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Also how will you go with the owner builders license?
Is there a minimum age limit to getting one?
Can you get one even if you are not (I assume) the "owner" of the property?
I'm just playing devils advocate here, but might be worth checking out.
Also FC, is the property classed as rural? When I put up my "rural storage shed" (steel framed) I had to put it through council, but I didn't need to get an owner builders license or anything.
In NSW you have to be the property owner and over 18 years old.
I dare say it'd be the same deal up here in Queensland...
My pick is for a steel shed kit that someone else puts up or if you really have to build it yourself, then find a local builder who'll "lend" you their builder's number.
Why on earth would a licensed builder risk his livliehood by lending his license?
Do you expect Lawyers and Doctors to lend their licenses?
only person that would lend a licence is a really good mate ant tehn they would help u build it.:2tsup:
otehrwise fat chance.
Why not have a timber shed? It'll look nicer and I can say that I made the darn thing, from log to shed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackliveshere
I think it is. Thanks for the ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Vernonv
Since I don't own the land then I can't get the permit, but Dad can and he wanted to anyway. I'll have a talk to the drafters, they'll probably be more helpful than the council
Calm down mate....of course I don't expect lawyers and doctors to lend their licenses. Nevertheless, builders do lend their licenses to people they know....it does happen....and it will happen again. And as Weisyboy said, yes, they usually have to know the people pretty well. FunkyChicken is in a tough situation for what he wants to do & basically the only option is for a builder to help him out, hence me suggesting it cause it does happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Funky; obviously a timber shed is going to look nicer, I agree totally. But for the effort and time, it just seems that the steel shed and slab would be quicker and easier and get you into your new shed and woodworking much sooner.
Cheers,
WILL
Echnidna has a point, so I'd have to know a builder pretty well which I don't.
Two choices: Dad gets a owner builder licence or I bring the value of the shed below $11000.
So a question for WILL. How much would you charge to build a 12x6x3m shed, 600mm off the ground. Just the frame, floor and cladding, no fancy internal stuff. A rough guess will do
As for steel vs timber shed. The timber shed will be nicer to be in and will add more value to the land. And it's what I've decided on
a lot more than 11000:U
So in this roughie price, am I pricing supply & install of materials? Because that price will obviously be way more then anything you are costing as you don't really have any labour prices in your costing. Supply & install would be way over $11,000 to get subbies involved to erect it. Still want a price?Quote:
Originally Posted by funkychicken
Cheers,
WILL
I'd supply the materials, the builder would just need to erect the thing.
FC, this might be interesting
hmm i need a new timber drying shed....
Wow, that's cheap. I wonder how long it'd last...Quote:
Originally Posted by echnidna
Boss man can give me Wholesale price so that brings the price down to $7818:2tsup:
Not only cheap but with prebuilt walls you should be able to erect the frame in a couple of days taking it easy
You'd still need a slab
You can probably sit the walls on top of beaeres and joists if you want a timber floor.
That's how traditional weatherboard houses are built
yer it wouold just sit on a floor same as you shed was gunna
then put wheatherboards on teh outside.
Nah, it's too small
shouldn't be a lot extra to lengthen it 3metres, ask for a quote
This site may interest you
Cheers
Michael
You only need a builders licence to build residential structures, if you call the building a office, or farm / machinery / packing shed then no licence is needed, I take it your on acres
regards inter
umm..acres? We've got nearly 1. We're not in the burbs (thank goodness) but we're not out in the sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by InterTD6
I've looked through the owner builder paperwork and I'm pretty sure you need a licence to build anything that's taller than 5ft.
im sorry to haev to tell u this but if u have less than 1 acre you are in the suberbs.
in qld you will need a builders licence to build a shed like that. as it will be deamed as liveable
FC, think about milling your own timber
can you use your bosses lucas in your own time?
or even get an Alaskan CSM and DIY totally.
I know you have been spoilt by a Lucas but it all comes back to money.
The maximum discount I could get from milling the timber myself is my wage ($120 a cube). I'll only be cutting about half the timber on the lucas, the rest will be benched.
And I'm not in the burbs
hows that?
when i mill for someone the timber costs less than half of buying it. :?
you are so.
The logs, trucks, chainsaws, petrol, diesel, bobcat, lucas mill, etc. aren't mine. The only thing that is mine is the labour
Am not
so get some logs and ill come up and mill them:;
mates rates.
Thats normal plus 20% isnt it?:D:2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by weisyboy
I agree in the suburbs on a big block.
so i calculated
u have 4.8 cube of framing. so u would get it out of 8 cube of logs easily probable less. so it would cost about $1500 to get it cut.
u have 4.5 cube of weatherboards you could get this out of 9 cube of logs easily so would cost about $1700 to cut it.
total for your timber of about $3200 leaving u $6800 to buy logs:2tsup: before you broke even.
you would also have a heap of other sizes left over for making stuff.
just food for thaught.:2tsup:
But it's not just about me, I'd rather give the money to my boss because he's a good bloke and if his business dies then I'm out of a job
yer so how long will u haev to work for free to pay off the $6000:?
but if ya got 6 grand lying around :;
na its your choice mate just not the way id do it.
me neither , but to each his own likes and dislikes
It's only $7818 for the timber from work. How did you work out your price?
well you have about
43.5m of 150mm x 150mm = 0.52 m3
72 m of 100 x 50 = 0.36 m3
36m of 125 x 75 = 0.35 m3
360m of 100 x 25 = 0.9 m3
144m of 100 x 38 = 0.52 m3
160m of 150 x 50 = 1.2 m3
144m of 75 x 38 = 0.4 m3
144m of 125 x 50 = 0.55 m3
total = 4.8 cubic meters of sawn timber
recovery of 50-65% = 8 cube of logs
8 cube x $190/ log cube = $1520 (youd get it for $180/ cube being a forum member)
684m of 175mm x 25mm x 6mm wheatherboards = 4.56 m3
recovery of 40 - 50% = 9 cube of logs
9 cube x $190/ long cube = $1710 (youd get it for $180/ cube being a forum member)
total $3240
and if ya cant get 20 cube of logs at the gate for a coupla grand then theres sompthing rong. good mill logs are worth a maximum of $150/cube and thats only if tehy are top notch.
Being from NSW & a licenced builder if I build anything decribed in the previous post then I dont have to provide a licence or be a builder. It depends on the zoning of the land as to whether you can build any of those structures, your zoning could possibly be rural residential, so a farm / machinery shed is what I would be calling it, not habitable therefore no licence needed
regards inter
Definitely need a license for Funky's type of structure up here Inter :2tsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by InterTD6
Cheers,
WILL
Dang:~Quote:
Originally Posted by jackliveshere
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackliveshere
regards inter