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10/10 for getting out of the fine but Im afraid Im going to have to award you 0/10 for wasting court time....Im sure there were more deserving cases waiting for their day in court. Why didnt you voice your objections as soon as you got the fine??Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy
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Originally Posted by dazzler
Another six tickets over the weekend (one at 50 km/h over). We plan the arrest thing but are just checking with the legal dpt as we were told not to go that option. We were hoping to get him with a manner dangerous or conduct endangering so we could seize the car. His parents are calling VicRoads tomorrow to beg them to cancel his licence.
mutanti,
Can't say the offences but you're pretty close to the mark. Have since been told by one of his mates that he was much faster about 30 secs before getting checked.
Dan
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Originally Posted by craigb
Hey Dan, But the way I saw Him driving Im surprised you havnt already thrown the book at him.
5 more this weekend - That has got to be some sort of record on top of the other offences.
Im guessing the local paper this week may have a speil on him.
the sooner hes wearing out sneakers the better.
Only A matter of time before some kid chasing a ball onto the road gets cleaned up by this hoon if he ends up driving around till he loses it, hopefully not 28 days or whatever the time frame is.
P.S. I could be wrong but I think You know me, - You may have been one of the officers that drove a truck into work to collect rubbish in small truck ( one of the other jobs you may have done with some of your other work collegues 18 months ago or so.. :) ).
If we threw the book at him any more we would run out of books. :D
I know of you but it wasn't me. Molly and I spoke about you today and I reckon we've figured it out. He did some work at Meiji picking up rubbish.
The local paper has been given the heads up and will probably run a story this week. Front page last week was a bloke doing 219 km/h on his motor bike. Got caught and wore his year off the road with good grace. Although he did give it a squirt trying to get away ;)
Dan
I also worked with Mollys wife (Passed away) and kids many years ago at Tuckerbag / IGA.
Great family. (Heard something about Molly on bus trip to footy or something with some of the boys years ago - Good Laugh, Ask him about it)
Still see Molly every now and then as I pass him on my way to work while hes out mowing his lawn around the corner from me... :)
Also worked with another collegues son at the factory in my office - He was on work experiance.
Just to add a touch of unreality to all this.
Donkey's years ago, when the very first speed cameras were introduced, a motorcycle magazine showed a photo of one of their journalist's exceeding the speed limit. The thing is, by the time the photo was taken, he'd already fallen off (locked the brakes when he saw the trap) and was photographed sliding down the road on his back. Funny pic. Didn't send much of a message of course, but funny just the same - you have to remember that in those days, if you didn't travel at 80 kays around Squidley you were abused whether you were riding a bike or driving a truck (I lived there for some time).
Then there was the bloke many years back in WA who got booked, by radar I think (twas a long time ago) for doing 230 on his new bike. His answer, on television, was that he'd only just bought the bike (new) and had heard that it could do those speeds and wanted proof that it could ... so he found a radar trap to prove it. He lost his licence for some forgotten period and was still smiling, claiming it was worth it. Takes all kinds to stuff up a world.
Cheers
Richard
Seen one similar to that right before the bike slid under an oncoming truck. :eek:
Dan
No, you don't want to do that. It hurts apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanP
I saw a double fatality in the blue mountains years ago. An E-type jag went under a semi. The E-type was unmarked except just in front of the no longer attached windscreen. The driver and passenger were ... well, you can work that out. Funny thing was, I was in an open MG at the time.
Richard
They say speed cameras are only there to raise revenue, an attitude I tend to support, BUT, and this is a big BUT, for the first time in living memory, everyone travels at something like the speed limit. I'm serious. I've owned three MGBs and it's only with the third one that I've realised that top gear is too high to travel at 60. With my first, in Squidley, I'd often travel around with the overdrive on and I wasn't fast relative to everyone else.
Arrr, the joys of being and old bastard who can remember the good old days when cars and bikes were so shocking that you could explore their limits with some hope of surviving. These days, you have to go so fast to find those limits that you are unlikely to survive the experience despite all the air bags and crumple zones and such like.
Yes, I was a rat bag in my youth ... well, middle years. I was a nerd in my youth - used to drive a Hillman Minx ... like they were designed to be driven. But once I discovered sports cars (I blame my Mini for that, even if it was an ex PMG van) and then motor bikes. Well, let's just say I'm glad I'm a lot older than Dan P is (he would have enjoyed booking me). I was exploring scraped footpegs and bevelled boots in days when it was still possible to do that. The last really fast bike I had was the second GSXR 1100 and I couldn't walk on those boots thanks to the bevels ... all earnt on the race track I might add. But in those days, it was possible to scrape a footpeg on the road. It wasn't long after that that if you touched a footpeg down, you'd fallen off. And it's got worse. I spent nearly ten years teaching kids to ride and even in my last days, I could outride most of those around Mallala race way on my old SR500 when they were riding the latest rocket ships, rocket ships that I knew I'd never even attempt to wind out to their limits - we used to get new bikes to test then and they scared me.
And cars are as bad. I went from bikes back to MGs - had the two side by side for a long time, and the performance vs lack of ability of the drivers shown on driver training days had me worried. It's worse now.
It doesn't matter how 'safe' cars or bikes get, it doesn't matter how 'good' they get, in the end, it's the idiot attempting to control the thing that counts.
And I'll wind up this little rantish sort of waffle by relating the story of a mate of mine who used to terrorise the lads in their sports cars in the blue mountains outside Squidley ... in his MORRIS MINOR. **** I was scared on those drives :D
Cheers
Richard
have to dash, the home made pasties are ready for tea :D :D
speaking about speed cameras have a look at this site http://www.speedcam.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index2.htm
the best pics are those of the damn things blown up.
Richard...did you take part in the MG auction last night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddles
No. Didn't even realise it was on until I saw a spot on the news, not that I could have anyway with young kids. How about you?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwigeo
Richard
determined to raise money over there arent they? Love the placements of some of the cameras (hidden behind signs, in trees etc etc)...and the shots of them blown up are pretty good too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy
Reminiscent of Johnny English, British Superspy and the rocket launcher :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by womble
All spare cash currently being funneled into workshop fit out. I have a soft spot for the MG though....love the MGA....nobody's really made a sexier car body IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddles
I don't have a problem with speed cameras. They are all clearly signposted long before you get to them so if you get pinged you are probably getting fined for being dumb rather than speeding. Speed cameras are usually placed in 'black spots' and I think there should be more of them and they shouldn't be signposted.
I do, however, have a problem with the positioning of some radar traps. I travelled down to Lake Cathie the other day and passed a number of crosses on the side of the road in the 100kmh zone. About 50 metres into the 50kmh zone at Lake Cathie there was a radar trap. If that's the local area commander's idea of good policing then we are in serious trouble.
Here in SA, the signs are after the camera, not before it, they aren't all that clear and you do see occasional efforts to disguise them - that last bit isn't the norm so I'm guessing it's one or two operators with a **** attitude to their job. They are supposed to be at black spots but they aren't, not even close. They are always at places where they will catch the most drivers. Whether that is a bad thing or not, I'm not sure as it's not too often now that you see them used as obvious traps, more just sensible placement.
I don't like them but if used sensibly, like most seem to be here, I'm not getting too worked up. The average speed on the roads has clearly dropped so they are working that way. Whether this relates to a reduced road toll is questionable. There just aren't enough people killed here to make statistical judgements - the sample is too small for the number of variables.
If however, the placement and the issued fines are abused though, the operating department deserves to get kicked hard. I've only had three camera fines and the last of them about eight years ago - it was for doing 64 in a 60 zone, on a downhill run. That sort of thing seemed to be rife in those days but doesn't seem to be now here ... unless I don't go through enough cameras :D
Cheers
Richard
When I did my training to become a m/c instructor, we were given a report on accidents, not just fatalities, but all reported accidents. The most dangerous speed proved to be ... 60km/hr. Mind you, our instructor was quick to point out that this probably owed more to the fact that everyone who has a bingle immediately claims to have been driving at the speed limit, rather than admit they'd been speeding :D
Richard
Obviously never been to VIC. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian
Or Qld...... but I always figure that if one get's caught, then one wasn't alert enough to be driving at that speed.
If you don't see the van/truck/nice policeman with the gun (that was for Dan :D ) then you probably wouldn't have seen the small child on the tricycle whizzing out from behind the same bus shelter.
I still rather like the old MG slogan from the 50's "Safety Fast", but of course there aren't too many places where that applies these days, and "fast" then was 70mph (about what "safe" maxes out at on the road and certainly not fast by today's standards!)
The really unsporting ones are the "over the horizon machines" that get you from a couple of k's away coming in the opposite direction. Even if you have slowed to a reasonable speed because you have seen the car over the crest of the next hill...... it's too late!! :mad:
cheers,
P
I think Id better stock up on used tyers, for sale only of course. :rolleyes: :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain
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Al :D
I'm terrified of driving back home now. Thanks! :eek:
Here, the fixed cameras are on huge gantries that run across the road. Pretty hard to miss. Best part is that before you even get that, there is a nice automated sign that tells you that you are going too fast and should slow down.
Occasionally, they have a big pie plate looking thing on a tripod that catches you out, but the police actually pull you in and give you an opportunity to explain. Easy enough for me I suspect but I don't know as I have not yet been pulled over (profusely touching every piece of wood in the place right now)...;)
To add insult to injury, the posted speed limits are on average, 20km/h lower than Oz for a given piece of road. 2 lanes in both directions, 60. Toll highway, 80. Small residential street, 20. Doesn't matter very much though as the police usually don't care too much as long as you don't do stoopid things like run red lights (my personal pet-hate here) or drive like a fool/drunk. Even if you are 10-15 over, they really don't worry about it most of the time. Of course, 30-50 over and they will plead with you to pull over, and I'm not kidding.
It's a completely different kettle of fish here, but at the same time it works quite ok here too as the whole way of thinking is a different kettle of edible swimming creatures.
At least they stopped the strange warning chimes for when you drive at over 100km/h. Annoying as heck, and prolly makes you drive faster to get it over with. ;)
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If they knew them :D
at least your humour hasnt suffered John :D ....Hang in there mate
Pete
Hey DanP
I was out for a drive with my nephew from melb again ( L Plates ) this weekend and saw the serial pest still driving around.
Im assuming he hasnt gone to court yet? :eek:
No not yet. He'll lose it on points long before then anyway.
Lose it on Points, What - He still has some ??
I would have thought he would have lost them for the first few offences... :eek:
He did, the process just takes a while.
WHAT ABOUT THIS THEN
An English guy 100 years of age as just been fined for speeding. Says it was the first time.
I bet he has had a lot of freebies. ;)
Hello all,
happy to inform everyone that the matter has been resolved in............................my favour!....
Massive thank's for all the positive and informative response's to my dilema. Thumb's down to the people who said I had 'buckley's' chance of having the penalty withdrawn, it never hurt's to try if you honestly think you are in the right. Thankfully, negativity roll's off me like water from a duck's back! Also, if anyone ever need's to write an offical type letter, can highly recommend a book published by "Choice" called 'Put it in Writing'.........
Martrix,
You weren't in the right. You were given a warning based on your good history. Congratulations.
Dan.
BTW the fine is now $524 for unreg.
Talking about untimely infringement fines...is there ever a timely one?
I suppose if it's someone elses....
Yes, sorry you are right DanP, I worded that part wrong..http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ons/icon11.gif......Quote:
Originally Posted by DanP
the other week i went to the vidio shop and a car was pulling out of a spot so i parked there, when i was coming out of the shop there was a cop giving me a ticket for parking there, i asked him why and he kindly pointed out that the parking sign had been changed a week ago to a no stoping sign, i told him that someone was here before me , and he said that i should send the ticket in but no money and with a letter explaining , so i did that and got a nice letter back saying that the fine still stands $155...i go to this shop all the time and it is in a little side street so the spot i was in was not disrupting traffic,and people still park in this spot all the time...i am going to send in another letter, and see what happens ...
I don't know if anyone else here comes from the Channel Islands, but I grew up, largely, in Jersey.
In common with the larger islands (Jersey & Guernsey), there are two different police forces; one, the regular police and, the other, the Honorary police.
Having something of a feudal history, Jersey has 12 parishes, and each one has a "Connetable" (Constable) and, in sequence, a Centenier (nominally in charge of 100 men), a Vinghtenier, with 20 men, and then the hoi polloi; all of whom are elected. None of these Honorary police has a uniform, but - only they have the power of arrest! If the regular police want to arrest someone, they have to get the Constable or Centenier of the parish in which the alleged offence took place to authorise that arrest. Makes for some curious pantomimes, I'd imagine...
A key point: being volunteers of good standing, the majority of Honrary police hale from the farming community.
Anyway, the honorary police also have traffic duties (the mind quietly boggles, but there you go...). During major public holidays, especially Christmas / New Year, said honoraries have an alarming tendency(generally after suitable refreshment at a local pub, something that farming types have a tendency to do - there anyway!), to congregate in hedges around the countryside, and then leap out into the road in front of unsuspecting motorists, one hand firmly clutching their little enamel lapel badges of office, and the other indicating their wish for said motorist to stop. I don't think that they'd heard of a gentlemen by the name of "Buckley"...
Well, you can imagine! Unless one is familiar with the ground rules here, or actually knows the lunatic who's just leaped into the road in front of you, there is a certain tendency to swerve around the bugger, probably telling the oaf to be a bit more friggin' careful...
Mind you, it was surprising how many they managed to catch, mostly doing what they oughtn't be doing - toio fast, too slow, bald tyres, or as pi$$ed as they were :-/
On the plus side, at least when I was growing up there, most of the honoraries knew the great majority of people who lived in their "patch", and one was more likely to get a clip around the ear and a "watch yourself, or I'll have a word with your father" - an altogether more ominous threat than a mere fine, let me tell you!
Of course, such methods work well in small communities, but probably wouldn't work very well in larger ones, never mind cities.
Sorry for blathering on so...
Cheers!
I imagine during the period 1940 to 1945 things didn't work that way though :(
Hey DANP Havnt seen the worlds worst hoon latley.
Its seems safe to walk the dog down the street.
Im guessing he's walking now for quite some time..
:rolleyes:
G'day Jow,Quote:
Originally Posted by jow104
Too True!
My father and grandparents had some intersting stories, but mostly not at all anti-German. In fact, although towards the end of the war, especially from November '44 through to May '45 (Liberation), most of the Whermacht soldiers were starving even more than the local folks (no imports, at all), so the farming communities, whilst struggling could, just, get by. Somewhere I have an old ration book from my grandmother, and for an adult it was something like 50gm margerine, 200gm bread, 200gm meat per week! These are entirely from memory, so could be very wrong, but I do recall looking at the food intake numbers and thinking, "how the blerry hell could anyone survive on that"...
What was very different, and something not all that many people know about, was the really quite large numbers of Eastern European and Russian PoWs that were brought to the islands from mid '43 and used as, quite literally, slave labour under the Todt organisation.
These "Death's Head" black-uniformed ******** were loathed just as much by the regular Whermacht as by anyone else.
These poor sods, who dies like flies in winter, built a number of roads, but also, and more importantly from the German point of view, a very large number of fortifications, underground C&C bunkers, underground hospitals (for the German troops, of course), munitions dumps, and Lords knows what.
I do know that in the early 60's some attempts were made to remove some of these monoliths, using commerical explosives, and whatnot. Didn't make a whit of difference. They're all still there.
As a lad, there were (and presumably still are) in St. Peter's Valley, and other places also, a huge number of tunnels; tunnels easily large enough to drive a truck into, hidden behind all sorts of camaflauged entrances. Boys, however, have a way of finding these things...
Unfortunately, I knew two lads who, in quite separate incidents, found their way in and also found, inter alia, some cases of munitions. Twenty-some year old munitions and small boys never was a happy mixture.
Many of these tunnels are now (or at least when I was last there) used as anything from mushroom farms (!), strawberry farms, or simply tourist attractions.
Cheers!
So Steve, what were you drinking to bring on this thread? Hmmmmm?
Good premis for a novel though. Especially the honorary coppers of the inebriated variety.
Cheers
Richard