power point wiring

I haven't posted for a while because,
1. haven't been making much sawdust lately :( &
2. I used to post a bit of electrical stuff (I'm a sparky). It's a bit of a broken record on here when someone asks these types of Q's, all the sensible advice is to get a sparkie and at the end of the day that's really the only advice a public forum should offer, hence my lack of responding now to such questions. As someone already said if you gotta ask then you don't know what you're doing and it's dangerous stuff. It's not like asking how to glue up a panel where the worst that can happen is you waste a few bucks worth of wood, this stuff will kill you.

My2C worth, going back under my rock now...:p

Reg.

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Originally Posted by Sturdee

Not so hypothetical.

A friend and former employer had the misfortune of his place of business, incidentally it was very profitable, burn down.

Fire brigade experts could not prove the cause of the fire and although the police investigated no charges of arson where laid.

Nevertheless the insurance company refused to pay out on the various policies of insurance (building, contents, loss of profits etc,) claiming arson by the proprietors and thus policies null and void.

So they had to sue the insurance company in the Supreme Court, and in due course (18 months later) they won and cost and interest were awarded against the insurance company.


Peter.

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Similar case in QLD, there was a bloke who's house burnt to the ground one night. The insurer refused to pay out even thought the police the fire dept and even the insurers own investigators said it was 100% accidental.
The insurers reason....he was an ex-firefighter and would know how to light a fire so as to make it look accidental. And once again the insurer was taken to court and lost:D.

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Originally Posted by spartan

You see, when I bought this house I got a building and pest inspection, it says stuff like we don't inspect electricals, plumbing etc etc....But all seemed to be in workable order....

I would therefore propose that it would be extremely hard for an insurance company to prove who or who didn't install electrical wiring.

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I know this may sound a bit finiky but when I bought my first house (58yr post WWII house) I paid a sparkie $150 to completely check over the house and write a report for me indicating the state of the wiring, what needed fixing and especially whether all the wiring was meeting current standards. Fortunately all the wiring was good, but as ashore noted

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but under the heading FIRE in the policy it reads we do not cover loss or damage caused by .....risk passed to you as purchaser of your home

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I had covered my ar*e in case something happened

Different rules in different jurisdictions.

Last year I got my workshop closed in and ready for wiring. (Shed size 12m x 6m).

The sparky who has done alterations and minor additions on our house in many years past said he was flat out, and happily allowed me to install the wiring and fasten up the 9 double fluorescents, and install the wiring for the lights, 6 double power outlets and 2 hanging chain outlets, but to make no connections, and then to call him to do the connections and wire up the switch board (which I had fastened in place). He then certified the work.

(The NZ system is that sparkies self-certify, and their work is then randomly audited by the licensing authority.)

HIs part of the work took a whole afternoon,(Saturday) and he complimented me on the neatness of my wiring, which needless to say pleased me.

Perhaps some deal like that might be possible in your part of the world.

ROB NZ

Rob NZ, I did the same thing earlier this year when i built my shed. I was comfortable running the cabling and mounting the lights and switchboard, because i had been given clear instructions about what to run where and how. I was also told not to make any terminations. The Sparky giving me the advice, and who finally fitted off and connected the power, was one i use as a subcontractor to our construction business, so it was easy for me to ring him up and ask "stupid questions" while i was roughing in the cable. My point is that, like most things you havent done before, it seems easy until you start to do it, and find that it is complicated. Most of the labour is in roughing in, so that is expensive. Thats what tempts us to do it ourselves....