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Hello Peter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
I am very sorry to hear that. You have made a wonderful contribution to this forum, and I would much prefer that you stay.
Perhaps a little cool-down, and then the temptation to see what's going on will encourage you to come back:) I hope so!
Cheers mate!
PS: Maybe you could conjure-up a behaviour jig (and I don't necessarily mean the "Iron Maiden":eek: :D
can we leave the muddy boots outside please? its starting to look untidy in here and it is putting me off.
how about we read the rules, respect the fantastic thing the Ubeaut team is doing for us all, and get a little bit of respect for the community that is on the forum?
I used the word "community" - thats what this place seemed to be.
For example:
Doug is taking trips around the Sunshine state with another forum member, visiting forum members on the way;
Termite is asking for tips on retirement from the retired members;
Shannon is asking for tips on explaining a pets passing away to children;
Waldo and Kylie are taking a very rough road and we are throwing our support their way;
Some fellas in Japan are giving us tips and great stories of what it is like over there;
E. malacuta shared the passing of his Bessiebear, and made Caliban (and I) teary;
Savage shared some pretty personal stuff with us and made a lot of us cry;
A lot of the members have met and are now mates.
And on and on and on... the forum reaches into peoples life and makes us part of a community.
Or we swear and throw uppercuts at each other. That's part of a community as well... how about we just do it a bit of gentleness?
Yours,
(someone who has gained far more than he has contributed)
I dunno mate, I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but when did this place become so touchy feely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clinton1
Zed would say: "You're all a bunch of purse carrying Nancys" and maybe he'd be right.
Lignum had his say, and to tell the truth I didn't particlulary care for his 'tude either, but the hand holding and backscratching that has been going on around here over the last few days is starting to become a bit nauseating in itself.
Lets get over it and take on board what my mate silentC says:
"It's all part of the rich tapestry"
Peace
Craig
BRING BACK THE BIFF
You two give each other a cyber hand shake, but I'm with Craig. With so many people stating their opinions and a few hot topics coming up now and again means that some will disagree. So be it. Have your say then move on. Keep the personal shyte to yourself but lets not get too soft.
Dan
PS Where's Kenmil when you need him...:rolleyes:
Craig and Dan, you two are terrible.:D
Geez, look what happens when I'm away, sigh!
Lignum, I believe Sturdee was actually being very humble, honest, upfront (which deserves respect) and paid you a compliment in that he seriously thought about your line to "g..a..l", how it applied to him and what he could do, would do and has done about it.
Sometimes an off-hand(?) comment strikes home very hard and makes one re-evaluate where they are in life. Has this ever happened to you? Maybe this isn't where Sturdee is coming from, but if I was in Sturdee's shoes, this is how I would see it.
Of course, this is my humble opinion and you don't have to agree with it.
Sturdee, I respect your decision and respect you for letting us know what and why. I hope you have many happy times dancing with SHMBO.
cheers
Wendy
As I said before, it may be a generational thing. I do use naughty words to make a point, or add some humour, but never with the intention of offending anyone. In particular Sturdee, who has been extremely helpful to me, and has my respect.
Surely, it's no big deal, lets move on. Like DanP says, nothing wrong with a bit of biffo.
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Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon
Do you lot lay awake at night not being able to sleep because i used the term "get a life"
Looks like i wont be welcom anymore.
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Originally Posted by Lignum
I can't think of anything to say without offending anyone. It must be something to do with the phase of the moon or something. It would be very disappointing to lose a member like Lignum over something like this. With all due respect to those who have called for it, I don't think he has anything in particular to apologise for. We're all grown adults here, aren't we?
Sheesh, if I had a dollar for every time I've offended someone or been offended...
Lou, you're a classic...
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=24333Quote:
Originally Posted by silentC
And your problem is? :confused: :pQuote:
Originally Posted by silentC
Well, I read through this, and started wondering to myself if this was a normal part of "the life cycle of a bulletin board".
Surely we can't be the only folks in the world demonstrating these behaviours?
Anyway, I did a bit of googling, and this study looked like it had some reasonable likenesses to what I think I see going on.
http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol10/issue4/kavanaugh.html
Seems to me the BB has matured to the stage where there are a group of members who feel strongly-ish that they belong to this community, and are prepared to act in order to preserve it. I'm not educated in psychology or any other field of human behaviour (nor am I a Triton demonstrator), but I found it interesting in the above study that Education, Extrovertism and Age were three factors which predicted one being strongly involved in communities.
On-line communities can be more prone to flaming etc. due to participants not expecting to meet face-to-face. (Makes sense to me). This would give the caring members more incentive to try to preserve the community in whatever ways they felt best.
I'd love to know if anyone finds any hard info on this sort of study.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Originally Posted by silentC
Darren, I find your comments offensive.
:D
Mission accomplished!!
Lots of about group interaction, and moderating, and more info here:
http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/2005..._altruist.html
"such as this study using MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) that shows that our brain's pleasure systems are activated when we altruistically punish."
So, some members are getting unhealthy stimulation of their brains' pleasure systems from saying "naughty, naughty" to others:D :D Betcha didn't realise that!
And, BTW, I'm offended by both Grunt and SilentC for ignoring my valiant attempt to move this discussion to a higher, or at least slightly different, ground.;)
(Hmmm, not sure that did much stimulating for me...)
Cheers,
Andrew
Sorry, I was thinking about it, although I don't have time to read the article. I'm sure a sociologist would have a field day with the posts to this thread and others.
I don't think this forum is any different to any other 'community' where you have a bunch of vastly different people brought together for a common reason. Once the novelty of discussing your favourite topic with like-minded individuals wears off, the underlying differences start to show through.
Some people you get along with famously and others are always going to be at arm's length. I guess that things don't really change all that much from when we were children in the schoolyard.
I've been called a bully, which is certainly a new one on me. I did give it a go once with a kid just to see what would happen. His sister punched me, so I gave that experiment up pretty quick ;)
Generally, I enjoy myself here. Some of the heated discussions I think get a bit out of hand. I watch my kids going at it and it's no different. Escalating violence I call it, with neither side wanting to back down. We all want to be heard, we all have our views. Here you get to rant and rave uninterrupted. No-one can shout you down. I can type what I want and press the Post button. You don't have to read it of course, but then when you're arguing face to face, who really listens to what the other guy is saying anyway? Buggered if I do. It's my opinion that counts!
Nah, all perfectly normal stuff. It's a shame, we should be able to rise above the petty business of everyday life and talk about the esoteric subjects we all love - but at the end of the day we're all human animals and that's just what we do.
what a bunch of purse carrying nancies.
a) get over yourselves
b) let go of whatever you are holding, either yourself or your grudge
c) get on with it
d) dont get offended - laugh it off
e) enjoy your cyber personality, dont suffer from it (or anyone elses)
f) kumbayah....
Well said Zed, ya big Nancy..................
Apologies for using the term "Nancy", I still remember Allo Allo where Renee says "Yes my brother and I both come from Nancy so we are Nancy Boys"
A great comedy, must buy the DVD's.
From the mouths of babes, and nose-picking monkeys.
Well said Zed.
What the heck is going on here?
Stick to bloody woodwork and all will be happy, (or at least the silent majority) I remember this forum from last century when the subsciber-ship(?) was so small that we practically knew each other personally. Time and evolution means that like all things this board has changed, whether for better or worse is a matter of opinion.
But the solution is in our own hands, if we don't like the heat we can get out of the kitchen!
So we have to stick to woodwork even in the Nothing to do with Woodwork forum? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by JackoH
I think we should move every forum to Open Slather. Ya pack of hand bag toting, blouse wearing Nancy boys.
Ohhh, Grunt...GET A LIFE !..you too Craig, Jacko etc..
I’m amazed at the heat and responses this thread has generated. Definitely not my intention and it definitely was not my intention that Lignum was made to feel unwelcome. :o
I have told him that privately and now publicly that I don’t want Lignum to leave.
It has become a mountain out of a molehill, so please let us all reduce the mountain back to a molehill and make everyone, including Lignam, feel welcome.
Whilst I did have a problem with his post, and I still think the phrase “Get a life” without the right smiley, indicating a joking manner, is rather insulting and playing the man not the ball. But I readily accept that this was not Lignum’s intention and there is absolutely no need for him to consider leaving.
I did see his posts and did not reply as in the heat of the moment I might have played the man and not the ball as well, and said things that later I would regret. Probably a mistake on my part and for the extra angst that this caused I apologize. :o
However I believe my post was justified in trying to get members to take stock of what has been happening and hopefully bring reality and respect back into it. Not surprisingly, I’ve heard of quite a few others who have become lurkers again for similar reasons.
As I’ve indicated in my opening post I’m not yet leaving but I’m drastically curtailing my online activity because of time constraints as my rekindled enjoyment in dancing has been making big inroads on my time. This change in direction or “ Getting a different life” whilst reducing my online activity does not mean I won’t be around to make the odd post as I have time.
I'll also will keep answering any questions on the various jigs I've posted, but sometimes a pm might be needed to alert me.:D
Peter.
Sturdee?
Are you still here? :confused:
I thought you were going to get a life & build a jig, dig a jig, & dance a jig...
how are we supposed to talk about you if you keep coming back? :D
There's a disappearing echo in here. :confused:
I'm sure I saw/heard that line about 3 hours ago but now it's gone. :rolleyes:
So does that mean it's ok to rubbish soccer still? lol
No the soccer playing pansies will cry.Quote:
So does that mean it's ok to rubbish soccer still? lol
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Why not? We don't stick to woodwork in the other forums!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by craigb
Jack,Quote:
Originally Posted by JackoH
Haven't you just answered your own question??
P
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Ho Hum.....
Yes, so I have!:rolleyes: I rest my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
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I think Chris is getting the point!
Now you see it, now you don't.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers