Something is bothering me all morning

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I couldn't care less. It certainly won't increase the crime rate. They do the crime, they get the punishment and they won't be around to offend again.

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This is a good point. Are we punishing first and preventing second? Or the other way around? Is the purpose of sending a person to prison to provide a warning to others? Or is it to punish the person who commited the crime and prevent them from doing it again for the term of their incarceration? Which of the two is more important?

Threatening people with fines or imprisonment doesn't stop people from committing offences. Maybe the threat of corporal or capital punishment would. Maybe not, but it would give the victims some satisfaction. Hand me that cat o' nine tails.

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Originally Posted by Ashore

I think the perpetrator is a little unballanced , needs an ounce of lead behind the left ear, and I for one would be happy to assist in his balancing.
My deepest sympathy to the poor girls family and I hope that in time they come to be at peace, though I feel this may take a very long time if it ever happens, some help would possibly be if the animal that did this horrific act was also gone.
Regardless of your views on capital punishment , can anyone tell me why I should have to pay to feed and clothe this thing, and why it should not be just removed from this earth so that there is never a future threat as well.
Call it a knee jerk reaction , give all the excuses, but that crime was pure evil and needs to be dealt with accordingly.

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Whilst I agree with most of your content, the first paragraph is flawed, right should be included for sake of correct and certain balance.
I am not taking this lightly just have nothing to add that hasn't already been said, and having my own little demons gnawing at me after a fatal accident (young boy about 10) I may have been able to help avoid if I hadn't left my mobile phone at home.

Would love to see the statistics of repeat offenders?

Having spent 20 years in a correctional (?) environment, I can assure you that most customers are regulars.

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Originally Posted by Grunt

Many of people in the U.S. have been wrongly convicted and executed over the last few decades (25 in the last six years). DNA evidence has exonerated them. Sadly it was discovered it too late.

The justice system is flawed. It makes mistakes.

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So based on that, you'd let them off the hook ? So that in 20 years some do-gooder parole board is convinced they are 'rehabilitated' and out they come. Take Mr Baldy for example, he shouldn't be out but he is. You keep missing the point, some are absolutely guilty with out any shadow of doubt. Are you saying that Bryant shouldn't be dangling on the end of some twine, just because a few mistakes may or may not have been made?

I'm saying don't execute them. Keep them in goal for the rest of their lives. No parole.
The people in the U.S. who were wrongly executed were guilty without a shadow of a doubt.

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Originally Posted by Two-Words

do-gooder parole board is convinced they are 'rehabilitated' and out they come.

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It is apparent you have no concept of who makes up a parole board and the Act that governs the operation of the same.
Have a look at how they work before passing judgement, not that I condone every decision they have made.

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Originally Posted by Iain

It is apparent you have no concept of who makes up a parole board and the Act that governs the operation of the same.
Have a look at how they work before passing judgement, not that I condone every decision they have made.

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Iain, you are correct, I have no knowledge of who makes up the parole board. Nor do I care. I can only judge them on the farcical number of times we read about offenders being let off early, sent home to complete their sentences etc etc.

Their record is appauling. If only they could be made accountable and liable for crimes committed by people who are out on parole, maybe they'd act differently.

Just like the legal profession who believe that suspended sentences are actually a sentence, when in fact we all know that it's crap. The crims are laughing at us all the way home. Public pressure on idiots like Hulls has brought that scenario to an end and i think the same will happen with all this leniency - eventually.

A suspended sentence does serve to put pressure on the recipient in as much as if they should offend during the period of the suspended sentence they get a new sentence plus the time of the suspended sentence to serve as well, the same applies to good behaviour bonds and warnings.
They were introduced to take the pressure of prison overcrowding which has become a major problem over the past couple of decades.
As the population of Australia continues to grow, so does the prison population and villains in general, in percentage terms, probably little has changed.
Of course the suspended sentence can be negated by the Magistrate/Judge running the terms concurrently, which they can do with any multiple charges.
The Courts administer law, politicians make law (with a few exceptions).
Capitol punishment was abolished in 1974 I think, however, Corporal punishment is still on the statutes (in Vic anyway).

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Originally Posted by Iain

A suspended sentence does serve to put pressure on the recipient in as much as if they should offend during the period of the suspended sentence they get a new sentence plus the time of the suspended sentence to serve as well, the same applies to good behaviour bonds and warnings. .

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Which means that if they don't misbehave during that time, they have actually avoided any sort of punishment at all. Hardly what I'd call fair or reasonable.

The justice system is just a pi22ing contest between the prosecutor and the defence lawyer. They dont give a toss about the victim or the offender. In the end both get paid. As for our judges ........ something not right there as well......
Why have a parole board? If you get x years, then serve the sentence.
Now you get rewarded for good behaviour after you ruin someones life?
Why do you think we have repeat offenders? Because it is better inside than outside, no tax, free medical and dental, free access to legal documents/ assistance, why you can even send mail to your victim!! Access to gyms a good diet free TV, free internet, etc. etc. Do you think these morons could make it outside? NO WAY.
As for child killers, molesters etc. they should be put down and not "suffer" at taxpayers expense for the rest of their life as per above.

this thread is serving no valid purpose, closed.