Am I being Pedantic, a PITA or just Getting old and Grump[ier]

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Originally Posted by Iain

Do I assume that KEWL is COOL, if so, why launch into digit gymnastics when cool requires less effort and is grammatically correct:confused:

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Iain,

My sentiments exaclty, I just don't get it. In fact I'm rather reassured that no one else appears to either! I don't use it, don't like it, but that doesn't mean I am not aware of the language.

I suspect that your parents would have argued that "cool" was in fact not grammatically correct, that perhaps you shouldn't describe something as "grouse" and that "groovy" was not a description that should be used to describe anything that didn't have lots of grooves in it.

All of those things would have been described as "sick" a year or two ago, but as an aging grumblebum I can't tolerate the use of that word unless it involves at least, a high temperature and a headache.

The term "Newbie" is another that grates hard on my soul. Surely we can spare the two extra letters to greet new chums in a gentlemanly manner!

Cheers,

P (who for many years before SMS has saved typing the extra four letters in his Christian name!)

:D :D :D

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Originally Posted by Wongo

because it is dangerous to send a long message while driving.:D
(Originally quoted by Vicky Pollard):D

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Yep!!

When I was on my Motocycle, at a round-a-bout;
I Got clipped by a 'Driver' who was SMSing

"Sorry, I didn't notice you."

YEAH!!
Saw me but I didn't register.
I was on a Motocycle,
so I don't count anyway..............:mad:

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Originally Posted by Iain

Do I assume that KEWL is COOL, if so, why launch into digit gymnastics when cool requires less effort and is grammatically correct:confused:

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'Coz it takes longer to type OO instead of EW as typing double letters takes more time as there is a delay before you can type the second letter.

Also, you're all getting old. SMS is the new way to communicate, if you are less than 30. Our folks were complaining about our language, long hair and rock music. They were old farts as we are now. :(

I do agree tho, that SMS style writing is not appropriate in these or other internet forums.

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Originally Posted by Grunt

Our folks were complaining about our language, long hair and rock music. .

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:D You never listened to Rock and Roll. :D

Al :p

Nothing but Perry Como for me.

I must admit I did iritate my Father by calling people Mush (pronounce Moosh), I laugh now but it's probably not much different.
And we came from a farm in the UK, bit of a rarity, and my teachers used to hate it when to get their attention I would start with 'I say', bit of the Terry Thomas:D :D :D

Max Bygraves Id beleive!!

Al :p

You've still got that bloody LP haven't you:D :D :D
Might just sneak in and burn it on the 16th:p :p

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Originally Posted by Iain

I must admit I did iritate my Father by calling people Mush (pronounce Moosh), I laugh now but it's probably not much different.
And we came from a farm in the UK, bit of a rarity, and my teachers used to hate it when to get their attention I would start with 'I say', bit of the Terry Thomas:D :D :D

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Ok mush face. thats enough from you!!!

Al :p

I say! You there! Did you have to mention Max Bygraves? I'll have you know you've ruined my day! That's quite put me orf my cucumber sandwiches! :p

Surely you mean Qcmber?

P
:D :D :D

Ahaa, unmasked, the masked one is no moor than a masked masked one.

Al :confused:

Where the hell is that reddie I was so prommised???

I absolutely hate talking on the phone, be it Mobile or Land line, Its a rude form of communication, it instantly demands your attention no matter what you are doing, then the other person thinks I'm being rude when I tell them I'm busy and I'll call them back later, They tell me they will be busy later.. OOOOOOOH But its &&&&ing alright for you to &&&&ing call me when ever you &&&&ing well want and demanding my attention but not the other &&&&ing way around!!!!

Sorry got a little personal there.
But that helps explain something, I don't like calling and I don't like recieving calls, I will text message you, I will email you, I will communicate your request for communication when I damn well feel like communicating with you and you may communicat with me when you feel like it.

OOh sorry yeah as I was saying, I don't enjoy talking on the phone prefer using text message or email, so I do a lot of text messages and find it takes to long to text someone without shortening the words!

I don't tend to use it on the internet because its actually faster for me to just type what i'm thinking.

One thing I truely detest is american english creeping into australia, like ass, my dentist was using that word, every time she said it I would shudder vilantly, she eventually asked and I couldn't stand it, I just had to tell her hahaha

Oh lord, I think I'm getting old.. but i'm only 23...

OH OH My bad, I got a reddie hehehe
Al, mate, come on.

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Every gets old......

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Should that not be

Every one gets old
hehehe
Sorry I can't help my self right now

When I was young I too believed what I believed, now I am older I still believe what i believe, would you believe?
Today I met abloke from Ulster, after 2 minutes into our 2 hour conversation, I didn't hear his broad Irish accent, I heard through it, especially when he started talking about his old mates including one "yer Maun".

A greenie to whomever knows whom I'm referring to;) .

Ulster is on the north-east corner of island of Ireland, so he was Irish
OOOH Do I gets a green lil green friend or was I wrong and my geography really needs some work? Or are you actually want a person?

The person would be the focus, young canine:) .

Joey Dunlop ;)


(had to look it up...)

WTG Silent, Joey was a Motorcycle Racers Racer, absolutely had potato sized ones, posted his fastest times after he turned 40, then was killed. Woulda loved to have watched him ride up close & personal. His nickname translates to Joey's your Man= Yer Maun
My point about the accent still stands, ince you understand, the communication will flow.;)

I soo would have absolutely gotten that one had I been someone else!

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Originally Posted by PuppyPaw

One thing I truely detest is american english creeping into australia

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I soo would have absolutely gotten that one had I been someone else!

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Sorry to have to tell you this but there is no such word as gotten. :rolleyes:

Except maybe in the context of, "That was good, gottenotherone??"

P
:D

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Originally Posted by craigb

Sorry to have to tell you this but there is no such word as gotten. :rolleyes:

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Yeah but no but yeah but……

I tried it in Microsoft Word and I did not get an error microsoft thinks it is a word so it must be a word.:D

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Originally Posted by craigb

Sorry to have to tell you this but there is no such word as gotten. :rolleyes:

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You are wrong, you just have to be wrong, it is heard on yank sitcoms constantly, therefore it must be right:p
Along with Aloominum, Boot Camp (my pet hate, we always called it Rookies and it was a damned sight tougher than US boot camp) erbs (little green plants to flavour food), take out, I could go on..............

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Originally Posted by craigb

Sorry to have to tell you this but there is no such word as gotten. :rolleyes:

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gotten is a past participle of get:) e-mail sms and forum writing is helping breed a new breed of bad english. cant imagin wat it will be like in 10 years. Sister Alphonsis would smash me over the knuckles 10 times both sides if she seen how slack i has become:eek:

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>got&#183;ten http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...4/JPG/pron.jpg ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ghttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...GIF/obreve.gifthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g.../GIF/prime.gifn)
v. <DL><DD>A past participle of get.</DD></DL></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>See, you blokes have gotten all worried about how bad English as become. English is a living language and therefore a changing language.

I actually think that the Internet and forums like this help with people's writing skills. I bet there are plenty out there who only write in emails and on forums such as this.

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Originally Posted by Grunt

I actually think that the Internet and forums like this help with people's writing skills. I bet there are plenty out there who only write in emails and on forums such as this.

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its helping with their creative writing skills but the standard of grammar is declining.

I gotten apples and I ate one. How manys left?:D

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Originally Posted by Wongo

I gotten apples and I ate one. How manys left?:D

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2 no how many apples ar left, how manys had you gotten in the first place before you eaten the first won! :confused:

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Originally Posted by redwood

2 no how many apples ar left, how manys had you gotten in the first place before you eaten the first won! :confused:

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10

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Originally Posted by Wongo

10

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U have ate and 2 halvs left

So mate is m8 but 8 is not eight, even ate slows things down

o f n l, e n. (fonetic, because ph would be too (2) hard)

ICDC
UCDC?
I CDC2

NME not a friend
NMR some enjoy this
NMNE a flower
LN girls name
R4 boys name

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Originally Posted by redwood

U have ate and 2 halvs left

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Nein

From the Compact Oxford English Dictionary:

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gotten
N. Amer. past participle of GET.

— USAGE The form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English, though even there it is often regarded as non-standard.

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My original post was a reference to puppyboy's professed dislike of American English.

So there. :p :D

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Originally Posted by Iain

Along with Aloominum, Boot Camp (my pet hate, we always called it Rookies and it was a damned sight tougher than US boot camp) erbs (little green plants to flavour food), take out, I could go on..............

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solder pronounced sodder ......

Really, who gives a f#ck. Beware the return of the spelling/grammar nazis.

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Originally Posted by craigb

From the Compact Oxford English Dictionary:



My original post was a reference to puppyboy's professed dislike of American English.

So there. :p :D

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Gotten is in the Macquarie dictionary as proper word, not a a colloquialism. In my book the Macquarie is the definitive reference for Australian English.

I don't care, they are wrong. :p

What does gotten provide that got doesn't ?

I would have expected better than that from the Macquarie frankly.

Does it have dove as the past tense of dive too? :rolleyes:

Actually, I think you will find that the Macquarie's charter is to provide a description of modern Australian word usage, not to be the arbiter of what is right and wrong.

This is the problem we face because like it or not, over time a common error becomes entrenched in the language and thus it changes. For example, contractions like "don't" are perfectly acceptable today but I bet there was some knuckle rapping that went on when it first started to become popular.

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Actually, I think you will find that the Macquarie's charter is to provide a description of modern Australian word usage, not to be the arbiter of what is right and wrong.

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Youse is in the 4th edition as a colloquialism. It's in common use and thus becomes part of the Australian vernacular. It would not be an acceptable word in formal writing. Gotten however is.

How about 'ill gotten gains'? Hard to justify saying 'ill got gains'.