WHAT NO RESPONCE TO THE NEWCOMMER YET
iT'S BEEN A DAY AND A HALF NOW
And whats more he's an admitted Pom
If ya don't like em then don't by em
Regards
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WHAT NO RESPONCE TO THE NEWCOMMER YET
iT'S BEEN A DAY AND A HALF NOW
And whats more he's an admitted Pom
If ya don't like em then don't by em
Regards
What sort of a response do you want Woodgrub?
I agree with almost everything that silkwood says. I personally do not like AWR and although I sometimes buy it, I am usually a bit disappointed with the contents. I believe that it is generally directed more towards the professional rather than the enthusiast.
Re your comment:
You are not actually allowed to buy Poms. Slavery was outlawed (in the west) some time ago. It was always a waste of time and money to own the Pommie ones anyway as they never worked very well.Quote:
And whats more he's an admitted Pom If ya don't like em then don't by em
Re Bob Wilson's comments about FWW website, I have to agree. Trying to subscribe or renew an FWW subscription online if you dont live in the US is a bit like trying to extract teeth.
How such an excellent publication can be so inept about it's overseas customers puzzles me.
They send a little letter reminding me to renew, the fact that they have addressed it to me in in Australia seems to escape their attention. They keep on sending them even if you renew by snail mail. I'm retired and stopped writing out chques and sticking down envelopes about two or three years ago and pay all my bils over the phone or online.
Each year I run the gauntlet of their website but my failing memory prevents me from remembering how I conquered it the previous year and to date I have had:
One subscription not renewed
Two subscriptions renewed but with the wrong address, this took about four email exchanges to get it right.
And finally, One subscription not renewed but treated as a new subscriber resulting in two magazines arriving just days apart.
A visit to the website to correct the error resulted in another session of trying to beat the 'I dont live in America' syndrome.
Maybe we should start a poll rating subsribing online to overseas magazines.
I'll keep you posted about my latest spat with Taunton Press.
Ray
Bob's right, I don't (but I am Cheap).
Cheers,
TO BOB WILSON
I meant no harm to a person, I meant to be refering to the magazine.
My public and humble apology. :confused:
Hey woodgrub
We all knew what you meant, my reply was a deliberate misunderstanding of what you wrote.
No need to apologise. :)
What does humble mean (apart from a pie filling)?:p
VERB Humble 'humbul
1. Cause to fee shame; hurt the pride of
2. Cause to be unpretentious
:D :D :D
Fine Woodworking for now, but I am getting a little sick of the increasing amount of advertising that is included. Other than that the articles are great and well illustrated.
I like the woodworker its a pommy mag with good variety and reviews a bit closer aligned to the stuff i am currently interested in. I access it with my favourite tool (the library card) when i don't buy it. Good variety and less "glossy" than some of the others. More step by step and i feel more bang for buck in the reviews which suit me as i am in the setting up stage. Ie review of tools i may actually and will buy rather than 7 pages on a hotley plane worth $7g
I dont subscribe anymore to any one mag but tend to only buy depending on a quick perusal of the content in the bookshop but in the main its AWW,FWW, and 'furniture & cabinet making" a pommie mag with reasonable content aside from the ads.
cheers :)
A little varied from the thread but does anyone else get annoyed by the price comparison betwen these magazines and whole on-topic dedicated book. It doesn't take too many $8 , $9 and $10 dollar magazines before you could have had a book such as those available at carbatec or through AWR that is comprehensive on a topic. My absolute pet hate is a dragged out article over several issues. 3 pages at a monthly interval about a topic or project of interest is my idea of torture. Eg The kitchen installing articles streched over 3 bimonthly issues of the family handyman totaling only around 13 pages vs a BH&G book which was only $25 at Magnet Mart completely dedicated to installs of maybe 150 pages.
[QUOTE=Ben from Vic.] like using something other than a table saw to cut your finger off.
Totally my own views of course. :D
Ben.
Ben
You better hope none of the hand tool crew, like Derek or Darrylf read this post or you'll be in trouble, I personally nearly cut my finger off with a piece of 80grit wet and dry this arvo. I was trying to flatten a Stanley 12-204 plane. My initial attempt was on a 600grit paper. but that only put a shine on 10mm on either end of the plane. The part where the lade is was 1mm off the paper. Several hours and several pieces od 60grit later, there was only small part behind the blade that was still untouched. So muggsy decides to put downward pressure on that part. Put his finger straight through the opening for the blade didn't he? You better believe it hurt. F$%k me it is still tender, pushing a part of your finger over 60grit in the frog opening of a number 4 really f$%king hurts. So what have I learned? 500 odd dollars for a Lie Nielson is money well spent, How crap are the modern Stanleys?
It will eventually be ok but how much machining would it have taken them to save me 8 or 9 hours of pain? and possibly ten dollars worth of 120 grit paper.
Sorry guys
Got carried away ther, forgot to mention that I like the Australian woodsmith, I find AWR to be too arty farty. The fine wood magazine would be ok if it wasn't full of articles using timbers that are commonplace in the US but rare as RHS in this country. IMHO none of them are worth a subscription. I'm with Bob, a quick perusal then either put it back or buy it! Problem solved.
Who needs mags with this forum anyway??????
Yep, I'm guilty, I subscribe to AWR and being a slow learner it took awhile to wake up to the "influences" in the reviews. Not enough sawdust and details. I look forward to the book reviews which often don't tell you the book's country of origin. It fills a special place in my dunny, but its too glossy......Quote:
Originally Posted by hovo
Hovo,Quote:
I was trying to flatten a Stanley 12-204 plane.
You should have sent the blasted plane back if it was that far out.
1mm+ no wonder that it took you 8hrs.
I think i would had used my belt sander first.
Skull
It was a present from some friends and I didn't have a receipt. I still haven't finished it.
My vote goes for Australian Woodsmith Magazine. I've got every issue from the beginning. I've made lots of their projects with out any hassel. Mistakes are very rare and unlike other Australian magazines I have worked from, their measurements do add up. Of course they have adapted their articles from American Woodsmith so some of the sizing isn't easily available in Brisbane. I usually adapt to suit Tasmanian Oak in 19mm.
Anyway I do think the Australian wood industry needs a shot in the arm. I do think they could do better with the accuracy of their milling.
I have a subscription to US Finewoodworking - its quite affordable by subscription. Marvellous magazine, but maybe a bit ahead of my level of skills. Australian Woodsmith as almost, and I say almost, idiotproof. If you follow the instructions carefully its really great and they do deserve your support I think.
yours in woodworking JOhn in Brisbane.
I've got every issue of Australian Wood smith and I swear by it. I've made lots of their projects. Errors are very rare. If you follow the instructions you can't go too far wrong. I know they are adapting from the US Woodsmith so some of the measurements need some re designing is sometimes necessary to suit what is available in Brisbane. I usually re adapt to suit Tasmanian Oak 19mm as much as I can. I also have a subscription to the US Fine Woodworking which is marvellous, but a bit above my skill level at present perhaps!
Cheers from John in Brisbane.
That's one hell of a stutter you have there John. :)
Used to buy this magazine that came out every 2 - 3 months from England. Not sure if it is still available or not but haven't seen it around lately.
It was devoted entirely to the Router....lots of useful hints and jigs to make.
I still see it occasionally. Most recently last week.
It's interesting that when this poll first started, Fine Woodworking was the clear winner. Since then Aus Wood Review has come home with a wet sail.
Im probably like alot of others in this forum....I buy more than one woodie mag and most of them have good stuff in them. I rated Fine Woodworking as top choice only because I couldnt vote for more than one mag. I buy most of the Australian mags on a regular basis as well as occasional purchases of some of the Britich ones. I also get the Guild of American Luthiers quarterly mag on subscription.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
I havent done a tot up on my monthly magazine bill but it would be fairly hefty....add in the cup of coffee I have to buy immediately after buying a mag because I cant wait till I get home to read same and the bill soars even higher.
I'll read them at the Library when I'm flogging the kids into doing some study,
else at the news agents.
I'll buy whichever has something of 'standout' intrest.
Count
NO! i don't flogg the kids,
but from the looks I get when I "require" them to do some homework..... WOW :eek:
[QUOTE=silentC]But if you were buying a home computer, would you put the look of the thing ahead of the availability of software?
[QUOTE]
Most definitely...Im right into lurking around Qantas club lounges looking for people with their PC laptops open....in particular the ones who have obviously just bought there machine and have it open mainly to show off their new purchase rather than to do any work on them.
I quietly sidle up and sit down beside them and crack open the mighty Ti-book. Up comes the lovely boot up theme and on comes the cute little lit up apple logo on the back of the screen. First there are sideways glances from the hapless PC owner which are soon replaced by a mesmorised stare.....soon the poor chum is drooling down the front of his shirt.................
Yeah right, a non-Mac user drooling over a Mac. Do you REALLY expect us to believe that? The only people I've ever seen go into fits of ecstasy over those Titanium Mac laptops are the owners. It's a wonder they can see the screen for the steamy mist and the drool.Quote:
soon the poor chum is drooling down the front of his shirt
Is it true that the illuminated Apple logo was upside on the first few batches?
Funny you should say that, I have an aluminium one (the titanium replacement) - I was just going to replace my white iBook and sort of got talked into it, and glad I did because it is a terrific machine....I'm a BIT cynical about flashy stuff and the people who have to have it so really didn't want one.... I have to carry a rag to wipe of other people's dribble whenever I open it in public....in fact I rarely do anymore because of all the nerds that actually come up and ask me stuff about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
IT'S JUST A COMPUTER ...GET A LIFE!!
With regard to the logo, no the first few batches weren't built with the logo upside down....a whole model line was!
From memory the original G3 PowerBook was designed to be carried with the logo right way up, but when the machine was open it was inverted. I don't see what the fuss is about, I've never seen the back of my screen with the thing open anyway. Well just once I looked to see what the glowing Apple looked like....cool actually!!
Cheers,
P
(Still reading FWW to keep this on thread)
Just started out - live in Darwin - not a big selection - DAG NABBITT
the logo thing is cool, except for when you would love to have that little bit of extra battery when it dies :D
Unfortunately dont have access to the aussie ones, but read :
American woodworker, the woodworker, good woodworking,practical woodworking,furniture & cabinet making,new woodworking, traditional woodworking. Plus fine woodworking when i can find it.
only problem is i hate throwing them out and now have a hall cupboard full of the bloody things so ive eased up buying them now...otherwise i wouldnt have space for the mucky mags!!
I find in many of the mags that articles/features start to repeat after a while and tend to stop buying them when that happens.
beejay1
Playboy... It's not about woodworking but it'll give ya some wood:D
Only on the Aussie ones. They were right side up to us up here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Its great to see so many resourceful fella's on the forum. Means Im not the only one to skimp on the wallet and walk to the local library. I've only just looked into magazines myself recently, and I thought of the library as the best place to get a look at a few different ones closeup, rather than a cover page on the web.
So far AWS has my vote, and I ordered some back issues last night actually. I think I will be visiting the library and look out for interesting projects there (so as to avoid paying for all the crap) and purchase the issues that grab me by the throat. Im another who doesnt read the reviews/adverts. Too much of a cynic. Why take the word of a mag, when you can get heaps of first hand advice from a forum.
Im a practical kinda hobbiest who hasnt got time for frivolous projects just yet. Still learning how to use most of the equipment I have (plus hand tools,) let alone buy that that I dont have etc... So, with magazines I'll just keep going the way I am for now. Books are a different matter.
J!
Keep the fire burning, SilentC - I am sure most who read this thread would be appreciative of the info it contains, but perhaps not so confident in putting forward their opinion, like me. I only buy the odd woodworking magazine, and will buy whatever magazine has the inspiration for me at the time. I do buy The Owner Builder magazine regularly, though, and their website has links to some projects with some inspirational woodwork on a grand scale!
Cheers,
Jill
P.S. Watch those eyes!
Lets see
Better Homes and Garden - it was a gift subscription ok!!! :)
Country Looks/Style/Decorator/Collector - very occasionally - great for pictures and ideas for things to build, only need a picture sometimes :D
Family Handyman - was good until they changed the style and format, and when did they change it???? the month after I renewed my subscription!!!!! :mad: *b********* *b************ *f************* *x************
Other than that, I buy wood mags that interest me specifically, doesn't matter what country they are published in, though I tend to buy Aussie mags more as they cost less.
Otherwise I normally read them cover to cover in the Library.
cheers
RufflyRustic
On a recent trip to Vic I purchased a US based wood mag called "Woodwork"
It had Wendy Maruyama on the cover..April issue. They have a us website and the mag is excellent. I think it cost about $10 au.
I have tried to find the distributor but no luck. Has any of the Vic woodies seen it and know where I can get it in Aus?
Alf
Actually I like a DVD magazine called woodworkingathome (look here http://www.woodworkingathome.com ) Dean has done a review of it at onlinetoolreviews. I think it pretty good - it is basically a DVD that plays and you can select the segment you want from a menu - it also has PDF transcripts of the projects with plans. I just took a 1 year subscription - 6 issues for $US50.
In the more traditional paper stuff I like the US finewoodworking.
Cheers
Presently subscribed to AWR and have been for a few years. I find the occassional pearl amongst a lot of oysters. Do like the furniture articles especially by Toowoomba Frank. I also find tips about tuning machines worthwhile - such as the planer and bandsaw. I am always in humour about their articles and photographs where the craftman is measured by how big is his handplane or how small is the tenon saw. No photo seems allowed unless there are glimses of these somewhere and no sign of machine tools. Next year I will most likely scan the newsagent for any of the magazines that appear to offer something of interest.
Haven't seen any of the Oz magazines over here - I subscribe to FWW and Popular Woodworking and buy Furniture and Cabinetmaking when there are articles of interest to me.
Don't you find that the issue you can't get your hands on is the one with the continuation of an article you particularly want? That's the only reason I started subcribing - our news agent is useless at holding onto anything.
G'day,
I don't subscribe to any of them, just to the C/T and H/F catalogues coz they're free. :D
I lurk at times in the newsagent, after looking at any g/design magazines I might wandder over and flick thorugh the mags mentioned. Might get one one day if has something I want - but first I have an endless desire for more and more tools in the shed. :D