One of the guys just had a look and as far as he can tell its either origon or kauri.
sand it up and we'll see.
dont worry old bleached origon is pretty special once sanded and finished.
Astrid
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One of the guys just had a look and as far as he can tell its either origon or kauri.
sand it up and we'll see.
dont worry old bleached origon is pretty special once sanded and finished.
Astrid
cheers for that i got one of my cabinet making friends coming round he is pretty well up on his timbers .... i will see what he says ............ i am lost with it
he said put a laquer on it not sure about that ..... could i still oil it ???????
If its going outside oil is the only way to go IMHO.
(This is where I duck for cover):U
besides that the timber looks pretty dry and needs a feed (oil)
but it will have to be pure oil
Astrid:)
Its definitely not Oak.
Whatever, finish you deside to use, do a small section and then wait a week to see if there is any reaction?
Its so much easier to strip that small area then it is to do the whole table.
come on macs ... what timber is it ????????
ima do a test piece underneath save any stripping
Do your sample on top, as the bottom is not "aged" unless you want to use the bottom as the top. You want to make sure whatever coating you descide to use that it gets good adhesion, oil can be a tough canidate for good adhesion unless you remove it.
Cadidz, If I knew what it was, I would have told you in the beginning.
With your new photo, you should find out soon.
Good Luck
surely any porous timber would suck the oil in right ?
the only time i have seen a disaster with oil was wen it was sprayed on to a kapour deck ,, dried very thinly then flaked in the sun...... nice
what other thing could go wrong ?
yes dry timber will suck it right up because its thirsty.
keep putting it on untill it wont take any more.
but get that sander out and finish the prep first.
then well have another look
I have asked a few of the guys to have a look at your pics and they will get back soon.
a cricket bat has to be fed dosent it?
This is an outdoor table and will be a rustic look not a fine french polish.
you need to preserve the timber and thats what oil is for.
Astrid
ok i just found out what they are
Kauri top (which i am really pleased about)
and Baltic pine legs, am really pleased with
:U
Neil gets the prize then - what is it? (ref post #18)
Goodo,
now youve satisfied your curiosity, get the ridges down.
see the cracking on the edge of your pic, that i think is because its very dry.
some of those long scars will steam out, see earlier post.
If the table is as mistreated as this one, your prep is really important to make it gently rustic,
this often takes more time that a fine finish on a dining table.
got to blend its imperfections into a pleaseing whole.
Oh and do make sure your oil dodent have a synthetic hardener or it wont feed the timber just sit on top
have fun
Astrid:)
I'm not sure that Niel gets the prize though,
Ive worked a bit with old kauri and never seen raised heartwood (if thats the harder rings) like that.
but i have seen it in dry oregon.
look closely at the last pic.
but I'm not a timber person, I only work with old wood.
Come on guys, anyone else prepared to venture an opinion?
Astrid
Cazdids,
Was is determined if the "oil" on the table was a drying or non drying oil to start with, and are you down to the raw wood now.
Neil, was right when he said, it was not OAK, so he will always be half right.
Caz, do an Internet search for photos of those that were already mentioned, you might get lucky and find your answer.
yeah down to the raw wood ,,,, i did a test piece and it sucked it right in was dry in about 5 mins B.E.Autiful
Pure Tung oil
just got to get the sanders out now and ima finished
i have loved doing this table its given me the bug.......
thanks for the comments and help
i will post some photos
David
Astrid, cazdids stated in an earlier post that he/she had found out what they are (presumably after a cabinetmaker friend identified them for him). Are you saying he is wrong? :? See the following quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by astrid
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Originally Posted by cazdids
Again, I'm lost as to why his identification has been discarded without discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacS
Groggy ima not sure what your point is but thanks anyway
i am quite satisfied with the identification
That's what I thought. I am just wondering why Astrid and MacS still seem to doubt the identification. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by cazdids
well i thought it was oak lol .... never seen kauri before
just because of the grain ( but it was a mess )
can i mix a bit of varnish with the oil ???????????????? just for that extra shine
just oiled pure tounge oil
Could Anybody Hazard A Guess As Too The Age:u
Look Great
I think i's about 1920's
Groggy, this isnt a competition,
I have worked a lot with old kauri and have never seen the soft wood shrink away like this, but i have seen it in old really dry oregon.
there is a reason that it matters as that if the timber is this dry, its going to suck up a hell of a lot of oil.
there may be a better way of finishing
my suspision is partly supported by the timber in the skirts that sure as hell aint kauri.
but as i said im not a timber expert and would like somone else to take a look.
Niel is a big bloke and can defend his own corner.
And yes cabinate makers can be wrong just like you and I, especially if you talking old dry timber that they mightn't see so much of
Astrid
i dont think this cabinet maker was wrong he picked them from the other side of the garden ........ and works with kauri all the time....
he said it was very old maybe pre 1900 but legs made later
its just a hobby to me i dont really take it that serious
David
Looks really good,:2tsup:
let it dry and put on a few more coats.
next project?
Just cross posted,
I picked 1920's because of the legs, after all a slab of wood is a slab of wood.
I wouldnt add varnish wont stick well to all that oil.
when its well fed and dry. give it a good hard rub.
Astrid
Astrid, I've re-read the thread and my comments and can see why you have interpreted my comments that way, I'm sorry for that, it wasn't my intention. The comment on Neil's post was simply acknowledging his apparent accuracy.
I was interested in knowing why you BOTH seemed not to agree after a cabinet maker has seen the timber first-hand, rather than photos, which make it harder to ID timber. I personally find it difficult to identify wood, it is a skill I don't possess, and, if two experienced people disagree on the identification given, then I figure there must be a reason, therefore something to be learned - hence the confused smiley :? .
Not a problem groggy
see you on saterday
Astrid
will post some photos . had 4 coats of oil now
it blistered in parts today because of the heat ,, but thats ok i just sanded scrapped and reoiled ,,, beautiful
well try to keep it out of the sun, and dust
astrid
You sound like your loving the finishing, keep it up it gives one a good feeling when it comes out well.
yeah sure have enjoyed the finishing......... paint stripping was boring ....
as for my next project ,,, i gotta put more collar ties on my pergola/deck before it blows away lol
also a ceiling in my games room ,,,the gardens,,,,,, my ensuit......
plus starting a 14 million dollar nursing home project at work ,, prolly 60 hours per week
might get time to squeeze something in but i doubt it ..... i have spotted a kauri side board with plate rack ' all painted up for 150 bucks what do you reckon...............worth a go ?
Buy it, and save it?
Match it up with the table.
If you didnt enjoy stripping the table legs then you really will hate doing a dresser!!
I did one last year, ended up sending to dippers to get the paint off.
was sealed with calsomine.:no:
Funny that one came from SA as well.
needed a lot of sanding after. but was stunning when finished.
was about 15 hours work involved.
but for $150 bucks I'd go for it.
Find a dipper that uses metholine chloride not costic
somtimes these have old blue or green paint under the top coat so if your clever you can turn it "french provincial"
but be carefull not to shabby chic it.
Astrid:)