another big man!!!!!!:doh: do the population a favour and get a vastecomy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tubby2
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another big man!!!!!!:doh: do the population a favour and get a vastecomy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tubby2
Yeah shame there are too many red necks out there. My goodness and I thought this forum was sensible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan in Oz
Anyone thinks that it is entertaining to hurt someone else's family pet really needs mental help, seriously!!!!. If you have kids what sort of example are you setting for them????
No wonder the world has become what it is today!!!.
Maybe admin needs to shut this one down!!!
damien, I have taken my moderator cap off, dont worry about it, remember some members like to stir up a bit a bit of emotion.:D
oh i am not worried, i realise there are messed up people in this world. Hopefully they will stay in their trailer park away from anyone i know :D
fair is fair. The next time one of the many various neighborhood dogs that wander into my yard to defecate and urinate everywhere, I am going to feed it ratsak wrapped in mince because it annoys me. :)
Why dont you pick up all the cat crap and return it to your neighbour. I'm sure he will appreciate a bit more then. Even in his letter box better still.
I am a dog person, wife is a cat person and we have one of each. Yesterday I finished the outdoor cat run for stupid (cat not wife:rolleyes:) and he is loving it. We are growing natives to try and bring in wildlife so don't want any cats (ours or others) using our yard as a hunting ground. Any cats found in our garden will be gone, if you cannot responsibly own a cat (keep it under control) and live near me then don't expect to see your cat again. Many new housing developments have covenants with cat curfews or no cats at all due to the problems they cause and their irresponsible owners.
Corbs
Damien, no-one is talking about coming into your yard or house to hurt your family pet.
BUT, keep your animal in YOUR house, where the nuisance it creates is YOUR problem.
There's been several threads along these lines that I can remember, and each time there are a few small-minded imbeciles who post DIY remedies such as those above. Whether it is in seriousness or to get a rise, it is about time the moderators got off their asres and deleted those posts when they occur. I'd remind the moderators of the rules of this forum:
By clicking on the Agree button when you register to become a member of Woodwork Forums you warrant that: you will not use this Bulletin Board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.
I'm sure all of those posts fall under one of those categories.
It is about time there was a zero tolerance to cruelty to animals.
Cheers
Michael
Which of course includes those selfish uncaring cat owners who allow thier cats to roam at will slaughtering defenceless native animals who have no natural instinct to defend themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-d
Any cat outside of its yard should be shot DEAD on the spot.
Oh hang on, out of mind out sight and cats are just so cute hey :rolleyes:
Perhaps one of the differences here is that there is a [ another ] difference between
City Dwellers and Country Ppl who depend on the land for survival.
Out here we have
Cats
FERAL cats
Dogs,
FERAL Dogs / Dingo Cross
Horses
FERAL Horses
Pigs
FERAL pigs
Foxes
Indian Mynas
Sparrows
Starlings
Cane Toads
Yellow-margined box turtle
Argentine ants
Fire Ant
Here are some more,
few seem "Silly" but are a real Pest
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/q...3556/sch3.html
Which are the Problem?
The introduced ones.
Which should we dispose of or not dispose of ?
Similarly with Plants,
Lantana,
Mother of Millions
Cane needle grass
Giant rat's tail grass
Wild Turnip.....Very Very Pretty:doh:
The lists go on.
As I've said on previous occasions, there is always a dumb human behind problems like these (cats, toads whatever). Animals do what is instinctual and when this conflicts with the local ecosystem, restrictions need to be applied by humans. NO animal deserves a cruel death or torture, and in the urban environment, no domestic animal deserves instant death else a situation like the 7 year olds story might follow. I don't see you jumping up and down about human sprawl and developers that not only kill poor defencless native creatures but remove their homes too. In the end we humans are resposible through our direct and indirect actions for the vast majority of ecosystem degradation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dazzler
chew on that
Cheers
Michael
It is all very well to philosophise on the why and who is responsible. As a small landholder in the country (25 acres) close to a regional city (Bendigo) the problem of feral cats, and to a lesser extent feral dogs, is a real one.
Most of my neighbours, and I, have to live with this problem and deal with it. The normal way is to set cat traps and when caught administer an overdose of lead.
If that offends some people, then I would suggest they come and visit my property, or properties like it, and view the result of feral cats on the environment.
The problem is real enough for Bendigo Council to take positive action and legislate for a cat curfew, which is a step in the right direction. Making it illegal for people, except recognised cat breeders, to own cats that have not been de-sexed would be a very good next step.
Being a country dweller my view is that the only good cat is a dead cat.
Well Michael start a thread on human sprawl and I'll join in with you, or perhaps you havent been reading the global warming thread where I identify that humans are damaging the planet and that we need a sustainable human population and to live with nature.....do keep up :wink:.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-d
Of course I am not condoning torturing cats....just making the observation that cats torture to death millions of our native animals each year but thats fine for thier owners because they dont see it. My first wifes cat did bring her bunnie wabbit once, well two halves, one half in the lounge room and we just followed its insides to the dining room to find the other half....I bet that bunny wabbit had a wonderful death :)
As for cats....I'll meet you half way......any outside thier property should be HUMANELY put down.....see, we can always find a middle ground :D.
So what I propose is a govt sponsored trapping programme in cuddly soft cages put all over the countryside and any trapped are humanely put to death.....surely you cant argue with that :?.
"Dazzler and MicD sitting in a tree
T, R, A, P, P, I, N, G "
cheers
dazzler
Thier not silly, have you SEEN how many Asiatic Elephants are clogging up the roads north of Bundaburg.......its a disgrace :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ivan in Oz
Damien / Mic-d,
Are your cats restricted to inside your house? If not how do you prevent them leaving your property when outside?
HH.
They get a stern talking to before being let out..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by HappyHammer
Go Dazzler, i totally agree with you, as a cat hater myself it's people like Damien who seem to have no problem with this useless flee bag killing our wild life. Is it any wonder some of our native animals are facing the endangered list. I am not saying that cats are to blame for this demise, but they certainly are not helping the problem. What really gets me cheesed of is i have a dog and i keep it in my yard, unfortunately cat lovers seem to think that they don't have to abide by the same rule. if i had sats destroying my garden i would firstly approach my neighbour and depending on the response i get, if it to be like stiff s**t mate, then the cat would be getting a nice saucer of milk with a couple of asprin to fix the headache. And don't worry Damien they don't suffer for very long.:((:((:((:((
why is it considered acceptable to kill someones pet cat if it strays into your yard?Quote:
Originally Posted by smeds
Is it acceptable to slit the throat of the dogs that continually use my backyard as a dumping ground? Going by the cat haters logic, it would seem yes.
I don't have a problem with the killing of any feral animals. It should be law that all cats and dogs are desexed when sold/passed on as pets.
Martrix, damned right it is.
I'm fed up with neighbourhood pests. A plague on all of them.
Before this thread I didn't know the efficacy of aspirin and panadol for dogs and cats. Now I know a way to rid our neighbourhood of the 24-hour barking, whining menace that the council chooses to ignore.
A pity it doesn't work on dirt bikes being illegally ridden on public land. If someone can solve THAT problem for me, I'll be a happy man.
Matrix passing a law for animals to be desexed before they are sold is not going to solve the problem of the crapping in other peoples yards, as to your problem with the neighbours dog doing just that have you thought of putting up a fence to stop it from entering your yard.
With the dog you tie him up and the council comes and takes him away, calls the owner and they pay a fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by martrix
Cats on the other hand are feral if not in the owners yard so I spose we agree :D
smeds, are you one of those "responsible" dog owners that assumes it is everyone else's responsibility to keep YOUR dog out, not YOUR responsibility to keep YOUR dog in?Quote:
Originally Posted by smeds
I have a neighbour like that, when I complained about his 3 dogs continuously entering our property I was told to improve the fence!
My reply was, YOUR dogs, YOUR problem, YOU fix it!:doh:
Asprin in a bowl of milk I heard ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Dunn
Dont give em a free kick smeds......just when we was winning :pQuote:
Originally Posted by smeds
No Big Shed i am a responsible dog owner, i keep my dog registered with the council in case it does get out, it is also microchipped so if it does get lost it can be recovered and it is desexed and i make damn sure it stays in my yard as i have a 6ft fence all the way around. If you have a problem with your neighbours dogs entering your yard via your fence then fix said fence and you have the problem solved. You could even approach the neighbour in question and both fix the fence, as i understand in most states fences are the responsibility of both parties. If you can't get a favourable response from your neighbour you could always do the flaming paper bag of dog s**t in the paper bag at his front door, might not fix the problem but hey it would sure be good for a laugh. Also how did we get onto dogs when this thread was about mongerl cats.:?:?:?:?
Glad to hear it smeds, so many dog owners assume that other people love their dogs just as much as they do.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by smeds
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Originally Posted by smeds
Yes, the fence is the responsibility of both owners. Several problems with that though, first of all it is 600m long, secondly it is in good repair, just not dog proof (standard square ring lock) It certainly doesn't hold out his dogs.
Anyway, the farmer next to him on the other side has now fixed the problem. His dogs got amongst his sheep once too often and he did what farmers do in that case (and are legally entitled to do) shot them.
Neighbour has finally got the message, and new dogs, and built a proper dog enclosure. If he had done that in the first place he would still have his dogs.
Don't know how we got on to dogs, I only responded to your suggestion that someone should build a fence to keep his neighbours' dogs out.
Good to hear Big Shed, just hope i didn't cause too much animosity with my banter, i just couldn't let a chance to stir the pot as i did pass me by. I have to ask though, 600 metres of fence, how many acres are you on you lucky sod.
If i did offend anyone though, i sincerely appologise:U:U:U
Here you go smeds
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Originally Posted by smeds
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Originally Posted by Big Shed
We're on 25 acres, he has 29 acres, the blocks are triangular and we share the long leg of the triangle.Quote:
Originally Posted by smeds
He has 3 kelpies (2 are the legal limit:() and we would need a fairly hig fence to stop them jumping over it, I don't think I would like to foot the bill, or even half, for that.:o
In answer to this yes. Every night our cats are in by about 7pm and they stay in ALL NIGHT. During the week days, the cats normally dont go out at all except for maybe a 1/2 hour after we get home. I prefer they dont go out during the day whilst at work so that way they dont have a chance to annoy the neighbours. On the weekends they are outdoors whilst we are home and then they are always in the yard or on the house roof (one of them likes to sit up high???) If we go out they come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyHammer
I completely agree that if it is a family pet it should be desexed. Both our cats were desexed before we got them. Only registered breeders should have pets capable of reproducing.
I also agree that ALL cats should be kept indoors at least during the night. That is when they will do any hunting. Please remember that they are natural hunters so if owners want to make a difference keep them in at night.
Your a lucky barsteward Big Shed, i am very jealous of all the land, i only have 2 acres but unfortunately they are not the land type lol
Yes, much the same regimen here too.Quote:
Originally Posted by damien
I want to know why no moderator has responded to my previous post requesting that all posts advocating cruelty to any animals (whether tongue in cheek or no) should be deleted. Hmmmm?
Perhaps they're all busy setting up the Vivisection forum?
Maybe they think all cats are useless too..:rolleyes:
Just a reminder that if you find a post offensive, the way to notify the mods is to report the post which is done by clicking the red triangle with the black mark in the middle.
Otherwise, we'd be here reading everyword of everypost.
Thanks people
I didn't think any of these posts are tongue in cheek, else the posters would use smilies.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-d
Anyway advocating culling of cats is not cruelty.
Peter.
ah ok didn't knowQuote:
Originally Posted by watson
Cheers
Michael
I fully second Watson's post.
And along those lines, there are a number of subjects that I can't even be bothered reading past the title, either because it is the same old crap over and over (and no, I'm not referring to useful topics that happen to reoccur....), or because it looks like it will become so.
I've said this on a number of occasions, as much as there are 'formal' moderators, the forums have as many moderators as there are members. In some instances, a reply post will be enough, or sending a PM, or a reddie. As Watson has pointed out, report the post - might be worth reading the forum rules again because reporting is definitely documented there. You might not have the tools to lock a thread, delete posts, edit posts etc, but reporting it will result in it being read and considered by (typically) a number of moderators. The action taken may not always be visible either, there is a lot that happens in the background to keep this place running as smoothly as it does. If you report a post/thread, that post/thread WILL be assessed.
Do keep in mind, there are only a few moderators, and this place is HUGE.
No, but some methods suggested are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
I also should say that I'm all for culling feral cats in country areas. I grew up in the country and I used to hate cats in the same irrational way that some have voiced here. And I am not unaware of stark realities of life in the country. I grew up on a dairy farm and one of my enduring memories is of dropping litters of pups in a hessian bag into the waterhole on the way to school and burying them after school - several times. That's just the way the farm operated- I now know better. I also now know better that cats are not evil, devious, cruel creatures in any kind of cognizant way that a human can be cognizant of such things. Humans have a duty of care to the ecology which includes the humane treatment of all those mistakes we have introduced. In the city, I'd say the majority of stray cats are owned by one's neighbours. We've evolved the faculty of speech and communication, why not use it to educate those irresponsible owners (which might include highlighting your right to trap them and deliver them to the pound)
I ain't going to say anymore on the subject.
Cheers
Michael