Al,
The one I was thinking about is the one that not many people know the words. You could be right, I don’t know the words to it myself.
Can you sing it and put it on the BB for me so we know we’re talking about the same song. :eek:
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Al,
The one I was thinking about is the one that not many people know the words. You could be right, I don’t know the words to it myself.
Can you sing it and put it on the BB for me so we know we’re talking about the same song. :eek:
I read the other day that one of the few films that they won't show on TV in the UK is The Dambusters because one of the characters' (Barnes Wallace maybe?) dog's name was Nigger.
The dog in question was a black Labrador I think.
I have no idea if this is true or not. Maybe one of our UK members can verify it.
Craig (who's wandered off topic again :o )
It was actualyy Cleavon Little (that well known actor) and nigger hasn't been removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
Yes there was a dog called Nigger. At the time, Nigger wasn't really an offensive word in the UK as it was before the immigation from the Caribbean caused racial bad feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigb
Whether this is why the film is not shown, I don't know.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046889/trivia
That is an interesting decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wongo
The obvious answer is that for all men to be trully equal, then you should see him as a man and not as a black man.
But there is the other argument that says you should see him as a black man - but there isn't anything wrong with that. Ie your colour or your religion or your nationality makes you different but not any better or worse.
Simon
nigger was the black labrador belonging to the commanding office of 617 squadron wing commander Guy Gibson, the dog was killed in a car accident the night before the dams raid and gibson asked that the word nigger be used as the trasmission signal indicating that the Monhne dam on the ruhr had been successfully breached (which it subsequentially was), he also asked that nigger be buried at midnight on the night of the raid on the grounds that that was the apporx time that he might be getting shot down and they woudl enter the earth together (so to speak)
barnes wallace didnt have a pet mentioned - although he had a pet test pilot called "mutt"
i musta readthe book a hundered times as a kid.
here endeth the lesson.
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Originally Posted by Zed
Is SA (i never saw what he wrote) an "ugly American" or just an "Ugly person"? do you see a black man or a man?
-Ryan
(who refuses to quit stirring :D )
I'm glad I started this thread. It drives home the point that citizens of the us have a lot of ground to make up the world over. and the only way we can do this is individually.
I think that if any of you traveled to the US (or US forums) you would find a host of people that would welcome you with open arms and warm smiles. I gather this is quite opposite of "the stereotype"? My sister almost married an australian fitness coach. I was proud to know him, but had no thoughts of nationality. He was simply an awesome guy with a cool accent.
Is this post an example of American Egotism? I honestly believe it to be the truth. Sometimes it is the smallest cultural differences that create the biggest rifts.
We have a saying that "the squeeky wheel gets the grease". This is so true, and is why (i think) that folks like "Joe" and "matt groening" are whom the conclusions are drawn from.
even if this thread is only good for venting, keep it going. I'd rather have it out in the open, than muttered under one's breath.
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Originally Posted by ryanarcher
shame really under the ani-mexicanism he coulda offered a lot to the forum with his experience...
Hear, Hear, a sensible american.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanarcher
I have been there and yes the natives of LA and Vegas were very friendly it is just that others spoil it for them.Quote:
I think that if any of you traveled to the US you would find a host of people that would welcome you with open arms and warm smiles.
Don't you worry about that I'll let you know what I think.Quote:
I'd rather have it out in the open, than muttered under one's breath.
Peter.
Hi Everybody,
Bigotry does not become us, nor does any hint of racism or ethenscitiy and gender discrimination.
Name calling or type branding is the first sign of inadequacy.
Hey.......if hes got a biggertree, I want some.....
Al ;)
He's a loud ugly person who happens to be an American. He hasn't been around (AFAIK) for a few days now, ever since I disagreed with his welding expertise. From memory I disagreed with him (I can be very disagreeable ;) ) about a year ago about American woodworking machinery being the best and he absented himself for almost a year. Hmm, maybe I'll keep disagreeing with him :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanarcher
I've got some very good friends who are Americans, and I have American family (he's an architect, but not a contractor or tool and die maker :p ). I've also met some truly abrasive and obnoxious Americans, but they're not qualities exclusive to Americans. On the whole, like the others say, I don't think it makes a bit of difference what a person is, what's important is who and how a person is.
Possibly there is a bit of a cultural cringe in Australia regarding Americans. They have the dominant culture and economy and much of our society (and many others) is being flavoured by this. There's probably also some on this forum (not me, just a little bit before my time) who can remember when the US servicemen were "overpaid, oversexed and over here". There was, I gather some ill will between our boys and theirs when on rec leave in Sydney.
Ryan, seeing you're such a stirrer I reckon we should make you an honorary Australian, that is if you're not stirring and you're not really an Aussie anyway who's just stirring ;)
Mick, who has a pretty multicultural collection of friends and family and who is pretty multicultural himself. :)
I think it was the battle of Brisbane you're referring to Mick. I remember when I was a little kid, my dad showing me the statue he tried to burrow under when a yank fired off a few shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
As usual, the rest of your post is full of commonsense.
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Originally Posted by Zed
How is Anti-mexicanism any different than Anti-Americanism? I'm sure that SA thinks:
"such and such Mexican is, was, and probably shall remain a lazy, greasy, no-good wet-back.
shame 'cause he was a hard worker"
I didn't choose to be american just as a black man does not chose to be black. I do choose however to be a loving husband and father. to have a strong work ethic. to make the best furniture I can. to have the chip on my shoulder balanced very precariously. Are these then not the atributes upon which one should be judged?
If we continue to take the "guilty until proven innocent" mentality (or if you like the "you must prove the stereotype false" mentality) then we are no better than teenage punks that fight other teenage punks simply because they are from another school (although that was kinda fun).
it's time we all grow up and realise that people are people no matter where they are from.
there it is. I've had my say. now let loose boys. I never would have started this thread if i was too much of a coward to listen to the replies...or say my say.
-ryan (a union firefighter who, as such, wears a distinctly hard hat, and has an american flag in the driveway)
P.S. SWMBO is standing behind me saying "well i think Bush has made us all out to be a bunch of jerks." once again she has proved herself to be the succinct one in the family. ;)
Yup. Sad but true.Quote:
well i think Bush has made us all out to be a bunch of jerks.
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Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
An honorary Australian? I am the one who would be very much honored! Thanks for the sentiments, and discussion. :)
-Ryan
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Originally Posted by ryanarcher
Welcome mate, but now I can't call you a seppo anymore. :D :D :D
Peter.
Mick,Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman Mick
I'll second that we make Ryan an hononary Aussie, his attitude and thinking qualifies him.
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Originally Posted by Sturdee
Yeah we can. :D :p :p
Dan
Ryan's a Seppo.
Yeh you were right Dan.
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Originally Posted by Zed
zed,
if you ever make it over, you've got a place to stay and I'll take you to Canyonlands NP. 100 times more spectacular than the grand canyon.
-Ryan
no problemo. i'll let you know if and when.
So Zed.
It looks like we are keeping this one?? :rolleyes: :D
Al :cool:
Yeah, almost forgot.
Is this the bit where we all hold hands and sing that freekin stupid song??
Al :p
Zed hardly needs an excuse.Quote:
Is this the bit where we all hold hands and sing that freekin stupid song??
Al
Now there's the rub...patriotism is something you blokes are much better at than us, but in your driveway is exactly the right place to be flying your flag, not in someone elses country, or on every corner of one's personal website!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanarcher
So another tick to you!
No offence to you Ryan, but the flagwaving can get a bit over the top... it's one of those consenting adults in private things!!
Cheers,
P
:D :D :D
Mamma Mia, here I go again, my my how could I resist ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
Wattsa madder you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ozwinner
Gotta no respect?
Why you looka so sad
It'sa not so bad
It's a nica place
Ah ...
The best part of bulletin boards is that you can't see who you are replying to.
You don't know what colour the person is. Their religious or political pursuasion doesn' matter a damn.
I hope this one stays that way and unless they get radical all are welcome here.
I had a friend once that was blind and he said the best part of being blind was that all people were only voices and he could treat all equally unless someone insulted him.
As in all nationalities there are some right mongrels. Black, yellow, green or purple.
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Originally Posted by bitingmidge
Totally understandable :cool:
-ryan
S'all right. I gave him one from you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bitingmidge
I love americans
You just have to take the p*ss out of them and then there great. When I was in East Timor I worked with a few and once they understood our humour (humor) life was great.
We had a big old ex army ex cop give a pre deployment talk and introduced himself by saying "My name is CARPENTER" to which an aussie said "CARPENTER, is that it" and he said 'Yes" and the aussie replied "what like SHER" with room full of aussies rolling on the ground.
later I was talking on the radio to a new yorker about 4 hrs drive away at HQ and said to him
" we are coming down in the arvo in the rover and will need to swap it for the ute so we can pick up the fridge and can you get a tarp to cover it with' I tried explaining it to him three times and then he said "okay see you then"
Drove the 4 hrs and walked into his office and he said "what are you doing here?"
I said"I told you on the radio"
He said" Man I tried to work out what you said but god damn I dont understand a word you blokes say so I just say "yes"
God I love yanks! (except the loonies in power)
cheers
dazzller
Isn't he Austrian? :rolleyes: :p :p :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Dan
Why stop knowledge, you are only limiting yourself. Every person who contriutes to this forum increases the knowledge base of its members - remember - knowledge is power!
I'm afraid to say Ryan that it's too late now....... YOU ARE DOOMED!!
Somewhere along the family line you had an Aussie in the mix ;)
You seem to be abnormal as the rest of us!! :D
Aussies love to take the urine out of anybody who is around & if there is nobody else around, we hook in on ourselves! :D
We love to take the pis* & pick handles out of EVERYONE & most nationalities (a) don't like it at all, &/or (b) become agressive/agitated. If the recipient doesn't take too much offence & returns in kind, respect is generated & the person is accepted.
This Aussie behaviour has been ingrained into the Aussie psyche since the birth of our nation.
Aussies HATE any class society (courtesy of a penal history & England) We tend to give someone some stick to see how they react! ;)
Australia is one of the most multi-cultural societies around (21million & 97% are of imported origin) & we like to get on with everybody (it makes life a lot easier) We tend not to take ourselves or life too seriously. We are just testing to see what sort of reaction we'll get. Other nationalities have misread this as a less intelligent/educated culture usually to their detriment but from the reaction an Aussie will form an opinion. :rolleyes:
If someone has you called a 'mate' you should concider it as having a brother & if you are refered to as a 'best mate' it's as if you have the same feelings as a twin. "Mateship" has a VERY sepcial meaning in Australia which goes back to diggers in W.W.I
So ends my view of basic Aussie psychology 101
Or I've got me head up me ar*e & I'll soon be told :D ;)
I KNEW THAT...... I think....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kris.Parker1
I din't vote, I would have picked No 2 but it didn't have a Colon (think about it....) :rolleyes:
that's ok Cliff Major Panic's done that for you, in his own words .....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
"head up me ar*e & I'll soon be told" so you can see he is personally studying his own colon. :D :D :D
Thanks Major! However, I just took a p1ss so you'll have to wait a couple of hours before you take some more out. ;)
Steadfast,
-Ryan