Fletty,
How is your hand coming along mate? Good I hope?
Cheers, Redbog (Harry)
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Just thinking.....
maybe I should get Evanism to have a go at a new finger for me..........?
:B fletty
I still think there is a consumer remedy available for this
"have spare parts and repair facilities available for a reasonable time after purchase unless you were told otherwise."
now I gather these were bought some time ago but the exact same item is still being sold
Trouble is there dowsn't seem to be a Bessey Australia
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-2...d-heel/5830432
It will change the world. Manufacturers, here be warned!
Earlier this year I was having radiation therapy for a runaway bcc that became a tumour in my nose bone. As an engineer, and fascinated by the process, I asked if there was a Plan B. I was further fascinated when I was told that Plan B was the surgical removal of the bone, 3D scanning IN THE SURGERY, 3D printing of a replacement, insertion of the replacement ......all in the same procedure!
The future is already here!
fletty
Have you progressed any further with this Fletty? I suspect that these are made in China for Bessey by Xian Wellwork Industrial Co. Ltd.
Any forum members thinking of buying this type of clamp would be well advised to purchase the Carbatec or Gasweld version both of which are made by Ehoma in Taiwan. A better product at a similar price and available in 3 sizes from Gasweld. http://www.gasweld.com.au/quick-gear-clamp-300mm
Strange you should ask! Yep, modelling has just started which is just as well because I now need 7!
It still annoys me though that Bessey probably receive them by the sack full at 0.0764Dm each and 7 of them in a postpak to Oz would cost virtually nothing and result in a very happy chappy here?
fletty
Been wondering about this as well as I have 4 of these.
Since the original post I have continued to use them but in the back of my mind has been "this time......." , fortunately not yet but its not something I'm thrilled about as I know Murphy and his mate the FU fairy are hiding in my shed along with a multitude of disappeared pencils.
Fletty, shall we let the cat out of the bag ;)
I think you're right on the UV issue. I have one of these things and it's kept in the dark when not in use. 6 years old and no problems.
Ok you scallywags, listen up.
Fletty contacted me a little time back with a sample. My son is a 3D nutter... So am I, but the student has surpassed the master....
We are developing a direct replacement for the snappy crappy kliklamp toggles in ABS plastic. A few reinforcements and added meatiness to avoid future trauma.
The ABS has significant properties that make it a particularly desirable replacement.... Stiffness yet flexy, terrific abrasion resistance, smooth surfacing, UV stability :rolleyes: and funky colour-printingness.
Fletty is calling by on his trip to sunny Canberra to nail down some of the strategies, but it doesn't really take a lot of imagination.... Find those in pain and sell an analgesic. :U
There are a few other things in development too. Things the everyday woodworker would love, but don't acquire due to cost.... Exciting!
Now there's a bit of ingenuity for you.
Well done to all concerned. :2tsup:
I’m not saying anything ...... other than this forum is a WONDERFUL place...
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fletty
Mine haven’t broken (yet) but it is something that comes to mind each time they are used.
They have been stored in a closed drawer or on a hook on the clamp cart and covered. My triggers are still not discoloured which I suspect is the main problem.
That 3D printer purchase is looking more and more like a thing I need to finalise..... :D:D:D
bit rough when you have to get spare parts fabricated yourself when the importer/manufacturer doesn't live up to their statutory obligations
Manufacturers/retailers are required to honour a minimum statutory warranty on their goods; many offer a longer warranty for competitive reasons. They are not required to sell spare parts, nor are they even obligated to offer repair services (but if they do offer those services, there are requirements around them). They can if they wish copyright their parts designs to prevent exactly the sort of activities being discussed in this thread but most don't bother unless the duplicate is offered in competition.
C'mon WoodPixel,
that's at least 2 threads off the top of my head where you've said that 😁
Just do it! You can make replacement Triton parts, painters' pyramids, custom clips and mounts, dust hose adapters, gauges, Aldi trolley releases, jigs...
You know you need one, so I hereby give you the permission you are seeking!
BTW, they are pretty quiet, fascinating to watch (at least initially), and don't make much mess, so they can live inside.
Thanks dj’,
The plan, should it work out, is to produce a modified design (removal of the stress concentration point where all manufacturer’s examples have so far broken), to use a different UV stabilised material and to produce them in a different colour. I’ve kept the manufacturers advice that they will not supply spare parts and my advice to them that I will make a replacement as the clamp in its entirety is no longer fit for purpose. I haven’t yet confirmed a 3D printer but the plan is to ‘print’ in batches of 10 to get a reasonable quantity discount and then sell privately on the basis that “all sales are for replacement of broken original items”. I haven’t yet worked out what I’ll do when the ‘World’ realises that these are a superior product :B?
Yes Alan, I want to see the 3D printer job please... they are fascinating machines... Cheers, Peter
Two? I thought it more like five :D:rolleyes:
Its absolutely on. Today, with the morning coffee I talked with SWMBO and Factory Slave (a.k.a "Son") about it all. About taking the biz up a notch or eight.
The printer is now... I'm sure you'd be pleased... On The Books.
Factory Slave is a graduate of AIE (Academy Interactive Entertainment) and is a 3D animation guru, so this is pretty close to what he wants to do (other than sleep in, drink all my grog and eat all the food). He absolutely does not want to work as a grunt, so is keen to work within my biz. Excellent :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Fletty did call past once, as did CParks, and discuss a good many things with me. The gears have ground slowly, but it look like "a thing" now....
So, Id imagine its just a matter of getting a list of things people might want together and testing that out.... I'll start another thread :)
Sorry I'll have to disagree
copy and paste from the ACCC website:
"Manufacturers and importers guarantee that their goods:
- are of acceptable quality
- have been accurately described
- satisfy any manufacturer’s express warranty
- have spare parts and repair facilities reasonably available for a reasonable period of time, unless the consumer is advised otherwise."
and given these clamps are still being sold in Australia. I'd suggest that the reasonable period of time has not elapsed
and I also have a few of these clamps and I've never been informed that I can't get spare parts
wabsite address:
https://www.accc.gov.au/business/tre...ts-obligations
I must admit to having been thinking more and more about a 3D printer. I hapen to know where there is a fairly upmarket printer sitting and doing nothing because it needs a few repairs, mmmmm, tempting. WP and I did discuss the possibilities a few years ago, we envisaged being able to print files sent from elsewhere as part of a project I was then involved in but has been mothballed since for a whole lot of reasons.
I'm afraid it's not that simple, since otherwise companies like Ozito or GMC could not do business in Australia (for very long). They maintain a replace-in-whole policy and carry no spare parts or repair facilities, yet they can (and do) trade and did/have done so for some time. Of course I don't know why GMC disappeared, it might have been in response to ACCC pursuit but I thought it was just good old trade conditions. Does anyone know for sure?
Hmmm I bought a spare reversing switch for my Ozito hammer drill from Ozito via Bunnings. I actually rang Ozito to see if they had spares in stock and they said YES..
Geez, everyone is narky on the forum tonight. Must be the full moon. :)
Just to add to the lunacy, I received a notice today directly from Prusa himself releasing a NEW resin printer: https://www.prusaprinters.org/introd...y-josef-prusa/
This is pretty whiz bang, it can print accurately to 0.01mm
You read that right... 0.01mm
Nice!
This service prints metals and high strength plastics: https://www.shapeways.com/
The Kingdom fights back! Needed by members of the forum, programmed by another and now, printed by another.....
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Many thanks to Josh, Chris and Drew. My role in this is to try VERY HARD to break this prototype and to wait impatiently for the 6 I have ordered?
Wow good job. Interested to know what material, infil pattern and % was used.
Is the stl freely available? I dont have this clamp but would be good to have it on file if I ever get the clamp.
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I think that the secret to using these successfully is to pull the handle to release the pressure on the ratchet mechanism BEFORE you pull the trigger to disengage the clamp. Nice job on the part printing, Chris and Drew did the printing?
Guilty as charged your Honour! I provided the CC, Drew supplied the IT expertise.
Are you going to open source it?
We (as in my little biz) are getting things printed far far FAR cheaper than we ever could do ourselves commercially here: https://www.facebook.com/VardonIndustries3dPrint/
I met these guys at the 2019 CanCon (a nerds convention) and they offered every form of printing you could imagine. ALSO, their prices were incredibly cheap. One paid only a per-hour fee plus some sort of trivial volumetric charge for the gooze.
Given the new UV extruders can print up a dozen of these at one single print, it might be worth having them make a few up and sell them :)
If you are interested in self-printing, the offerings available are absolutely astonishing in both price and quality. My old one just needs to be HEAVED OUT and REPLACED! ..... e.g. https://shop.prusa3d.com/en/17-3d-printers and even more incredibly the AnyCubic Photon and even much more incredibly the https://all3dp.com/formlabs-form-2-r...la-3d-printer/
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6 white triggers delivered by hand an hour ago!
Now, where is that 6 th clamp that I threw out the shed window into the long grass when its trigger broke?
Thanks Drew and Chris