such as neodymium, samarium and dysprosium, which are in high demand because they're used in many different products, including headphones and earbuds, explains Heath Hofmann, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at the University of Michigan. Hofmann has worked extensively on electric vehicles, including consulting with Tesla to develop the control algorithms for its propulsion drive. [...] Synchronous reluctance motors don't use magnets. Instead, a steel rotor with air gaps cut into it aligns itself with the rotating magnetic field. Reluctance, or the magnetism of a material, is key to this process. As the rotor spins along with the rotating magnetic field, torque is produced. More torque is produced when the saliency ratio, or difference in magnetism between materials (in this case, the steel and the non-magnetic air gaps), is greater.
Instead of using air gaps, Sansone thought he could incorporate another magnetic field into a motor. This would increase this saliency ratio and, in turn, produce more torque. His design has other components, but he can't disclose any more details because he hopes to patent the technology in the future. [...] It took several prototypes before he could test his design. [...] Sansone tested his motor for torque and efficiency, and then reconfigured it to run as a more traditional synchronous reluctance motor for comparison. He found that his novel design exhibited 39 percent greater torque and 31 percent greater efficiency at 300 revolutions per minute (RPM). At 750 RPM, it performed at 37 percent greater efficiency. He couldn't test his prototype at higher revolutions per minute because the plastic pieces would overheat -- a lesson he learned the hard way when one of the prototypes melted on his desk, he tells Top of the Class, a podcast produced by Crimson Education. In comparison, Tesla's Model S motor can reach up to 18,000 RPM, explained the company's principal motor designer Konstantinos Laskaris in a 2016 interview with Christian Ruoff of the electric vehicles magazine Charged.
Sansone validated his results in a second experiment, in which he "isolated the theoretical principle under which the novel design creates magnetic saliency," per his project presentation. Essentially, this experiment eliminated all other variables, and confirmed that the improvements in torque and efficiency were correlated with the greater saliency ratio of his design. [...] Sansone is now working on calculations and 3-D modeling for version 16 of his motor, which he plans to build out of sturdier materials so he can test it at higher revolutions per minute. If his motor continues to perform with high speed and efficiency, he says he'll move forward with the patenting process.
These are 17 year olds. It BOGGLES my mind. Such genius.
Here is a well explained video discussing the 2003 blackout in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KciAzYfXNwU
This is a very, very bad sign for the future availability, supply and cost of electricity in Australia Solar briefly overtakes coal in Australia as number one source of power nationally - ABC News
Until we have heaps and heaps of electricity storage -- remember that battery backup is really mostly about stabilizing the grid, Snowy 2 won't come on-line before 2027 (if that early), and the second link across Bass Strait will be even further in the future -- these sorts of relative costs imply that in a year or so most of Australia's electricity will be generated by super expensive gas
Unless we nationalise it, or embargo our needs first....Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
Not sure the latter suggestion would pass the pub test in Tassie.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian
My reading is that most people are so disgusted with the AER, AEMO and AEMC that the second link is unlikely to be built. Run a referendum now and the consensus might be to pull the plug on the existing cable. Most think it is a failure.
GraemeQuote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
I struggle with how selective people in Tassie pubs, and indeed anywhere in Australia, can be. The AEMO, just to take one of the institutions but it applies to all the bodies you mentioned, have operated the market since the competitive market first began 25 years ago. All through these years Australians enjoyed dirt cheap electricity despite how the government of the day would constantly advise that electricty costs were escalating. During this period the generators battled to make a profit.
All businesses are entitled to make a profit: A reasonable profit that is and not a mega windfall. It is only in the last eight months that wholesale prices have gone ballistic. Indeed it is time to look closely at the "rules" as the whole playing field has dramatically changed. However, that has not been caused by AER, AEMO or AEMC. Probably, if we were being honest, we would say that a combination of circumstances, mis-management at governmental level and greed has sparked this dramatic change in the cost of electricity we are now about to experience. I say "about" to experience as many people, mainly those who are with the traditional retaillers (who had lengthy fixed price contracts), have not been significantly affected at this point. It was the opportunity retaillers who jumped in and purchased primarily on the spot market who have been catastrophically impacted and in turn their customers. Yes, some revision will have to happen.
Snowy 2 is pumped hydro as we know and you just can't dig tunnels and build dams in the blink of an eye: We have inherited the inactivity ( and denial) of previous governments and if there is disenchantment it should be placed squarely in front of the door of those who refused to acknowledge that the world was changing in a way that has never been seen since the Industrial Revolution of the early 1800s.
As to bass link, I wonder why your fellow Tasmanians think it is a failure? It was put in to ensure continuity of supply for Tasmania in case the prime source, hydro, should undergo a drought. Look what happened when the link broke. Tasmania ran on diesel. Pull the plug now and go "black." Failure? Are they on the same planet as the rest of us? Unfortunately the plethora of media comment by the manipulative and the deceitful has much to answer for.
:((
Regards
Paul
Not quite, Paul.
There have been two significant periods when Tassie has run partly on diesel. A major drought in the 1960's and a more recent case caused by an inept government selling too much power to the mainland, at the time of a minor drought.
Tasmania has traditionally had retail electricity prices substantially below mainland rates; that has not been the case for 20 years and prices continually rise. But they have not built a new hydro station for 40 years!
There is now plenty of wind power and solar power available. Hydro can provide both base load and the intermittent load when the sun stops shining and the wind doesn't blow. Unlike coal, it can kick in virtually instantly.
Pull the plug now and no one will notice.
No arguements about investors being entitled to a reasonable profit for their investments and risks undertaken. But a big part of the hostility to Basslink 2 is that profitibility element with certain companies wanting their profits underwritten. That expectation alone will probably scuttle the project, unless there is a major rethink.
I have to wonder whether most people even know who these organisations are. Some people would have heard of AEMO, only some, and probably only of late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
Looking at my electricity usage for the period 19th May 2021 to 18th May 2022: my bills for the period $864.82. With my new "Retention Rates" plan with Origin (i.eQuote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
as cheap as it can possibly below as they are prepared to go, and certainly the best rates on the market here in Blue Mountains) the bills would have been $1269.91, which is a 46.8% increase.
That sounds like you are blaming The Morrisons, but AFAIK (or AFAWK), Energy was one of the few portfolios they didn't have enough time to swear themselves in to. Otherwise, had they been the Ministers For Energies, all would have been saved and we'd be warm and fuzzy in the safe knowledge that they'd make it rain when we needed it for Hydro, make it sunny when we needed it for Solar – maybe even both at once (!), and then tuck us in at night, when they would bend over backwards and make wind power for us. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
Hmmm. "The Morrisons".....sound like a good name for a band....perhaps a Death Metal Band.
Yes, but don't forget that they had a damn good crack at a new one in 1982, until they were scuttled in '83.Quote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
GraemeQuote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
The recent event was when the bass link broke. There may well have been a drought and there was a perfect example of greed resulting in Tassie selling their power to the mainland. However, the breakage was the salient point here.
The link itself was put in place to insulate the island against bad times: Not for when there was plentiful water, plenty of sun and abundant wind. It is much too easy to say "the sun is shining" today. The old mantra of "continuity of supply" has fallen by the wayside in favour of making money; right now.
When you say Tasmania has traditionally had prices below the mainland rates, but not for the last twenty years this is only about the duration of the competitive market (or did you mean the last two years?) Before that there were no prices: Just power. I don't know much about the second Bass Strait link to the exent I didn't know one was even proposed.
I would reiterate my earlier statements in this thread that talk of more renewables without accompanying storage facilities is a recipe for disaster, blackouts and bankruptcy.
Regards
Paul
Agreed Paul. The actual generation of renewable power is pretty much sorted (but will obviously undergo improvement and expansion). In my view, the vast majority of research money should be going into storage. Say we put 80% of the money into research - under previous Govts that would be 80% of zero = ummm, zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
FFQuote:
Originally Posted by FenceFurniture
Good point about the regulators and a little difficult to know just where their jurisdictions begin and end.
You have a choice of retaillers. Yopu are indeed in a blessed location compared to the one option here. :)
Scomo, with all his other hats probably ran out of "energy" or perhaps that was still to come in his third term or, more likely, he didn't think it rated much attention..
Regards
Paul
Yes, I don't understand why there can't be other retailers everywhere. It's not like they actually do anything to deliver the sparks. They are given a meter reading (by the wholesaler or distributor, Endeavour Energy in my case), create a bill, receive the money, pay the wholesaler. It could be done from a home-office, as far as I can see. Apparently they have to fool around buying on the spot market - can be done from anywhere that has internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
No Paul. We had a five year drought, stoarage dams were run low and, as the drought persisted, the Basslink cable was too small to bring in sufficient energy, so and they fired up the Bell Bay generators. Then Basslink broke and exacerbated an existing problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
Yep, renewables without storage is a problem! But once you have the Dam, hydro is probably the ideal storage medium. Wind and solar when available, then switch on the hydro!Quote:
... I would reiterate my earlier statements in this thread that talk of more renewables without accompanying storage facilities is a recipe for disaster, blackouts and bankruptcy.
Regards
Paul
I am trying to be very cautious with how I word this as I do not wish to inflame things.
I never listen to the radio - there is not one in the house and I never turn on the car radio. But a couple of weeks ago I was in a friends car and he is addicted to talk back radio (Yuk). So I was an unwilling but captive audience.
Some one was having a rant about the problems of electric cars. Most of it was the usual "we'll all be doomed" extremism, but a small part was fairly cogent, and suggested that while electric car owner's had the best motives in their choice of vehicle, that they could actually and inadvertently be exacerbating the electricity supply problems. His argument was quite simple:
- Electricity demand follows four fairly consistent bands during the day; low demand overnight, moderate demand during the day, high demand at breakfast time and peak demand at dinner time. (AEMO website verifies this.)
- Absolute peak demand occurs between 5.00 and 7.00 pm each night.
- Electric car owners leave work at 5.00 pm and drive home and immediately plug in their cars to recharge, right at the peak of the demand cycle.
- Thus they exacerbated a major existing problem.
- And those cars are fully charged well before midnight when there is excess supply.
- Only a small percentage of electric cars are charged on off-peak supplies. (I have not been able to verify this.)
He offered two solutions
- Only allow electric cars at home to recharge on off-peak tariffs so they do not exacerbate the problem. Even if you replaced his compulsion with encourage this would be beneficial.
His second solution was even better but required fairly sophisticated technology:
- Install a "super smart"(*) electricity metering system.
- At 5.00 pm he knocks off work, drives home and plugs in the car,
- The super smart meter knoows that there is high demand for electricity so it draws from the car battery into the grid - the car becomes part of the solution.
- Then, when the grid moves into a low demand period the super smart meter reverses the current flow and charges the battery - again the car is evening demand through the day.
- If he has an early start or a very high demand day ahead, then he presses the over-ride button and the super smart meter ensures the car is fully charged by, say, 6.00 am next day.
- (*) He used another phrase for "super smart" but I cannot remember it. I only half listened until I realised he was talking sense.
He also irritated the bejusus out of me because every step he was advocating he was also saying should make compulsory. Most people want to do the right thing and if that option is available and they know about it then they will adopt it. Especially with anything involving renewables - it is the driving force. Compulsion would probably be counterproductive with many people, like me.
Graham, most BEV (battery electric vehicle) owners don't need to charge their vehicles every night and those who do can set the period of recharge after peak demand time. It looks like my son could be getting an electric company car as part of his new job at BYD and he will only need to re-charge once a week but in his case at work.
I echo your thought on radio, I have had my car for 6 years and I don't know if the radio works, the bit that plays music and audio books works and that is all I care about.
GraemeQuote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
During that period Tassie was selling power into the mainland, because they could make money. I saw it. That unconsionable activity (particularly if the drought had already been in existence for some time) depleted the dams further just to make money and when the Bass link broke they were up that well known creek: No paddle.
The DC link was put in place to safeguard Tasmania particularly against drought and not so greedy companies or governments could make money. There may well have been a problem any way, but it would not have been anywhere near so acute. The Bass Strait strategy would have worked if it had been used the way it was intended.
Remember, all generation sources have a fatal flaw. Hydro only works when you have water. Ask the Europeans at the moment. It is a big mistake, in my opinion, to place such great store in any single source of energy.
Regards
Paul
GraemeQuote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
His comments have some elements of truth, like all such things, but there are two stages towards EVs. The first is while much of the energy produced is still by fossil fuelled stations while the second is when the great majority of power is produced by renewables, which is arguably still a long way off: I, for example, may never see this.
The dynamic is not the same for both scenarios. For the moment, it really doesn't matter much when the vehicle is charged other than if it occurs at night the EV is being charged by fossil fuel energy and largely negates the benefit of an EV. Once renewables are the prime source of energy it will be important to charge during the day and I would expect tarrifs (money fundamentally) will dictate when people charge their vehicles. As time goes on, charging stations will replace fuel stations, although not neccessarily in the the same type of locations (probably many will be in office blocks or other places of work.)
Arguments by your radio commentator of this nature are not really helpful and are reminiscent of the Luddites (this is a bit rich coming from me I know). When the combustion engine first appeared there was much conjecture about doom and gloom and for a period of time, in the UK at least, a person had to walk in front of a motor vehicle holding a red light (I wonder how many were propositioned). Such is the nonsense spouted when people don't understand what they are talking about.
Fear is a big driver of distrust and many governments, and others, have used it successfully to promote their own agendas. While I don't think for one moment it will be plain sailing, I fully expect the issues will be sorted out. One thing your radio man should have mentioned and as you have not mentioned it I guess he did not raise it, is that the demand for electricity will increase to much more than is currently required. While on this thread we have focused on electrical generation and how it is produced, it is worth remembering than more electricity will be needed to cope with the substitution of gas and petrol.
Actually the fact that your commentator offered solutions, which seemed quite reasonable, seems to indicate he was making a mountain out of a molehill.
Regards
Paul
PS: I only listen to Radio National.
Our Radio friend has reinvented exactly what occurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
See Future of the Australian Electricity Market
and Tesla Energy Plan | Tesla Australia
and Australian researchers to study how Tesla car batteries can power grid | Reuters
This last article was the very first to appear on a basic search.
Its on Teslas bloody website. Radio Man didn't even bother to read the front page of the very system he was criticising.
It is obvious that a car owner with a massive battery would suck in cheap solar/wind energy during the day/off-peak and "sell" it back on-demand during peak.
Its obvious.
On compulsion, that won't be necessary. I've watched three people that have electric cars at my building. They get home and plug it in automatically. I'd wager that if their carpark at work has a charger they'd plug it in. Leaving it plugged in while parked will become as automatic as locking the car (who even thinks about it any more, just subliminally press the button as one walks away!). There will sit a million cars with massive batteries ready to pump up the network.
As an aside, I was considering upgrading the HSV to a new motor (also a '59 VW Beetle). I enquired with the Strata Managers about putting in smart chargers. They are $2000 each and there is talk to put them in a large number of the spots.
I think the future is VERY bright (assuming we don't go to war with China next month!)
edit - this just popped up (cos THEY aren't watching, are they! :rolleyes:) Tesla's virtual power plant had its first event helping the grid – looks like the future | Electrek
Not quite true - he has reinvented what might occur if we lived in a perfect world - the technology might exist but its implementation has barely started.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodPixel
That is only one more than me; I have absolutely no idea who I was listening to or what station he works for. And less interest!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
I suspect the same could be said of BEVs. We have, IIRC, the slowest take up of BEVs in the OECD (or something) for various reasons, which only means that the radio jock was probably harping on about a more or less non-existent problem (if there's bugger all BEVs then there's bugger all peak recharge problem).Quote:
Originally Posted by GraemeCook
Here is a project in China that generates 910kw of solar in the desert.
Its obvious to see the difference its having on the soil and remediation.
We have a fair bit of sun and desert here.... 1+1?
https://youtu.be/qR9MLlQakK8
WP
That is interesting. The re-vegetation is particularly impressive, but the region does not seem quite as "desert" as we are led to believe (just by the location and people, although that could have grown up since the project started. Also I noted they have underground water. However, and I know I'm sounding negative, the issue in Oz is not the space as wehave nearly as much as the Chinese, but the distances the transmission lines have to go to reach the populated areas. There are already many stand alone power grids which are that way because it is too far, too expensive and too inefficient (voltage losses) to run the wires. To go significant distance the voltage has to be higher, which means the transmission lines are a heavier gauge and the towers are correspondingly bigger. This translates into expense.
Having said all that, it looks like for them it is doing a great job providing not too much is propaganda and hyperbole.
Regards
Paul
The subject of EVs has come up in recent threads, not unsurprisingly and I saw this article on charging stations. It may be of interest. I know very little about them and only saw my first one a couple of months ago at Colangatta. I have to get out more:
How Much Does It Cost To Use an Electric Car Charging Station in Australia? (msn.com)
Regards
Paul
I haven't read this yet, but the headline shouted that it might be appropriate to this thread.
China drought causes Yangtze to dry up, sparking shortage of hydropower | China | The Guardian
Quote:
Originally Posted by FenceFurniture
I heard on the ABC Radio that the shortage of power has forced some businesses to shorten their opening hours and some manufacturers to close temporarily
These serious articles are coming thick and fast now!
This one is particularly interesting as it discusses a battery tech I mentioned previously.
Have a read, then think...hmmm....trucks, buildings, suburb-level or small regional storage....
EV shipping is set to blow internal combustion engines out of the water – pv magazine USA