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Mental problems and their relation to 'recreational' drugs usage is a chicken and egg argument

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True, however what the studies DO show at the very least is that, given a predisposition to this type of illness, there is evidence to suggest that drug use creates episodes that may not have occurred otherwise. Can you say that a heroin-addicted individual currently being treated for schizophrenia would have shown symptoms at all if they had never taken drugs? How many people are walking around now with a genetic disorder who will never know they have it because it is never triggered? I just think there is too much that is not well enough understood to be able to make definitive statements about it one way or the other.

I don't think we are in disagreement Silent.

I'm not arguing drugs do not precipitate an episode. As to whether a person would suffer an episode if they hadn't used drugs, no-one can say.

Equally can you say that some poor bugger with schizophrenia who does drugs, would have done so had they not had the illness? There is well documented research on 'self medication'

I guess all that I'm solid on is that (with aforesaid exclusions) illegal drugs are not the sole root cause of mental illness

Absolutely. So getting back to my original point, these drugs were banned not because of a perception that they are bad for our health, but because the yanks decided back in the 50's that they were immoral. And I bet that can be traced back to some form of religious fundamentalism.

In fact, you can probably trace the current push to discover that these drugs have serious long term physical side affects to a desire to provide a scientific rationale for a superstitious act. Well, I do love a good conspiracy theory ;)

Don't mention the Relig.... word, we shall be immediately rusticated to Orange County.

If they want to say that ###### causes long term ill effects on the mind then they are going to have to replace morphine as the number 1 pain killer.

We could all do with some more morals if you ask me. Something thats missing from society and everyone seems to think it was a bad thing driven by religious freeks. Anyway lets not get into all that, I just think some of the morals we used to have were not such a bad thing, its just a shame morals have such a bad rep. Soon there will be none left at all.
Oh well, i'll be in my shed working so who cares :p

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Originally Posted by Gingermick

If they want to say that ###### causes long term ill effects on the mind then they are going to have to replace morphine as the number 1 pain killer.

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Heroin is a much more effective pain killer than Morphine. Trouble is that doctors aren't allowed to prescribe it to people who really need it. Eg terminally ill cancer patients.

For the reason they aren't allowed, see silentC's posts above.

Yes it's much stronger. but works in exactly the same way so it should have these mythical psychosis inducing properties as well. And there are enough people on long term Morphine to do a fairly comprehensive study on that. I say Myth Busted.:D