Looking good Spring:2tsup:..can't wait to see where you take it..
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Looking good Spring:2tsup:..can't wait to see where you take it..
Love it! :2tsup:
Thanks tl & Undy :) barb wiring is nearly done now with just a few more holes to plug :rolleyes: I can hardly lift it in and out of the shed to work on it now but it's strong as with most of the barb running full length it could handle being suspended I suppose which is probably the most practical way of displaying it and keeping it out of kiddies way :-
IYI the threadings done using all but one of Toggys' rolls of barbed wire :2tsup: I can hardly move it :- I'd like to see how some enameled copper flowers would go but it seems beyond getting done at the moment partly because I think I need a tear dropped anvil to shape the petals :? like I know where one is :rolleyes: Maybe a rock would do?
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Craig,Quote:
Originally Posted by springwater
Would this help to make your petals, if so you can borrow it any time.
Peter.
G'day Pete thanks for the thought, that'd be great for larger flower petals but I'm wanting to make something more like rosebudst where the petals are still wrapped around each other or just unfurling. I'm not sure I'm capable of doing it though as my fingers aren't as good as they used to be especially now after all the wire work they're creeking a bit. I wonder if lead sheet might be better to form? Or cast them?? I think I'll be needing about 80 or so and I'd like to colour them about fire engine red and/or cream, but other things are getting in the way at the mo.
Hoping you're getting along well Pete! Let me know if you need an extra hand or two albeit creeky ones :U
My wife has a gold rose that was an actual rose that was then dipped in molten gold. I know that gold melts at relatively low temps, and higher temp may not work. Lead might work though. This would only work if you wanted them the same size as a real one though.
G'day Pete, woah, you mean the molten gold formed around the rose and the rose stood up to it :? What a treasure that'd be! Pretty sure I wouldn't be able to afford that way :p anyway gold would've suited :- I've thought of dipping a rose in resin but it'd look like a rose dipped in resin :rolleyes: I'd like the surface to look like one of those old knocked about model toy cars (I'm thinking e-type Jag), I think they were cast lead, then enameled or those old enameled tin kitchen bowls showing their age.
Springwater, you may be able to use that as a last resort:rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
Have you considered using aluminium from drink cans? Easy to fashion, readily available, glue them together and once they have a bit of shape would increase in strength. Treat them with "Penetrol" and then spray paint. If using a spray can, give a very light spray first from a distance until a little paint has built up as the propellant reacts with the Penetrol and blisters. No problems if using a spray gun.
When you first asked for the rusted barbed wire I wondered where you were going with it, but it has developed into an intriguing project.
Regards
Paul
No I hadn't thought of aluminium from drink cans Bushy, thanks. Maybe because of an aversion to the stuff which developed as a nipper at the cricket looking down the vein that runs down my thumb opened by a slash while attempting to make a half sized can from a full sized one, it was all the rage then, lost a bit of blood by the time I made it back to the old man.
Anyway, it wouldn't take long to give it a go I suppose although I'm having trouble imagining forming the bud shape even with thin sheets of metal without a male/female die/stamp kind of thingy which would be expensive and only produce a repetitive shape anyway. I dunno, getting something to look like a bud is one thing, then there's the stalk and connecting to it, let alone the leaves and the coating... arh, might sleep on it for now.
copper sheet (heated and allowed to cool slowly) is as soft as..and really easy to form over a hardwood form or hammered into a wood hollow..Quote:
Originally Posted by springwater
also..heated copper quenched in... umm..something ..(hot water or oil ..I can't recall) makes it go bright red..
Piece is looking great BTW :2tsup:
Thanks Undyman! It's neck and neck between copper and lead in the malleable stakes at the mo. I'm still not sure flower buds are the way to go, it sort of just came into my head and I'm too tired to know if that's the way it should go and I'm concerned that if I move on with something else beckoning dust'll settle on the canoe...Que Sera, Sera :)
I made a start on the metal roses after finding some old ice cream and Kero tins that were already rusting out. Forgot to take a pic of them before I attacked them with the good old Gilbow tin snips but the Kero tin had a really nice turned handle that'll come in handy one day. I'm not sure of the other flavours but one tin still had a faded Honey Butternut sticker on it.
I couldn't get the sahpe of a rose bud I wanted as I couldn't bend or beat the metal both breadth and height wise but I did as well as I could hammering it cold over a Iron Bark nob anvil I made up, it's just not as rose buddy as I'd have liked it. It takes eight layers of four petals to make one and until I work out how to attach the stem I'll leave off making the centre.
I bought some red spray enamel paint which is intended for touch ups on car engine motors that'll do for a bit of colour, then I leave them out in the elements to rust up awhile through winter. They may look best as a bouquet rather than dotted around the canoe, have to wait and see.
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Love it too.:2tsup::U
Excellent
Regards
Paul
Thanks tl and Bushy, got a bit more done today which included a fight with the Honey Butterscotch icecream residue gunk coating, had to resort to 120 gsm emery paper to remove most of it :oo: The things ya gotta do :rolleyes: :U
Looking good Craig. :2tsup:
Peter.
Thanks Peter, that shoe last you offered prolly would have come in handy after all but I adapted to beating the tin with a 8oz ball peen over a sledge hammer head and an iron bark anvil thingy I made up :-
Still available if you need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by springwater
Peter.
Thanks Peter, I think I've just about got it licked except for the stem connection which I might even have to resort to making with wood and real rose thorns, dunno, thinking, thinking :rolleyes::)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sturdee
Just warm enough to give the petal layers a spray of red which will be mostly obliterated later, just need a hint of red, the rest will be left to rust. After a raid on the better half’s craft stash, the dots are to keep the paint away from a possible glue area as I may have to glue the pieces together depending on the stem connection method, if I ever come up with one :-:)
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Ooooooh! Red. :U
yep, given half a chance and she would've had a go eating one too :oo:Quote:
Originally Posted by tea lady
[QUOTE=springwater;1491853]yep, given half a chance and she would've had a go eating one too :oo:[/QUOTEAddad patina? :D
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Originally Posted by springwater
:yuk: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by springwater
Looking good Springy. I'm constantly amazed at the amount of work you put into a piece. No wonder your hands are getting sore.
Thanks Archer. The labels had all but worn off, the tin was mostly rusty but under the gray honey butterscotch gunk the tin remained shiny, I think I'm on to something :D My hands have healed well now and feel strong as, tell ya though, weaving the barbed wire was murder :oo:Quote:
Originally Posted by NCArcher
[quote=tea lady;1491877]I tell you what, I've learnt the hard way, she likes to help, which is good, she's keen :rolleyes: she's still developing her patinaring methods, although she's mastered the slobbered freyed look :- so I've placed a washing basin filled with offcuts on her level so she can patina away to her hearts content, down side is I've lost a lot of bench top space :doh::UQuote:
Originally Posted by springwater
[quote=springwater;1492269]Was she trying to help with the butterscotch removal? :think:Quote:
Originally Posted by tea lady
After toing and froing, bit the bullet and roughed out some stems from tea tree roots 'cause I need to keep things going. They'll be drilled and cupped to seat the layed petal arrangement and hopefully accept a bolt and nut that'll be glued down the middle (ish) :oo:
Not that happy with the awkward petal connection solution :rolleyes: really and that I'm thinking of seating some rose thorns into the stem :- but we're getting somewhere, I'm sure :)
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Wow Springy, I turn my back for a minute (well a few months) and look at what you've done!! Fantastic, you're work is just getting richer and deeper, great stuff:2tsup::U
Nothing compared to what's going to come out of your new abode I bet, loved the last one but great to see you with more room about onya :2tsup:
Thanks Springy but I think you have far more imagination than I have. I'll just have to put in the practice. Anyway, yours looks a treat:2tsup:
Just a bit of oh so little time to start shaping up the all important outer petals today. I used a modified head of an eight inch spike and then a rounded over head of a six inch nail to bowl them out a bit. Still can't really get the shape right though. I spray painted the inner petals which work better as a butterfly shape wrapped around another. Still not sure of the stem connection which I'm slowly backing myself into a corner over, she'll be right :rolleyes: :U
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One at trial fit-up stage without its centre whoa
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Looks good Craig.
Peter.
:2tsup:looks great!
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Originally Posted by Sturdee
Thanks :) I'm really itching to get 'em done at last, it's starting to drag on :-Quote:
Originally Posted by tea lady
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Nearly ready to get a bit rusty. If anyone's got a dozen tin/brass bells about 12mm ish in diameter lying around not doing anything, would you let me know? I'm sure I've seen the ones I want in the past but I've looked from pet shops to ebay without seeing them, except for some in China :C
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Originally Posted by springwater
Nah, I think you mean ones like these:Quote:
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I thought of using an up-turned bell to jam onto the stem:
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I need, give or take, 12mm diameter bells like these to do it:
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Preferably plain surface but I could possibly grind off any eyelets or embelishments.