"But in the end its your funeral"Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc
or your wheelchair or hospice bed
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"But in the end its your funeral"Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc
or your wheelchair or hospice bed
I reckon we spent about 3.8million years evolving to where we are now.
We only got 90% of the crap chemicals in the last 40 or 50 years.
If you need the crap chemicals to stay alive, please don't bother breeding. :cool:
Okay Cliff, I'll stop now. I'm sure Al will too :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
Richard
Well I guess we won't have to worry about you dirtying up our gene pool for too long.... but please can you stop pisssing in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
Why? Does it upset your chemical balance??? :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Christopha
I have been following this discussion with some interest. As a pharmacist may I venture some information.
The side effects listed on medication sheets are there because at some stage someone has experienced them. It may have only been one person who suffered the effect in testing but the drug companies list them all to protect their backsides- it does not mean that all people are going to suffer any or all of the side effects.
If we all read everything about any drug we would probably never take anything - it really is a case of the potential benefit over-riding possible side effects
If anyone is bothered by any side effect they should return to Dr and discuss it. Unfortunately with blood pressure medication it is often necessary to try 2 or 3 different drugs before finding one that really suits a particular person.
Lifestyle will certainly help (watching weight and diet, regular exercise etc) but often it is necessary to resort to medication for long-time control thus hopefully preventing strokes, heart attacks etc.
Hope that helps
It is a pity that Al's doc didn't prescribe that first instead of going straight to drugs. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chesand
Its not the killer heart attack or stroke that's the worry it's the one that leaves you alive and needing someone to wipe your drool away for the next 5 or 10 years. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
At least see another Dr for another opinion.
Me again, yep Im still breathing.
Here is the latest.
I told my brickie partner about the visit to the Doctors, and the list of side affects.
He is 22 years old.
I mainly had worrys about what to do with him in regards to our working relationship, he was bugging me so much I was going to end the partnership even though he is a top bloke and a bloody hard worker.
Lately he has been goofing off and leaving all the hard work to me, repetedly I have had to tell to watch his quality, if the quality slips we have to redo the work.
Time and time I told him, last week Id had enough of him being "spaced" out.
He would come to work, but he wasnt there if you know what I mean?
Today at smoko I showed him the list of side affects that are possible from the tablets.
So hes sitting there reading them, then he started saying, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
What are you saying yep too said I?
Then he tells me he has been taking the same tablets for the last year.
The only side affect he didnt suffer was the dioreah (sp, I know its wrong)
He would hear me and not know what I said, he thought he was laying the bricks alright.
He then said he stopped taking them last tuesday because he had "lost" time when he was on them.
So its seems I was right in not taking the pills for a minor increase in blood preasure.
Since he told me why he was, but wasnt there, all my worrys have gone.
Cheers, Al :)
Al, most blood pressure pills don't make yer dopey etc.
Tell yer idiot quack the crap she give ya is useless for a tradey.
22 & on BP drugs? :eek:
We are cranky 'cos the bloody doc wants to put Gina's 85 YO Grandmother on BP drugs....
She is 'as fit as' & the only reason her BP shows up as above normal is 'cos she is sheyet scared of the doctor.
Doctor Cliff, I presume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
Have you tested her BP when the quacks not around?
Testing kits aren't expensive.
I've had a computerised one for about 10years. ;) :D
Al you are 51, not 22, its not a fair comparison.but think about it, you work with this bloke and you didnt even know he was on the medication. i bet a lot more of your friends than you think are on blood pressure medication or some other medication, and you just didnt know it, particularly friends around our age and older. take the pill and see if you get the side effects, if so tell the doc and get a different kind, repeat as necessary.
Dont be a dill, take the pill
so what medication is everyone on? I take avapro and lipitor. lets all come clean and show Al he is in good company;) ;)
I know, sad isnt it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
I have avoided drugs all my life like the plauge, but when Im sick I reluctently take them.
The Doc who examined me didnt even ask what I did for a living, diet, life style, smoke, drink etc.
So I was a bit suprised when she wrote a script out so quickly, I was in the room no more that 5 minutes tops, what a joke..
Al :(
Nope, but, & I quote...Quote:
Originally Posted by doug the slug
"he was bugging me so much I was going to end the partnership" :cool:
Now you sound as silly as my Quack.Quote:
Originally Posted by doug the slug
Pere pressure want make me take a pill.
I have a mind of my own and use it. :)
Al :confused:
Well he does work with Al :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
What about your height/weight ratio?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
Sounds like he wasn't going to be for much longer if he kept taking them. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by doug the slug
No nothing, cuff on, inflate, release, write script.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
Ow, sorry I forgot the $50 that changed hands in 5 minutes.
Al :eek:
There is a new mean for the term 'retail therapy' ;)
I lead a very heathy life style, dont smoke, but do drink red wine.
Dont eat junk food, but have a moment of weakness from time to time.
Have a very energetic job ( bricklaying)
Dont eat lollys, sweets, chocolate etc.
I am not over weight, in fact I find it hard to put on weight.
Have a home made sandwich for lunch everyday with a banana ( when I can afford them :p ) and 2 apples.
Drink maybe 5 cups of coffee a day.
Al :)
A-oh! That'll be the problem... too much coffee. :D
ozwinner
Sorry mate but good bye.:(
Cliff.
You are #$# dangerous.:mad:
I think its funny how all of you have made a diagnosis to my "problem" without even seeing me.
I cant even recall what the reading was for the BP test, but it was only just slightly above "normal"..
Are you all Doctors?, if not, you should be, as you have given me more time than the Quack I saw on monday.
The cheques in the mail.....:D
Al :p
Why, where are you going? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidG
Dangerous is my nick name. ;) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DavidG
I am absolutley amazed at how easy it is to get most of you to pop a pill, just because a "Doctor" told you to take it, no questions asked.
Al :confused: :eek:
Congratulations, David. That's the silliest thing I've read this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidG
How on earth can you make any kind of judgement on Al's life expectancy based on what he has posted here!
Al theres a few of us who wouldn't be here to harass you,
if it wasn't for the pills.
:D :D
I'll lay odds that's where the concern comes from, :)
we don wanna hafta break in a new mod. :p :p
Al, if you wasn't so gawd damned flamin' UGLY the quack would probably have taken a bit longer about it. He was probably just concerned for the contents of his own stomach!
The secret's out Al. The doc was trying to get rid of you ;)
Richard
who is a good boy and does what his doctor says ... but I can see Al's point too, I just ask a lot of silly questions while in the surgery :D
I had another BP reading tonight with another health care proffesional.
150/80 was the out come.
Al :)
the 80 is fine Al, but the 150 is a bit high. I hit the pills at 180/110 which is to high. The lower reading is the most important, looks like you might have to stop stiring the pot for a while. Have you thought about yoga? I'm told if you can get really flexible and bend over far enough the things you can manage are quite mind blowing. Mind you there is meditation, relaxing music, those wanky tapes telling you to be calm.
For me it's stuff it, take a pill and go to the shed.:p
John
Like ACADACA?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnc
Al :D
:confused: You've lost me there Al, but I just noticed the typo with a calm "carm"Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
John
Calming music like ac/dc...
Al :p
Tick Tick Tick
HJ0
Whatever rocks yer boat Al:cool: . Slade, Deep Purple or Meat Loaf work for me, or is that why mine shot up:eek: (the BP that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
John